What would Mahomes, a guy making $40 million/year, gain from point shaving? Who could afford to pay him and apparently Chris Jones ($20 million/year) enough to make it worth their while? What's the amount of money look like? You really think these two players who are near the highest paid at their position would risk all credibility and be banned form the NFL for money when they already have more than they could ever spend?

Enjoy your scripted super bowl, third time's the charm:thumb:

BINGO! LA was always the play this year. We dodged a bullet. Don't want any part of that upcoming whack job. The same ref from the first Cincinnati game is going to be there. No thanks

You didn't answer the question. Follow up question...Is this all NFL players in on "the fix" or just Mahomes and Chris Jones?

I don't have to explain shit, enjoy your sports entertainment industry, ala the WWE

I don't know about point shaving...they do what the NFL tells them to do.

I don't see any situation where 'someone paid off the refs' or 'the players'were paid off by the mob or whatever.

It's way too farfetched.

I don't know about any other games, but this one wasn't rigged. First, there's no percentage in Mahomes skimming points/throwing games/whatever. Second, if it was real, there'd be hundreds if not thousands in on it. Third, you'd never keep it that quiet with that may people in the know. And finally, fourth, to pull all of this off, you're essentially asking all of these people to be perfect 24-hours-a-day actors. That includes Gooddell, Andy Reid, Brett Veach, Mahomes, Clark Hunt, probably the owner of CIN and their management office, and a pile of other people on top of that. The chances of all of that? Slim and none.

I don't know, I'd rather the chiefs have made the super bowl tbh.

This is the voice of reason. All this shows how it is impossible for there to be league wide fixes going on involving players/coaches/front offices.

Responses like this is precisely why the charade continues.

I guess the hardest thing to accept about the NFL being fixed is why would some owners/teams agree to be stooges for decades? I suppose if the money is that good but Mark Davis, for example, is a fan in the owner chair. The money is irrelevant to him. He wants to win. And if it was fixed for decades, Al Davis would have leaked that faster than the Raodrunner.

The last 2 Chiefs playoff games looked staged as **** to be honest. Friday night lights level bullshit

How do you figure with the game yesterday?

KC only had 2 penalties against them... just 2 and the refs easily missed what most would say was an easy facemask penalty on one of those last drives.

Bengals only had 4 penalties against them.

Six total penalties, so they were letting them play. Not suggesting that calls were not missed, I'm sure they were on both sides - same as most weeks. But, what was possibly scripted yesterday with so few penalties?

Sounds to me like you're one of those that just won't accept a loss. I mean, have you ever walked away from a Chiefs' win saying "wow, the refs really screwed the other team in our favor" or are all wins by KC just flat out 100% legit?

Sorry I was there with a view of everything. Nothing else explains Mahomes play in the wind half other than Johnny football taking over at QB.

Like most, I don't know how you explain the 2H... although according to the stats they showed, it was similar to what KC did in the 2H a few weeks ago.

I thought Patrick might have had his bell rung quite honestly, he just didn't look right with some of those passes and the way he was running around.

Bengals went from zone to man drop 8 in the second half and the offense couldn't adjust.

They could have, but it would have required running the ball. A concept that evidently Andy couldn't grasp. Very strange 2nd half. It reminded me a lot of the Colts game several years ago. A good first half, then the ugliest thing I have seen in years 2nd half.

I can see the Bengals as the perfect flawed patsy for a home Super Bowl win.

The coaching staff is only capable of making adjustments at half time. They don’t make adjustments during the game. Yesterday they adjusted themselves at half to play themselves out of the playoffs.

I'd say, Mahomes just dancing around, avoiding sacks to buy time and lose yards was really weird. Not even throwing the ball away...but running INTO sacks.

Andy Reid, refusing to run at those COVER 8 defenses...

Yeah, at first I thought they were trying to kill clock with the idea they could score at will and not give CIN much time on the clock to score.

Covid disappears and the overtime rules are now looking right all along. This is not a bad game ya got here

They are content with a seat at the table.

Know many millionaires/billionaires that are just content?

They don’t have a choice in this case. You follow the good ol boy rules if you want to be an owner in the NFL. That’s why they only let certain people in.

Well......in the SB, the Kittle push off was weak, we hit Jimmy g out of bounds late in the game and also went helmet to helmet late. Also, I still can't tell if Williams got in or not. Those types of things went against us in the past when we didn't have a feel good story or narrative behind us as (Big Red finally gets one) well as a marketable QB. Just keepin it real......Now they want to spread it around. No dynasties allowed unless.......you know where I could go with that...

DING DING DING.....WINNA!!!!!


All of the marquee QBs out of the way except the forced narrative of Joe Cool......Easy chip for LA.

So can we expect the Bengals owner to be forced to sell his franchise after the season? Can't imagine the powers at be would let a team like the Bengals take money out of their pockets.

The have Joe Burrow now in case you didn’t notice.

And? The Packers have had Aaron Rodgers for over a decade. The hierarchy apparently thinks Jimmy G is better for the league, right?

They don’t like Rodgers, heck his own family hates him.

Guess they should stop giving him MVPs then.

That’s nothing, championships are what matter and he doesn’t get to participate anymore.

I was 50/50 on this forever but it's absolutely not a coincidence that is 50+ years a home team had never made the SB when it was in their stadium...

Covid happens and magically 2 years in a row.

Claiming the NFL is rigged is for losers. Pathetic.

You just like to disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

The NFL loves you.

Also history should teach you if anything has as much money rolling through it as the NFL does...there's tons of shady shit.

I’m sure Mahomes went from dropping dimes to running around like a chicken with wide open receivers by chance, that was totally legit.

The money soon to roll in. Means no tax payers should be on the hook for a stadium(Ha Ha) Hell they got the know how to have a portable SB dome.

Ever play a sport and **** up as much as he ****ed up to end the first half? Cant stop thinking about that **** up and you just start doubling down.

If you think Mahomes took a dive you are dumb as ****.

That looked incredibly rigged. Sad to know Mahomes is apparently in on it too.

Taxpayers paying for stadiumd is another great NFL scam.

Complaining about things being rigged after having your ass handed to you. It's the American way, apparently.

Or we can believe that after basically 7 quarters of perfect football he was worse than Matt Cassel.

Moron Chief fans are calling in to Jim Rome and saying its fixed lol.

Is it so hard to believe after the year he just had when he went on a 5 or so game stretch where he looked exactly how he looked in the 2nd half?

It's one thing to be bad...it's another to look like you aren't even capable of playing. That was truly one of the worst displays of QBing I've seen.

Yes, it's much more believable that Mahomes was involved in intentionally losing a game. LMAO

If you really believe that, you should hate Mahomes forever. I would.

Entitledment town is a transient thing

Is it hard for you to be a fan of a team while at the same time "knowing" your teams QB just Shoeless Joe'd that game?

Rigged or not, the Rams playing in LA SB and *wining* is the best thing that could have happened for the NFL and LA market right now. Like it needed to happen for the move back to LA to succeed and well would you look at that.

Just saying if every things legit and it may be it sure worked out the way the league hoped it would. The Rams have a stacked roster so its entirely plausible.

As far as the Chiefs go. Both the Bills and Bengals endings had a weird feel to them.

No because I'm not invested like that anymore.

It's "sports entertainment "

Being totally upset about this is on the same level as being mad the Undertaker lost.

Just content to earn hundreds of millions of dollars per year?

Most all of them.

That WASP play?

The iconic one?

Watch the gigantic uncalled hold from our LT...

Rigged -(me)- not kosher

For most of those guys even the low end of NFL money is life changing.

Hey, the league rigged it for the Rams to go to the SB when shitheap Goff was their QB.

As far as that Bills game...I don't think the Chiefs were supposed to win that game at all.

That's why Reid & Co were told to stand down against Cincy.

Mahomes is already statistically one of the best to ever play, and he's only in his 4th year as a starter.

They wanted Joe Burrow vs Josh Allen in the AFC Championship Game, I'm almost sure of it...

Rams got to go right after the move and do the job for Brady...

Now with the stadium done they get to win.

If I thought for even one second that Mahomes threw this game, I would completely divest myself from the Chiefs and the NFL in general

To even suggest he would do that is melting my brain, wow

Also everyone threw a fit about OT rules, Chiefs win the toss again and lose...with Pat throwing a pick 13 seconds in..


That shit just writes itself.

It's why the owners of the Lions don't care and have never cared. The Bidwells have never cared. The owners of the Jets don't even care about pretending to appear to care. Denver is an absolute laughingstock.

They're perennial losers, every single year...and their owners rake in hundreds of millions in revenue, every single year.

Just for being the Barry Horowitz's of the NFL.

He even threw the pass directly to the defender and not his receiver! Totally scripted.

How THE **** does he not just throw those balls out of bounds instead of taking those sacks.

****, a couple of them looked like he was trying to burn clock...he avoided the rush, got free, STILL Didn't throw the ball away, and took sacks.

It sure looked like he was told to stand down.

Couple that with the fact that Reid just plain refused to run the ball against 3 man fronts when we were getting 6 yards a pop...what does that say to YOU!?

21-3 lead, 3 man fronts...and you abandon the run!?

If we are accusing Reid & Mahomes of tanking against Cincy, you would think the same logic applies to Buffalo’s defense with 13 seconds. Both were chokejobs.

Isn't that the pass that receiver volleyed directly into the defenders arms?

Possibly.

Either that, or Buffalo was supposed to win in regulation.

Either one.

"Life changing" money for descendants of the Fords and Firestone fortunes and the Johnson & Johnson fortunes.

If you think Buffalo was supposed to win, why did Mahomes & Reid go against the script? It would not have taken much for them to give that one away. One bad play would have done it.

I don't think anyone is saying the Chiefs haven't benefitted also.

Like a few others here, I'm starting to think he got his noggin smacked in a way that wasn't obvious, and quite possibly played the rest of the game concussed

Personally I don't think they were supposed to lose to Buffalo. This whole post season has been about "most exciting playoffs ever" after everyone bitched about adding teams.

They got 2 new rivals for Mahomes and have made Cincy and Buffalo markets that matter again..

All while giving the Rams the bowl they need for LA.

JFC

LMAO

hey guys it's really REALLY hard to win a super bowl, just ask Tom Brady

Ya. I'm not invested in the WWE because its all fake. So I don't watch it. I couldn't name a single ****ing wrestler outside of guys like Sting and Undertaker and any other major name in the business who was in the video game I played on Nintendo or w/e it was in the 90s. I for damn sure dont talk about how not invested I am in that sport or how fake and scripted it is on a message board for Undertaker fans.

So was this the only game Mahomes tanked or have there been others?

The NFL trusts guys with a 7 wonderlic score to keep the biggest cheating scandal in the world quiet, year after year?