Are you convinced Zac Taylor is actually good?

I'm not sure I am. I haven't seen anything special out of that offense other than 'throw the ball to Chase really fast and get my quarterback killed'.

I mean Martz did that to Bulger and he lasted about 3 years. Taylor keeps sending Burrow out there with empty sets to get blasted and mostly in the name of odd little WR screens and shot plays.

Do you REALLY need 5 guys in the pattern for those?

Maybe the replacement won't be Reid, no. Probably, in fact. But there's no reason to believe Reid's replacement can't be as good as Zac Taylor.

Be kind of like the KC Fans who went to Indy under Alex Smith for the epic meltdown loss to Luck. And they got stuck in a blizzard trying to drive home the next day. I think IIRC Stevie Ray got caught up in that shit. I'd rather win. It's so much better than losing. And if we take anything from this, we better remember on Sunday how fortunate we were to move on, and not blow it against the Bengals. Keep the focus, keep crushing opponent's souls.

Reid's not leaving.

I think he's a guy that dies at his desk someday. He barely has a life outside of football right now and hasn't for 20 years. This is what he loves doing - what's he going to do, retire to go fishing?

IMO, he sees this less as being a head coach and more as being a teacher. And he'll be happy to teach for as long as someone's asking him to do it.

Unless he has some catastrophic health issue or something like that knee/hip issue he's had becomes so degenerative that he ends up largely immobile, I don't think he's going anywhere for Mahomes career.

The Chiefs would have young offensive minds lining up for a chance to coach Mahomes.

Assuming Veach is part of that decision making process, I have all the faith in the world that we will replace Reid with an adequate HC whenever that day comes.

Now I will say this - being the guy that replaces Reid is going to be thankless as hell.

I mean would you REALLY want to follow that up? Not just with the fans, but with PM.

It's gonna be awfully tough.

No doubt those are some huge shoes to fill, but by then, Mahomes will be like a coach on the field.

We’ll absolutely miss Reid to some degree no matter what though.

Mike ****ing McCarthy won a Super Bowl with Aaron ****ing Rodgers at QB.

With Mahomes, we'll be fine. All they need to do is find a coach that doesn't get in his way. There's plenty of those out there.

Ask Jim Caldwell how much fun it is coaching an established legend when his coach moves on.

Caldwell never got credit for a thing out there. Then he went to Detroit, proved he might actually BE a decent coach, still got shit-canned.

Hey, there's only 32 of those jobs so if offered, I'd take it. And yeah, the Chiefs will have plenty of options to choose from. But in a TON of ways an internal promotion makes sense. Man I hope we can hold onto Kafka. He just seems like a turnkey solution.

What would be awesome is if somehow McVay or Shanahan were available at the time.

Ideally we have that guy in the building already when the time comes, no doubt.

The solution is simple:

Let Andy Reid hand pick his successor and then have Mahomes put his rubber stamp on it.

I'm willing to trust both of them.

How fascinating would Shanahan be?

Take that running attack of his and throw in a generational talent under center. I mean it could be transcendent.

It could also be a complete disaster.

McVay is essentially the spiritual successor to Reid. But Shanahan would be something interesting. Not saying it'll work, even - just that I'd be damn intrigued by the idea.

The more important thing is probably going to be Veach's roster construction. Give Mahomes a solid OL and a solid defense. If he has those two things, I think he can win a lot of games no matter what. He's going to keep getting better too. He won't necessarily need Kelce/Tyreek.

Tom Brady won a Super Bowl last year with a stooge head coach because the roster around him was completely loaded. Four #1 quality receivers, a damn good OL, and a damn good defense (especially front 7).

In terms of Veach, you gotta like some of his recent draft picks like Humphrey/Smith on the OL, Nick Bolton at LB, and the Orlando Brown thing is looking pretty solid too. But he was also the guy who gave way too much money to guys like Frank Clark & Anthony Hitchens. Need to be as efficient as possible at finding high quality guys who don't cost a fortune.

I think it was SNR I was talking to about it a bit ago.

The Chiefs will never have this again - but as you've noted, we won't NEED this.

The Chiefs absolutely can (and should be expected to) get a couple of merely very good pass-catching options for Mahomes even after Kelce and Hill are gone. I mentioned having two McLaurin types.

I mean hell, why couldn't the Chiefs have what the Bengals have minus Chase? And would it even be that hard to pull off? Higgins, Boyd and Uzomah would likely be enough to keep Mahomes extremely dangerous, especially if you gave him a quality OL and a credible (ideally more consistent) defense.

There are just gonna be 3 or 4 ''eras' of Mahomes when all is said and done. This is likely to be the most memorable one because how it came about, what it is and wthe demons it exorcised - but the next will be successful as well.

The focus on the next wave of receivers for KC should be ball security. This year was evidence of how important it is to just catch the damn ball and don't fumble it. Way too many tip balls & fumbles this year, including from Tyreek & Kelce. Those two guys also had some bad drops in the Super Bowl loss. Find some guys who are extremely reliable at catching the ball and running good routes. If you can do that, you don't necessarily need them to be as explosive as Tyreek or Kelce.

Mahomes is going to continue getting better and better as a QB. He has shown some major growth the last couple months in terms of being a much more patient QB than the past. That's huge. I hope he continues to embrace this approach. Continue working on all the typical stuff (footwork, accuracy, decision-making, etc)...he will be friggin' unstoppable at age 30 no matter who is in the receiving group, as long as the dudes are running good routes and have good hands.

Damn. You make a strong case, but I still can't root against the Chiefs.

Pringle and Hardman are the real reason our offense is next level again. . defense cant ignore them anymore and just focus on Reek and kelce..Patrick has shown that he will throw to the open WR no matter what number is on the jersey

Perfectly fine with me if other teams feel those painful playoff losses instead of us. We have way more than our share of those.