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Mile High Mania 02-17-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16150043)
Chark or Gallup

Either of those two, especially Gallup would be scary.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16150045)
Personally, I think KC with Mahomes at QB is in a situation where they shouldn't need to throw money at the hot FA WR. Go find 1-2 of those 2nd tier guys that are ready to break loose. Aside from Kelce and Hill... they just need 1-2 other rising stars. No need to go get a Ridley or someone like that... and no, I'm not saying that as a fan that wants to see KC fail. Mahomes can make players great, so there shouldn't be a need to overpay at the WR position at this point with Kelce and Hill out there.

They need more than Robinson and Pringle. Mahomes made Pringle look as good as he can look. And it wasnt enough.

htismaqe 02-17-2022 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16150056)
They need more than Robinson and Pringle. Mahomes made Pringle look as good as he can look. And it wasnt enough.

To be fair, he said "rising stars". By definition, that's not Pringle.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16150059)
To be fair, he said "rising stars". By definition, that's not Pringle.

He rose from absolutely nothing, but is not a star. But also rising stars usually require draft capitol, or a tyreekesque situation.

edit: I'm kind of in the FA WR boat. A guy who knows how to get seperation in the league, will understand what Mahomes is asking him. And use Draft picks for pass rushers and the defensive build.

htismaqe 02-17-2022 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16150064)
He rose from absolutely nothing, but is not a star.

He's also almost 30 years old so he's no longer really rising.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16150067)
He's also almost 30 years old so he's no longer really rising.

Cant argue that.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 08:38 AM

I would argue that Pringle's peak is exactly why you throw money or resources at it. Everyone on the roster except possibly hardman and the kid we drafted last year are as good as they are going to get. And it was good enough to get to the afccg, and should have been superbowl good, but largely it wasnt dominant.

myselff77 02-17-2022 09:20 AM

I know he's old, but I'd check in on Julian Edelman and see if he has the itch to play again after being retired for a year.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by myselff77 (Post 16150149)
I know he's old, but I'd check in on Julian Edelman and see if he has the itch to play again after being retired for a year.

Please stop pining for old broke dicks. AJ Greene and edelman are done. One knows it and the other hasnt figured it out yet. Edleman would likely still be under contract with NE anyway.

Simply Red 02-17-2022 09:46 AM

easily Alan Jackson!

myselff77 02-17-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16150195)
Please stop pining for old broke dicks. AJ Greene and edelman are done. One knows it and the other hasnt figured it out yet. Edleman would likely still be under contract with NE anyway.

Gronk was under contract with NE as well before going to Tampa. I know you are right, but Edelman isn't afraid to go across the middle of the field and catch the ball. Chiefs need that skillset with the #2.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 16150196)
easily Alan Jackson!

You seem nice!

I didn't recognize your profile with the makeover.

Bowser 02-17-2022 10:09 AM

We haven't had a consistent legit weapon for at #2 WR since 2019. Anyone with any modicum of talent we put there that has the ability to actually produce will have me excited.

Whosurdaddy 02-17-2022 10:19 AM

Treylon Burks

BleedingRed 02-17-2022 10:19 AM

My List:
-Adams (He would be ****ing wild to have, dont think we can afford but my god...)
-Williams (He too would be amazing to have)
-JuJu (Get your value up, but would be great number 2)
-Gallup (Might be able to give him a decent contract and get real production out of 1,000+)

Urc Burry 02-17-2022 10:27 AM

Godwin
Dotson
Jameson
Robinson
Odell

In that order.. davante is literally a 0% chance of happening.

Mile High Mania 02-17-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Whosurdaddy (Post 16150244)

As a Hog fan... I'd hate to see that, but it would be a great spot for him.

Whosurdaddy 02-17-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16150261)
As a Hog fan... I'd hate to see that, but it would be a great spot for him.

These Warren WRs man...

Couch-Potato 02-17-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16149986)
Nobody is going to trade their best young players. It's not Madden 2022.

Both Thomas and Ridley are pushing their way out of their current teams, similar to Hopkins and Julio. It happens, I'm not suggesting is likely though.

duncan_idaho 02-17-2022 01:14 PM

Re: Ridley, for me it's all about what the trade package costs you. If you can land him for a conditional package that equates to a 2nd round pick, I think it's an intriguing move.

bobhill 02-17-2022 01:18 PM

DJ Chalky

FloridaMan88 02-17-2022 01:36 PM

Mike Williams opposite Tyreek Hill in this offense would be sick and it would make the Chargers worse as well.

But I’d be concerned with giving him big $$$, considering his injury history.

ForeverIowan 02-17-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Whosurdaddy (Post 16150244)

He would be absolutely perfect and cheap for the next 4-5 years. Ive noticed he has started to slide a tiny bit in some mocks for what reason I do not know. Seems to be going anywhere from 15ish to 25ish. Feel like Veach has ammuntion with some comp 3rd round picks if needed to go up and grab him.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16150608)
Re: Ridley, for me it's all about what the trade package costs you. If you can land him for a conditional package that equates to a 2nd round pick, I think it's an intriguing move.

It would have to be conditional. With some kind of clause that if he mentally cant make it here you get some back.

Chris Meck 02-17-2022 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16150608)
Re: Ridley, for me it's all about what the trade package costs you. If you can land him for a conditional package that equates to a 2nd round pick, I think it's an intriguing move.

make it a 3rd and I'm in.

Dunerdr 02-17-2022 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16150887)
make it a 3rd and I'm in.

I just dont see him going for a 3rd. Some team more desperate will probably give up more.

Bump 02-17-2022 03:23 PM

I wouldn't complain if they broke the bank for Adams or Godwin

I'd rather one of those nice WR's fall to us in the 1st though

actually scratch that, going all out for Adams would be pretty cool. Imagine having that big possession WR opposite Hill with Kelce in the middle. That's a trio that would win a Superbowl

Chief Roundup 02-17-2022 04:51 PM

I would think a good combo would be to resign Pringle and bring in Mike Williams from the Chargers.

Rasputin 02-17-2022 05:04 PM

I can see getting another guy but I can also see Mecole ****ing Hardman securing the job for himself.

Going in fourth year he is confident and you can't count out his speed or play making abilities. Maybe he will still be a gadget guy but he seemed hungry during the AFCCG to get the ball.


I know we have a bunch of haters here so my opinion may not be popular but the kid can play at a higher level and same with CEH. Let the doubters doubt. I think they will be much apart of big plays 2022 season.

Rausch 02-17-2022 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16151152)
I would think a good combo would be to resign Pringle and bring in Mike Williams from the Chargers.

Sounds good. It's not like Pringle will be expensive and he's got some to add after the catch.

KChiefs1 02-17-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16148680)
I think the following options are being overlooked:


AJ Green: He's the same age as Kelce at 33, is 6'4 207 lbs, and put up 54/848/3/15.7 in his first year with a new team = much better than Julio Jones! 15.7 per catch!?!


Cordarrelle Patterson: 11 TDs and 1,150+ yards as a dynamic WR/HB + KR/PR combo player. Imagine what Reid could do with this guy in our playbook.


Michael Thomas: Yeah, yeah, the Saints say they're not trading him, but they will. They have no cap room, he hates them, they need picks and he needs to reinvigorate his career. If healthy, he could be the addition that puts us over the top. He costs just as much as Frank Clark. Boom or bust option!


Patterson is my choice & he can also play RB.


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cmh6476 02-17-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16148621)
Chark or Kirk.
Draft a WR in the 2nd-4th round range.

down with the first response

Bowser 02-17-2022 07:24 PM

I have a real crush on the thought of Allen Robinson playing here. Hopefully he's past his injury days? Michael Gallup is an intriguing thought as well, as is Mike Williams. I bet the Chargers would overpay for Williams to keep him from coming here, though.

- Allen Robinson
- DJ Chark
- Mike Williams
- Michael Gallup
- Christian Kirk

kccrow 02-17-2022 10:19 PM

Ideally, sign Chark and pick up another anywhere from the 2nd to 4th.

Couch-Potato 02-18-2022 07:18 AM

I've been watching Jameson Williams highlights and he'd be awesome for us in KC!

Gary Cooper 02-18-2022 12:04 PM

How much would Mike Williams cost? Guy catches every lob pass against us. I'd love for Mahomes to have a weapon like that in the red zone.

FloridaMan88 02-18-2022 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 16152313)
How much would Mike Williams cost? Guy catches every lob pass against us. I'd love for Mahomes to have a weapon like that in the red zone.

PFF is projecting that Mike Williams’ new contract will be worth 4 years, $68 million, with $38 million guaranteed.

Not sure how exactly they are calculating that projection.

ToxSocks 02-18-2022 02:49 PM

DEEEE JAAAAY

CHARK DO DO
DO DO DO DO DO

Willie Lanier 02-18-2022 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16148690)
I like Godwin, Ridley, Gallup, Robinson, Chark, JuJu In that order.

Don't draft one if you plan on relying at that position. They may work out, they may not. We need 100% certainty that we will get a WR #2.

Stop this Sammy Watkins, Pringle, Mecole Hardman madness.

GET A REAL ****ING PLAYER

Grow a REAL ****ING PENIS and then we can talk, Mecole has potential

Chris Meck 02-19-2022 08:02 AM

My choice is Juju for the following reasons:

-coming off an injury year, he will be cheaper
-that's the only signigicant injury he's had
-He's thrived as the #2 in the past
-he's a prototype 'X' receiver
-He's 26 years old, same as Mahomes.

Robinson is really good too, but is two years older and about as injury prone as Sammy Watkins.

YayMike 02-19-2022 08:11 AM

I like Robinson best, reminds me of the Sammy Watkins signing right after the last AFCCG loss. Bring in a true X to help Tyreek and Kelce. Chark is second choice, but either way it cannot be someone who isn’t a big name here.

Chris Meck 02-19-2022 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 16153383)
I like Robinson best, reminds me of the Sammy Watkins signing right after the last AFCCG loss. Bring in a true X to help Tyreek and Kelce. Chark is second choice, but either way it cannot be someone who isn’t a big name here.

If his injury history holds, he'll remind you of Sammy Watkins in a lot of ways.

Bowser 02-19-2022 09:28 AM

JuJu should have come here last season when we were chasing him, but now he can go pound sand in Pittsburgh for the rest of his playing days. That whole situation had a very Emmanuel Sanders feel to it when that prick signed with Denver after using us to drive his price up with the Donks.

RunKC 02-19-2022 09:36 AM

There’s going to be a talented WR that falls around our area in the draft. I’d use our comp 3rd to move up for 1 if someone like Olave was there.

Build DL in FA, draft a WR in rd 1 to start out behind Tyreek and Mecole and then draft DE and DN with your 2nd and 3rd

YayMike 02-19-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16153465)
There’s going to be a talented WR that falls around our area in the draft. I’d use our comp 3rd to move up for 1 if someone like Olave was there.

Build DL in FA, draft a WR in rd 1 to start out behind Tyreek and Mecole and then draft DE and DN with your 2nd and 3rd

WR take a year or two to work in this system. Need a body now. I wouldn’t mind pulling a trade of our first for a DE, like we did with Frank Clark, maybe we get an extra 3rd back. Our first plus player for DE. That way we get someone “with our first rounder” that contributes immediately. Maybe the kid from Jax?

Anyway: need to sign a WR, IMO.

RunKC 02-19-2022 10:10 AM

Not sure where this narrative about WR’s taking a year to learn comes from TBH.

DeSean Jackson had 912 yards as a rookie in this system. Jeremy Maclin had 4 TD’s and 750+ yards as a rookie and Tyreek Hill, even as more of a gadget, had 6 TD’s and just under 600 yards. Hell Mecole Hardman had 6 TD’s and nearly 600 yards as a rookie.

Developmental players like Demarcus Robinson and Cornell Powell take time. An 1st rd WR should be able to step right in and start off as the #3 WR that takes Hardman’s reps when he’s resting.

This team needs a youth injection at WR badly.

Chief Roundup 02-19-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16153501)
Not sure where this narrative about WR’s taking a year to learn comes from TBH.

It is historically common knowledge. There are exceptions to every norm. That does not change that there is a norm for everyone else.

Why Not? 02-19-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16151185)
I can see getting another guy but I can also see Mecole ****ing Hardman securing the job for himself.

Going in fourth year he is confident and you can't count out his speed or play making abilities. Maybe he will still be a gadget guy but he seemed hungry during the AFCCG to get the ball.


I know we have a bunch of haters here so my opinion may not be popular but the kid can play at a higher level and same with CEH. Let the doubters doubt. I think they will be much apart of big plays 2022 season.


All the more reason to get a guy. Imagine Hill, a guy (Chark, Robinson, JuJu, ETC), Kelce, and then Hardman on a slot corner or a LB? We could have a dude from the stands at RB at that point. With our O-line, "only" 30 points per game would feel disappointing.

RunKC 02-19-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16153525)
It is historically common knowledge. There are exceptions to every norm. That does not change that there is a norm for everyone else.

I just showed you that with Andy’s system historical it is not common knowledge.

Again this isn’t Chris Conley, Demarcus Robinson or Cornell Powell. I’m taking a first rd WR who can step in day 1

Chief Roundup 02-19-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16153694)
I just showed you that with Andy’s system historical it is not common knowledge.



Again this isn’t Chris Conley, Demarcus Robinson or Cornell Powell. I’m taking a first rd WR who can step in day 1

Well where we will be drafting they will barely be a 1st rounder and might not even be that quality as the quality of the players in each draft at various positions varies. Either way when you are taking the 4th or 5th best WR prospect into Andy's offense which is even harder than most other offenses it will be a challenge.

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Rausch 02-19-2022 01:40 PM

I think Cooper would be great in this offense but I doubt the money would work...

lcarus 02-19-2022 05:02 PM

I'm happy there seems to be quite a few options for us at WR this offseason. I'll be happy with just about any upgrade at this point. But man, what a bummer the Josh Gordon signing turned out to be. Hell, at least McCoy and Bell made a FEW plays. Gordon did jack squat. If he was even close to the receiver he was a few years ago, we're possibly Super Bowl champions right now. I hate to be that dramatic about it, but if you look at how close we were, it very well could be true.

Chris Meck 02-19-2022 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16153453)
JuJu should have come here last season when we were chasing him, but now he can go pound sand in Pittsburgh for the rest of his playing days. That whole situation had a very Emmanuel Sanders feel to it when that prick signed with Denver after using us to drive his price up with the Donks.

Show us on the doll where Juju hurt you.

LOL

poolboy 02-19-2022 05:24 PM

there is no number two receiver...its a mythical being thats never been seen since Johnny Morton

poolboy 02-19-2022 05:35 PM

Pringle had 5 tds this year while listed on the depth chart as second string behind Tyreek

YontsRBake 02-19-2022 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16153453)
JuJu should have come here last season when we were chasing him, but now he can go pound sand in Pittsburgh for the rest of his playing days. That whole situation had a very Emmanuel Sanders feel to it when that prick signed with Denver after using us to drive his price up with the Donks.

Definitely not comparable to Emmanuel Sanders. Sanders verbally agreed, then switched up, it was a close to unprecedented bitch move. Juju never gave us any actual reason to believe he was coming here last year, social media just ran with rumors.

YontsRBake 02-19-2022 06:30 PM

The money would work on one of the big WRs, it just would have to be a short-term deal. Matthieu and Clark gone frees up enough and I’m sure Mahomes would restructure again.

raybec 4 02-20-2022 01:37 PM

Antonio Brown!!! To the ship!

Rasputin 02-20-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 16154124)
The money would work on one of the big WRs, it just would have to be a short-term deal. Matthieu and Clark gone frees up enough and I’m sure Mahomes would restructure again.


Mahomes has no reason to restructure it's already a team friendly deal. He is getting paid under his value to this team.

Rasputin 02-20-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16153535)
All the more reason to get a guy. Imagine Hill, a guy (Chark, Robinson, JuJu, ETC), Kelce, and then Hardman on a slot corner or a LB? We could have a dude from the stands at RB at that point. With our O-line, "only" 30 points per game would feel disappointing.

I agree with this i just want Hardman to get more targets to prove himself and take off burning defenses, Tyreek can run beside him with deuces held up.

smithandrew051 02-20-2022 01:49 PM

I’d get Juju. He needs to repair his image, so I think he’ll sign a cheap 1-year deal.

Getting Juju allows you to grab another vet in addition. I think we also draft someone in the first 3 rounds.

Allow of that would create a significantly better WR room than last year.

raybec 4 02-20-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16154764)
Mahomes has no reason to restructure it's already a team friendly deal. He is getting paid under his value to this team.

They'll do a lot of restructuring on that deal. Converting money to bonuses and the like. He won't get any less money, they'll just move it around.


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