LMAO

Drake London it is!

What do we think of Leal?

He seems to be the hardest prospect to figure out. DT/DE tweener which scares the shit out of me after Speaks… he was a consensus top 5 guy preseason. And now is bottom 1st/2nd rounder

He’s very intriguing.

I think he can be your starter at SDE and slide inside next to Jones in sub packages.

Yup - definitely a fan.

Though I sometimes get nervous about guys who underwhelm in their platform season. Leal entered this year w/ a real shot at being a top 5 pick and some early predictions even had him at 1.1

Then he just kinda meandered through the season. It was a little like Clowney's platform season in that regard. Some of those guys just never live up to the billing.

But in the late 1st, it's easily a chance worth taking if he's available.

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There is a non-zero chance that all things equal I actually prefer John Metchie to Jameson Williams.

And there's a far greater chance that Metchie ends up in a sweet spot for us, either by sliding into the late 2nd or being within attainable trade-up range.

If I were the GM of the Chiefs, there'd be a significantly higher likelihood of Metchie being on this roster next season than Williams. I just cannot shake the Aiyuk comparisons anytime I see Metchie play. I really like the kid.

I don't want Williams.

The weird thing is that he made a huge jump in terms of production (8.5 sacks), but the expectations were extremely high, so it still felt like a disappointing season.

What do you think of this kid? His highlights look pretty impressive. Still there for our 2nd, 3rd or is that a stupid idea?

Bijan Robinson Texas A and M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WW7ZHnDSTc

I think he'll be playing on Saturdays again in 2022.

Worst kept secret in the draft lol

:thumb: Figures, since he might be the type to fall to later rounds.

I would love to see us draft a stud WR and RB combo to take the Chiefs Offense to the next level.

Make as much noise as possible about the possibility of it happening.

Then let someone else pick him ahead of us so Karlaftis, Leal, Johnson, Thomas or Walker slide.

Man this is a deep DL class. More and more I want to see 2 taken in the first two rounds. And then a DT with one of the thirds. If 3 of our first 4 picks go to the DL, we’ll get value at all 3 and cover significant need, IMO.

I’ve been running a lot of mocks where I can grab a DE in the first and third with a DT in the 2nd.

Really like that kid but am not sure his speed is up to par for our offense.

He looks far faster than Robinson's 4.6 ass.

Phew:

1st: Cameron Thomas
2nd: Arnold Ebiketie
3rd: John Metchie
3rd(comp): Bernhard Raimann
4th: Yusef Corker


I didn't even do the rest of the draft because I needed a FAP break.

He's the kind of physical receiver who can work over the middle and make YAC yards on the other side of Hill and Kelce that made us awfully difficult to deal with when Watkins was healthy.

Sammy was effectively a RB when he got the ball in his hands in space. Metchie isn't quite that guy, but he'll break a tackle and go if you give him the chance.

An X-Y-Z of Metchie, Hardman, Hill w/ Kelce at TE?

Good lord. You have 2 burners, the most difficult matchup in football at TE and then Metchie as a glue guy who can just keep everyone honest. You can't sell out on that drag route from Harman or double down on Kelce or go into a bombshell on Hill when you've got Metchie who, with a step in the open, will pick up 15 yards as easy as breathing.

Next time around: Leal, Ebiketie, Sam Williams, Romeo Doubs, Brandon Smith (athletic LB)

Man, there's a way for this draft to just be an absolute monster for KC. It's just perfect in how it's constructed for us.

Go sign Marcus Williams at S, re-sign Ingram, retain Ward, sign someone like Cedrick Wilson to replace Robinson. None of that is unreasonable. Meanwhile you've just LOADED that DL with young talent that can all move around the line and make things friggen miserable for opposing DCs.

The more I think about it, the more i land on Jermaine Johnson and Travon Walker as the "GUYS" I want most.

DJ, that draft with landing Metchie in the 3rd is stellar. And I think, very possible.

I've been working different trade scenarios like trading up into the 20s to get Walker or Leal and trade into the top of the second for an Ebeketie or Mafe. Or picking at 30 and trading back into the top of the second for another DLIf we want to attack overhauling the DL like we did the OL last year I think this is the way you might do it

I’m starting to think we can just as easily stay at 30 and take Boye Mafe.

That guy is going to light the combine up this week and solidify himself as a late 1st to early 2nd round pick.

Unless they do absolutely nothing at S in FA….there’s almost guaranteed to be a good DE at 30 for us to take.

I might swap out Raimann for a CB but I’d easily take your draft.

Under that scenario you bring Ward back at nearly any cost because you don’t have to put any cap at DL to speak of.

I just can’t see myself passing on Raimann in the late 3rd. Just too much value there.

Walker went two picks ahead of Thomas. Put Walker in that spot and it’s a damn near perfect draft.

Makes sense. I’d try and trade up for a CB then around the 5th round.

Do we have a shot at this Beast?

Godzilla!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm-6WWgTw6Q

So I think we're gonna need a REALLY good fake. And probably of something worse than a bong and a scuba mask.

Anybody got a clown suit and access to recently deceased children?

I REALLY want to draft this guy...

Let it go, man. He’s gone.

True.

We could have ACTUAL photos involving clown suits and deceased children and Belichick would still take him ahead of us...

WR
Chris Olave
Treylon Burks
Jahan Dotson

DL
David Ojabo
Cameron Thomas
Devonte Wyatt
Arnold Ebiketie
Boye Mafe

S
Dax Hill
Nick Cross
Jalen Pitre

Being realistic with where we are picking, if even one of these guys ends up being a Chief I'd be very happy

I really like David Ojabo's tape. He would be our Frank Clark replacement. What are the odds of him falling to 30?

Slim to none.

Can't see him getting past Philly at the very latest. There's an okay chance he goes top 10.

This is about the fifth time I've typed the name Hassan Haskins on this board today. I want him in this offense. I've seen him mocked in the sixth or seventh round, but I wouldn't be pissed if dropped our fourth rounder on him just to make sure we get him.

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As for the defense, I like what I've seen out of Arnold Ebiketie. He has good speed and explosion around the corner, and is tenacious as hell. He could be there at 30, and they should jump on it.

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Yep, only chance is if people are wary of his tape against the run - what there is. But can't see people looking for a DE will care when the pass-rush qualities are that good.

To be honest most of the mocks I'm running now I'm seeing a lot of DE prospects I'm fairly unconvinced by. The ones I liked at 30 all seem to be gone.

Sam Williams, IMO he could be a Simeon Rice clone if he develops, but I'd be ok if Boye Mafe is part of the Chiefs draft haul

You are dreaming.


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Jameson Williams and Jahan Dotson.

My new answer is Calvin Austin III

Rachaad White or Pierre Strong. Gimme one of those.


Alec Pierce or Christian Watson. Gimme one of those.

And we'll be set on offense.

J Williams

1st - Treylon Burks
Mid - Troy Andersen
Late - Danny Gray

It's more about who I don't want.

I really hope they don't do something stupid like trade up and then draft Williams.

This is the correct answer. Over the years Bama WR’s have either been to tiny (Waddle, Ruggs, Smith) or too slow (Ridley, Cooper, Jeudy) to be elite prospects.

Jameson is a little underweight but has the frame to put on muscle. He’s an excellent route runner with elite caliber speed. He probably would have ran in the low 4.3’s if he was able.

The offense would be completely fine with him relacing Tyreek. That’s how good he is

I don’t see how anyone can watch those highlights and think that someone like Dotson could be as close to as good as jameson Williams in this offense. Jameson is on another level and those highlights are against Georgia, lsu and other good competition. He almost had 1600 yards in the sec.

Show me a timeline where Jameson plays in the season opener and I'm good with it.

If he can't suit up for game 1, don't want him. Simple as that.

Once they moved Tyreek, I think Williams comes to the table. You may not necessarily be playing for 2022 with him, but it's the long game.

I don't like it but whatever.

If I'm trading up for one, it's the kid from OSU.

All about the medical for me. If our doctors give the thumbs up and we take him, great! If they determine his knees and frame are going to be an issue in his career, then I’ll be okay passing on him, too.

Olave or Wilson?

Wilson.

The big problem with Williams, for me, is that we're likely going to have to trade up to get him.

It's one thing to take a first rounder that might not be able to play right away. It's another thing entirely to trade premium picks to get that guy.

I'm just not a fan of that plan at all.

If they take him, fine. But I sure hope they don't unless he falls to 29.

If Wilson gets to 10 or so, I'd be calling around. He's gonna be a good one.

Why? You don’t want to draft a talent like him bc he can’t play week 1? I’d look at Travis Kelce as an example of that being a foolish idea.

I do think he can come back in October though. He had surgery in mid January and already said he was ahead of schedule.

George Pickens came back after 8 months and looked normal at 10 months against Bama. ACL injuries used to be closer to 12 months on the 9-12 month timeline but I think modern medicine has pushed that to now be closer to 9 months standard

Travis Kelce was a 3rd round pick, not a 1st rounder that we traded up to get.

If he can't play for 9 ****ing months, you're just throwing away draft value.

We wanted those picks because of the cheap value. You're burning alot of that if you trade up for him.

Exactly.

Take Williams at 29, fine I guess.

To be clear I’m not saying to trade a massive amount of picks for him. I think trading a 3rd and 4th for a really good prospect (be it DE or WR) is fine considerjf you’d still have 3 top 50 picks, 4 in the top 62 and 5 in the top 103.

I like having picks but we have a ton. I want to use some to go get a legit elite talent.

Keep in mind we could do that and then trade down with pick 30 and get a 3rd back from it to replenish.

Lots of fun options

Just depends on how they'd have to go about it.

I don't care either way. You gotta get elite talent somehow.

You're likely trading a 1st and 3rd at least, probably a 1st and 2nd, to get up high enough to take Williams if the latest mocks hold true. That's too much.

I understand where you are coming from and I can respect you wanting an immediate return. I think hardman had 700 yards last season. If jameson could come in and put 500 yards in the last half of the season and play well in the playoffs, wouldn’t that be a success? Look at the success rate of bama wrs. Jameson could do that with mahomes. I don’t want another hardman with Pickens or someone like that, that takes years to produce.

If we draft Williams at 29 and he plays say half a season, that's one thing.

Most of the simulators have him going off the board in the teens. That's a steep price to pay for anybody, let alone a guy that MIGHT be able to play next year.

Nah I think the highest I’m willing to go is late teens. 3rd, 4th and maybe another day 3 pick is the most I want to give up.

Although I would consider giving up a future 2nd bc I think we’re trading Chris Jones for that next year.

According to the trade value chart, the likely compensation for picks 18 or 19 (the two lowest in the "teens") is 30 and 62.

That's just too much.

Dude....I'm not trading up to draft ANY of these WRs. Not anything higher than 20...that's for sure.

If we're going to trade up for someone....it'd better be Johnson or Karlaftis at DE.

So in your mind....it will cost a 3rd to move up from 29 but somehow you're going to get a 3rd round pick back from someone moving up to 30?

Jordan Davis.

Jordan Davis solves so many things with our defense.

1. His size is a perfect countermeasure to Jones.

2. Jones will allow Davis an entire rookie season full of single-teams.

3. If you have push up the gut this good, your DEs don't need to be outstanding.

4. If Jones walks after his contract is up, Davis should be able to take over those duties.

Trading up and selecting Davis solves a ton of the issues our defensive line has now and in the future.

Dude is a top 15 pick almost guaranteed. I'd love to have him but we have the same chance of getting Travon Walker.

I get it. I just think Jameson’s likelihood of being a bust is low. I could see a guy like Pickens being a bust. He’s lanky and doesn’t make great cuts. And looks awkward at times. Dotson doesn’t have excellent burst. His 3 cone was like 7.3 which was awful for a guy his size. Christian Watson looks electric but played against inferior Competition and still had low numbers but maybe that’s the qbs fault but it’s still a risk. And then there’s jameson who probably would have 1800 yards without the injury in the sec and bama hasn’t had any busts at wr in a while. And jameson fits perfectly in our offense with mahomes style.

My plan would be to move and get jameson if he’s there around 18-23 and if he’s gone, move up to 23-25 to get burks. I just see jameson as the lowest risk of bust for us that we could reasonably get with a super high ceiling as well.

This was a trade made a couple years ago moving up 6 spots:

49ers receive:
» 2020 first-round pick (No. 25; Arizona State WR Brandon Aiyuk)
Vikings receive:
» 2020 first-round pick (No. 31; TCU CB Jeff Gladney)
» 2020 fourth-round pick (No. 117; South Carolina DE D.J. Wonnum)
» 2020 fifth-round pick (No. 176; Miami WR K.J. Osborn)

They gave up a 4th and 5th. You don’t think a 3rd and 4th would get us close to pick 20?

Not at the end of those rounds.

They went from 25 to 31. We're talking about going from 29 or 30 to 20 or even higher.

It's going to take a 1st plus a low 2nd/high 3rd and we don't have a high 3rd without a trade down to get more picks.

Hey, we traded up a similar distance for Pat.

29 to 23, sure.

29 to 18, nope. Deal's off.

You can't be serious.

You want to give up our 1st next year for a DT?

Sure....but then you said that we could trade down from 30 for a 3rd. Why would a team give up more value than we just did to move up?

And it can't just be for the 5th year option.

Then probably go ahead and stop talking about DE. Jermaine Johnson for sure won’t be there and I’ve seen multiple mocks with Karlaftis going in the teens.

I guess hope that Boye Mafe falls, but not likely. These pass rushers are going to fly off the board. That’s just the way it is

If all those edge guys go that high, there will be not 1 but TWO WR's sitting there at 29/30.

There's no reason at all to trade up for a WR.

EVERYONE IS GOING IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!