Have been a huge fan of Smoke Monday for years. Would love to grab him day 2 or 3 like you said to continue to build that secondary. Dude lays the damn lumber and is a ball hawk.

Yea because chiefs are currently 6 mil over the cap before Reid’s signing

Texans fans sad to see him go

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC never offered Tyrann Mathieu a deal … Chiefs’ plan was to go in a different direction and they were willing to let him walk <a href="https://t.co/NDoThdrLhN">https://t.co/NDoThdrLhN</a></p>&mdash; KimberlEY A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1503564304515223557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty sure it's Wednesday.

Neither of you declined to spit roast me either so yeah I'd say I'm winning with these moves

HOLY **** THIS IS LIKE A DREAM COME TRUE. TRUST IN VEACH BITCHES

LMAO to not even offer a contract is saying something. Has to be a huge blow to his gigantic ego.

Who's the vocal leader of our D now?

Sorenson, bitch.

I wanted Marcus Williams, but the dollars are better on this deal. Reid is also a young player too, so no worries there.

I’m glad we addressed the position before the draft too. Get a CB and some pass rush in FA. Probably a WR (maybe Juju or someone like that). Address the remainder in the draft.

Looks like those business decisions got you right out of Kansas City. Will always love and respect him for his role in bringing a title here but he just wasn't the same this season

Chargers have Derwin so Tyrann would not be starting so he is not going to the Chargers

I hope we grab Clowney next!

S Reid, WR Landry, DE Clowney, RT Collins + restructured Frank Clark & either Williams, Wyatt, or Leal in the first RD?

I’m not sure what to think about this signing. Advanced stats and grading companies say he’s been a below average starter, but in 2018/2019, he was damn good.

Let’s hope the change in scenery brings out the best in him.

Agreed and that’s why he wasn’t tendered a contract. He served his purpose and made some great plays for us, but it was time to move on.

He was clearly not a fit in Lovie’s defense.

Reid has insane potential and has flashed it when Texans were actually competitive. I really wouldn't put any weight on grades, especially recently while Houston was a dumpster fire.

This guy is going to make the transition of a Badgerless defense seamless. What a ****ing score by Veach man. Dude completely changed the game for our off-season plans and draft.

So you trust him after resigning Clark?

Very wise move. AFC West is going to be a track meet this season.

hes that POS that tried to hurt Tyreek and then went on to let up 50 points..i kmnow when the Chiefs sign someone he automatically becomees a God around here..but im not sure about this guy. .coming from such a loser lockerroom. .

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin, we’re going to need you to not do this to Tyreek in practice though… <a href="https://t.co/dUS08Cuzcz">pic.twitter.com/dUS08Cuzcz</a></p>&mdash; The Kingdom (@MahomeSZN) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomeSZN/status/1503564021252988929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He didnt "re-sign" Clark.

He restructured him.

BUT NOW HE'S OUR POS!!

That's what you want your safety to do.

Same thing since he is still a Chief

Was there a flag thrown on that play? No.

When was the last time HB lit someone up like that?

We should be celebrating that play, not using it to denigrate the guy.

Thank you!

“Heart and soul of the defense” though…pffffft lol….

Agreed, that's a clean hit. Separate the receiver from the ball and intimidate without any helmet-to-helmet spearing crap. It's his job. Want to see him doing it for us.

I am pretty sure from the stories that I've read that the Chiefs talked with his agent.

So if Mathieu's agent says we want top 5 safety money -

Jamal Adams $17,500,000 average
Harrison Smith $16,000,000 average
Justin Simmons $15,250,000 average
Budda Baker $14,750,000 average
Eddie Jackson $14,600,000 average

Chiefs really did not have a contract to offer him that would be satisfactory.

Yikes. Things must've soured pretty badly between Mathie and the organization if they didn't even throw him a low-ball. Just a pat on the ass out the door.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feels like the steal of the day <a href="https://t.co/HK7mAO1IWS">https://t.co/HK7mAO1IWS</a></p>&mdash; Connor Rogers (@ConnorJRogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1503575847571267586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That toxic fan stuff probably didn't help his cause

Exactly. The Chiefs played it perfectly. Reid is a headhunter and costs less and is younger. There’s still some damn good players this FA period, too. We’re still going to add some solid additions and I still think we’ll pull off superstar trade. The Chiefs aren’t done, we have a lot of our own FAs who won’t be retained and will need to be replaced.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">S Justin Reid is an extremely impressive young man who could thrive with a better team around him after leaving the Houston Texans for the Kansas City Chiefs<a href="https://t.co/NWDAMkd0Ta">pic.twitter.com/NWDAMkd0Ta</a></p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1503569095861620740?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

seems smart

smarter than some of the others LMAO

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CHIEFS KINGDOM‼️ LET’S GET TO WORK‼️������ <a href="https://t.co/CnmQvjlCfj">pic.twitter.com/CnmQvjlCfj</a></p>&mdash; Justin Reid (@JustinqReid) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinqReid/status/1503590806921224199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I finally ****ing beat you

ROFL

Giddy. :D

Came in a bit cheaper than I thought he'd be too. Love this kid's game.

Not quite. Clark's cap hit was $26.3M and now it's $15.2M. That's $11.1 M savings. That pays for Reid with a little left over before we do anything else.

Excited for this signing.

Need another solid addition. Not only for the third spot but Thornhill is a FA next year and I’m so sure you throw too much at him to stay.

In his best years, he is credited as being a FS in 2018/2019 on pro football reference.

When he was moved to SS, his grades fell. I know pFF isn’t the end all, be all…but his numbers as a FS and SS are vastly different.

2018

75 overall
75 coverage
63 pass rush
72 run defense

2019

76 overall
79 pass defense
66 pass rush
65 run defense

2020

60 overall
67 pass coverage
67 pass rush
48 run defense

2021

51 overall
58 pass rush
45 coverage <——Dan Sorensen territory
65 run defense

I’d have to wonder if this is Thornhills replacement and they will add another guy with a significant investment or wait it out and see what bargain vet is left without a dance partner in a few days or a week.

Here’s a little write up about him, this article ranked the top 200 free agents, Reid was #82:

82. S JUSTIN REID, HOUSTON TEXANS

Reid’s first two seasons in Houston were extremely promising, with his 80.4 overall grade across 2018 and 2019 ranking 17th among safeties with at least 300 snaps over the two seasons. Reid’s 87.0 coverage grade ranked 13th, and his 14.1% forced incompletion rate ranked 19th among safeties with at least 25 targets into their coverage in that span. Since then, things have trended in the wrong direction, ultimately culminating with Reid being a healthy scratch in Week 12 for disciplinary reasons. It seems very likely that the Houston Texans were more to blame than Reid for his decline in play, so perhaps he can get his career back on track in a more stable environment.

Strengths:
– Capable playmaker at the catch point

Weaknesses:
– Eye discipline
– Tackling

Scheme Fit/Role:
SPOT STARTER/DEPTH PIECE AT SAFETY: Reid's film doesn't suggest that he deserves better than the role he's presently in. The soft zone looks probably don't do much to help, but Reid is often unable to range to the ball and doesn't boast the tracking skills to take good angles and make sound tackles.

Recent Injury History:
Reid was listed on the injury report in 2021 for a knee ailment but hasn't missed practice or game time due to injury.

Contract Projection: Three years, $21 million ($7M per year, $13.5 million total guaranteed)

Bottom Line:
Reid is stuck in a bad situation schematically and lacks talent around him, but he's done little to raise his team's stock or his own in Houston. He's been productive in years prior, leaving open the possibility that he needs a change of scenery to return to form.

Kinda weird tweet from Mahomes personal trainer, who is currently in Hawaii.... with Mathieu.... at Mahomes' wedding. Likely nothing at all, but sharing juuuust in case.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maybe they aren’t done</p>&mdash; Bobby Stroupe (@bobbystroupe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/status/1503604947127980032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is bizarre

Update: He said he doesn’t know anything.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Reid is 16 months younger than Juan Thornhill.</p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1503612054502060040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Houston played Reid out of the box mostly because the badly needed his range on the back end.

With Thornhill alongside him he’ll be free to play where needed. And he’s a very willing and effective hitter.

Its about 15% higher than I thought he’d get but the market is hotter than I figured it would be as well.

This is a REALLY nice player with potential that was being squandered in Houston. We just upgraded the position at a very reasonable price point. And the floor is what he did last season which was still solid.

This is a very good low risk signing with a hell of a lot of room for surplus value in the contract. Excellent work by Veach here.

It’s an excellent signing.

And three of those 5 deals are deals the team would probably like to have back. Another one is something of a legacy contract. About the only contract on that list that presents a true asset is Simmons.

And if Mathieu ends up on that list he’ll end up in ‘regret’ territory as well.

But there’s a non-zero chance that he’s overplayed his hand here and ends up closer to $12-13 million a year when the big money stops flying at the beginning.

No, it's not. Moron.

Nice! Great replacement for Mathieu

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Safety Justin Reid (<a href="https://twitter.com/JustinqReid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JustinqReid</a>) on his 3-year agreement with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>: “I was chasing after a 3-year deal. I didn’t want to do the longer term. Really wanted to stick to a shorter deal, so that way..I’ll have another opportunity to sign another contract before I turn 30.”</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1503622210421993474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Safety Justin Reid (<a href="https://twitter.com/JustinqReid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JustinqReid</a>) on reaching a three-year agreement with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>: “Everyone in my family is excited for me. It’s a heck of an opportunity. It’s a lot of money and I’m just blessed to be put in a position to play the game I love and make a living out of it.”</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1503623991696625664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Safety Justin Reid (<a href="https://twitter.com/JustinqReid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JustinqReid</a>) on reaching a three-year agreement with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> worth $31.5 million that includes $20 million guaranteed: “To be honest with you, I don’t know if it’s hit me all the way yet. It’s definitely a good feeling. There’s a lot of blood, sweat…” <a href="https://t.co/0A1QDXfyAO">pic.twitter.com/0A1QDXfyAO</a></p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1503621166870712324?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope that a team like Jacksonville Jaguars gives Tyrann Mathieu a nice big contract for as many years as possible. At least 3 years for $15 M per year.

Jaguars already spent $180 M yesterday. What's another $45 M?

It helps our comp pick formula.

This feels like a steal. We bought low on a guy who’s coming out of a toxic as hell culture. Imagine spending your entire career only knowing the Easterby way. He got into a fight with culley that he was obviously frustrated. That’s the only thing that concerns me is the very off chance that his benching was justified. But given culley and Easterbys incompetence I’m gonna give Reid the benefit of a doubt.

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He also has a decent leg

https://twitter.com/fieldyates/statu...435850241?s=21

The Texans benched both Justin Reid and Zach Cunningham. Wouldn’t doubt Easterby and his bellichick stooge casserio decided he wasn’t a part of the right 53. Seems eerily similar to when pioli would tell his veterans we could find better players off the street. Will be fun to watch this guy play motivated again.

Yeah, when you look at some of the safeties that agreed to terms yesterday and how much they got, this seems VERY affordable.

Mathieu is going to get a lot more than 3 for 30. Tracy Walker got 3 for 25. Diggs got 3 for 40.

Justin Reid is a very good football player.

Playmaker. If you try to explain it in the traditional box vs free safety he's a box safety with + range.

Can play free too but then is below average range wise.

Ideally you pair him with a rangier, free safety.

That's not Thornhill due to Juan's below average processing.

In a salary cap free world you would see Badger AND Reid..

Because that's not happening I would try Sneed at free. Sneed has the instincts that could make him special there. And if that can't work keep drafting looking for a cheaper solution.

This is almost as bad as signing Fisher and moving Brown to right tackle.

You know who had limited range and struggled in deep coverage when he came to the Chiefs from the Texans? Tyrann Mathieu.

Furthermore, the issues with Thornhill are physical not mental. We all saw how he played pre-injury. His processing isn't an issue, that's just dumb.

Yes… I had always though Sneed could be a good safety.. This may be their plan..

Thornhill is not starter quality at NFL safety. You can pretend all you like but he's not.

When Gabe Davis runs by him like a traffic cone in the playoffs it was not his physical abilities that were a problem.

I love Sneed even if this transition never happens. But elite NFL free safety with plus coverage would make our defense top ten paired with Reid if we get any pass rush.

Good hustle on this play

https://twitter.com/dantej21/status/...879120896?s=21

Good idea. Let’s create another hole at corner.

Let’s play a game. Which secondary do you think is better?

Thornhill-Reid-Sneed-Fenton

or

Sneed-Reid-Fenton-Baker

Because until we can actually acquire any corner of merit, that’s basically your depth chart.

I think you’re going to have to get used to Thornhill.

This is just a bad take.

I get why people wish Thornhill was good.

Turn on that Buffalo game after badger left. We had no NFL safeties playing.

Buffalo once they realized we could not disguise our coverages were laughing at us.

Thornhill is better than Sorenson at coverage. That's not a very high bar.

Somebody should let the Bills know that their TWO pro bowl safeties aren't NFL caliber...

yeah dude already took all of KC's money.

Well, this is a Justin Reid thread and I don't want to turn this into a Thornhill thread so I'll bow out of further discussion here.

We all agree we got a very good NFL safety in Reid. We can debate other needs in the other draft/FA threads.

I think Thornhill is probably a pretty average NFL safety with upside given his history and age.

I think corner is clearly a premium position versus safety.

You're the guy who is recommending that we take a valuable corner asset and turn him into a safety to create a potentially elite defender while immediately reducing his overall value. Brilliant idea.

If you want to criticize Veach's plan, you can point to the fact that this is a good draft for safeties and perhaps that's where we should've focused. But the idea Thornhill is a big enough problem that you need to create a larger hole at corner is just silly.

Stop being silly.

Juan Thornhill was playing at a high level prior to the injury. Anybody that says otherwise is lying.

I’m don’t think Thornhill is all that great but a few of those wide open TDs were on Mike Hughes not Thornhill.

Where did I criticize Veach? Now you're making stuff up. I've done nothing but praise the Reid signing.

Oh we're all on pins and needles.