Kaiir Elam would be a damn fine replacement for Ward at 30.

Sign Za’Darius Smith or Chandler Jones.

Trade up for Sam Williams, Arnold Ebiketie, Cam Thomas, or Boye Mafe in the 2nd.

nah we'll be good, have Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and a beastly o-line. There's still the draft and more free agents to get

Dumbass.

I'm not against signing Smith but going into the draft with a guy who has a bad back and Frank Clark is less than ideal

Probably.

Fenton still seems to be considered a pure nickel corner because of his size and relative lack of athleticism (again, for an NFL corner, not for a normal human being).

But he's a little like Jamel Dean in that regard. Dean was considered a 'nickel guy' well after he'd started spending a lot of his time out wide and performed well.

Fenton actually played most of his snaps out wide last year, IIRC. And he was more effective from the boundary than the slot - which isn't terribly surprising in the modern game since you can use the boundary as an additional defender and more and more teams are using damn good WRs in the slot.

But once you get saddled with that "Nickel" label you get written off as a sub-package guy only, even if the slot is the harder spot to play in many ways.

My concern with Fenton is durability and how he'll age. Guys like him don't gracefully age out. They just hit the wall and splat.

So if you extend him you're looking at his age 26 season as the first year of the extension. If he has the career arc of someone like, say, Orlando Scandrick, he'll be ass by 28/29 yrs old.

Now depending on how eager he is to sign, I think you absolutely approach him and try to start the dialogue. But you're gonna have to take some risks there.

That’s why they will absolutely still add a guy early in the draft.

Can anyone explain why Sydney Jones signed for asswipe money?

Like seriously - how do we not beat that deal? Jones isn't the lockdown guy he looked like he could be before he wrecked his knee, but he's built himself back into a really solid player who could thrive in this system.

If we weren't going to retain Ward, how the hell were we not in on Jones?

I love Williams you don't think that sexual assault charge won't drop him to 62?

Probably injury history.

I don’t know though. I’m still holding out hope for Gladney at this point.

I will gladly offer him your cornhole if it seals the deal here.

Groceries PBJ

Good ****ing gawd what a loser mentality you have with almost every take.

I never read anything when Chiefs make a great move from you but one thing and the season is ****ing over and there are a few of you that are just Debby **** Downers here. No matter what the Chiefs do it's going be wrong or didn't make a move fast enough or didn't sign that guy. It's the ****ing off-season and haven't had the draft lighten up Francis. It's the same negative shit from you.

I'm not happy about this move I liked Charvarious Ward but it's not the ****ing apocalypses and Bruce Vane has his shit together. We are perennial contenders every year we have Mahomes.

Glad to see him get paid. Good corner, rarely injured. Very under rated. Wish we coulda kept him.

266 yards and 3tds from a rookie gets you slapped with walking papers.

Dude just signed for $27 million in guarantees.

Not sure how you define ‘walking papers’ but that would strike me as a hell of a severance package.

Coaching scheme could have prevented that with help from Safetys but they were kinda worthless if your counting on Dirty Dan. Yeah that kid is a special rookie too the likes of Randy Moss is who he reminded me of. Chase is going be as star in this league and we will likely go against him again in the playoffs.

We just lost our best CB! Ward played great against the pass and the run! Rarely had help deep. Cut down on PI penalties last year too. It's a big negative!

Snead, Fenton, Hughes, and Baker will not replace Ward!!!! We better find a pass rush ASAP! Why is Clark still on the team again????

Shame to lose him. I'm not mad keen on how little they seem to value quality CBs. I get they've done an excellent job with reclamation projects and cheapos but there's probably more Baker and Hughes types - decent cover - than Wards - decent starters.

If they are intending for Sneed to be our CB1 I think that's a bad idea. I think I'm on an island but I just don't think his coverage is good enough. Great tackler, great closing speed and great against the run, he's got all the tools for a top safety. CB - he's just not fluid enough.

Well, this sucks..

Sneed is a decent player with a massive upside, but people here have blown his performances way out of proportion. He wasn't great in coverage last year. He's great against the run and is amazing at blowing up those dump offs, but he doesn't mirror well at this point. Fenton was frequently better in coverage, I honestly think he's been the better and more significant find. He's not nearly as athletic as Sneed but at this point with Ward gone he's our best CB.

IMO, this kinda sucks :(

Nah I'll disagree. I called Sneed for a INT in game day thread in the AFCCG and he did. It's just unfortunately offense didn't capitalize on that opportunity for a touchdown. He can be a lock down corner. I trust him.

Sneed matches up better against taller, more physical receivers.

He won't mirror little fast guys as well which is why I wanted him on Tee Higgins when we played Bengals.

We aren’t finding a replacement for Ward which is why I really wanted to keep him. Oh well what’s done is done

Yeah, it stings a little bit.

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If you miss and love Ward so much then go be a 49ers then, the crying and bitching is ridiculous, Chiefs can not keep every free agent forever

What the hell is even that?

This is correct. We will sign a CB to a prove it deal, is my guess. I think that was the strategy all along. Beach is going to load up some dollars on EDGE players.

Yep. Like I said, I think boundary corners aren't as valuable under the current rules.

Pass rush and versatility is.

The guy we'll pay is Sneed.

Thank you. The modern NFL passing attack corners are more devalued and safeties more important, relative to before.

We still need good cover guys but Veach will find. Every year guys that can play are still sitting there for cheap after the big money goes out

Hope so.

Yep. Outside corners are basically allowed to run alongside WR's, and that's it. If they so much as look at them wrong, the flags come out. What's the point of paying guys huge money to do that?

Pass rushers to speed the play up and hit the QB, versatile safeties and LB'ers that can cover or rush, and confuse the QB so he holds the ball. That's what you need.

Speed up the QB's clock, but slow down his processing. That's your only option on defense in the modern NFL.

The weather is always perfect? In San Francisco?

Yes. Middle of the field you want guys that take away time and space. I call them erasers.

And versatility is huge. People blame Mahomes but the Bengals defense 2nd half was one of the most brilliant things I have ever seen.

They mixed and matched. Zigged and zagged. Desperate to pull rabbit after rabbit out of the hat, they did it. And it helped that they had almost zero holes. Not super stars but just good players all over the field. Let's emulate that a little.

This, this, a thousand times this.

We've been talking about it for months - scheme versatility and depth are at a premium in this NFL. You simply cannot have weak links in your defense, even if you have top playmakers out there. One or two guys can't shut down an offense anymore. There's just too many WR's on the field at any given time.

It's much more important to be consistently solid than inconsistently stellar.

As the saying goes, coldest Winter I ever spent was Summer in San Francisco.

I agree, that's how he should be used and the opposite for Hughes who we seemed desperate to see matched against people a foot taller than him.

He could be a lockdown potentially, I'm just saying he's much further off that than I think many people believe. He had a good rookie year on limited snaps and then an OK year where some of his, current, limitations were exposed.

This dude gets it

That was an outlier. Sometimes a guy just has a career day. Ward was in perfect position on almost every one of Chase's catches.

Need to look at Ward's entire body of work, which was excellent.


Ward’s 49.8% completion rate allowed over the past three seasons as a starter in Kansas City ranked lowest among all cornerbacks with at least 100 targets into their coverage.

Good corner will probably get even better shame we couldn't afford him. I wish him well, next man up.

Mooney Man???

Good for Ward. He worked himself from an UDFA to a big, life-changing contract.

Credit to Veach as well for trading for him - great move.

This is a killer...Especially without a pass rush.

My biggest Ward memory is toward the end of the good Super Bowl. Some 49er caught the ball on (I think) the last 49er drive on a short pass. Ward was about 10 yards downfield and squared up on the guy. They showed a camera view from behind the receiver, and you could see nothing but grass and the end zone behind Ward, but he was lasered in on the receiver and drove him out of bounds. If he had missed that tackle the world would be a dark place today.