From another local weather person.

MINNESOTA, USA — On March 15, the Senate unanimously passed the Sunshine Protection Act, which would make daylight saving time permanent across the United States.

The bill still needs approval in the U.S. House of Representatives before heading to the White House for President Biden's signature, and even if it does become law, permanent daylight saving time wouldn't go into effect until November 2023.

So what would locking the clock look like in Minnesota?

The impact would come during the colder months, when Minnesota would otherwise observes Central Standard Time.

Based on 2022 data for the Twin Cities, the biggest impacts would be seen surrounding the winter solstice when days are the shortest.

The welcome change is that the latest sunset would now be at 5:31 p.m. As it currently stands, the sun sets at 4:31 p.m. from Dec. 4-15.

But on the flip side, we would lose morning sun. Instead of coming up at 7:51 a.m. in late December and early January, the sun wouldn’t rise until an hour later. This means from Dec. 30 to Jan. 5, the sun up would come at 8:51 a.m.

1973–1975: Year-round experiment
During the 1973 oil embargo by the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), in an effort to conserve fuel, Congress enacted a trial period of year-round DST (P.L. 93-182), beginning January 6, 1974, and ending April 27, 1975.[11] The trial was hotly debated. Those in favor pointed to increased daylight hours in the summer evening: more time for recreation, reduced lighting and heating demands, reduced crime, and reduced automobile accidents. The opposition was concerned about children leaving for school in the dark and the construction industry was concerned about morning accidents. The act was amended in October 1974 (P.L. 93-434) to return to standard time for four months, beginning October 27, 1974, and ending February 23, 1975, when DST resumed.[12] When the trial ended in October 1975, the country returned to observing summer DST (with the aforementioned exceptions).[

I'd much rather have more sunlight in the evening than in the morning, tradeoff I'm fine with making.

Papi not even kidding run into me on the street I’ll butt **** you so hard you’ll have a ruptured sphincter for the rest of your life

Not all folks have bankers hours most the construction world starts at 6 or 7 am particularly in the summer to beat the heat. Enjoy your evening on the deck relaxing with saws hammers and all sorts racket :D.

Really don't care that much either way I will retire soon so longer evening will be ok for me.

Finagle the clocks twice a year was **** it so what to me.

I remember walking to school as a kid in the dark one year. (Back when kids walked to school.)

It was a drag.

School should start later.

^what a dumb post

Sorry to interrupt your continued whining, but when sunrise is X, it doesn't mean that it is pitch-black dark out until that very minute.
JFC

As an old dude myself, there is way too much old man whining in this thread. Human beings somehow survived thousands of years without knowing of daylight savings time. We will adapt just fine to not having this archaic legacy from old men.

Wouldn't it technically be the wrong time though if permanent - or opposite? I forget the entire reason it was started to begin with. Probably has to do with farmers so maybe not.

EC = Farmers
DST = War

Both are outdated.

Let's run this fade I'll knock u into the standard time

YES!!!! I have awoken Cosmo!!!!

No shit. The world runs 24-7. When it gets dark...we turn on lights. DST is an old and worn out idea way past it's time, if it ever really was a good thing to begin with. I would love to just do away with it altogether.

how did farmers become outdated

Child labor laws and those cool combines that drive themselves.

Also. Bibs > overalls.

Today I live in a nation of Karen's

Need to also make the Mon after the SB a federal holiday.

EVERYONE hates going to work Mon following the SB.

Should prob do the same for the black Fri after Thanksgiving too.

I'm on board with this.

And the day we vote.

The following was not meant as a political post of any kind merely a transportation and logistics suggestion.

It would probably just be easier to play the Super Bowl earlier in the day on Sunday.

Oh great, now how will I remember to change the batteries in the smoke detectors and switch the septic fields????

You can't teach old dogs new tricks. :mad:

Jesus, you summoned cosmo.

Chicks in bibs... :drool:

If it happens, in a few years we will go back to time changes.

We’re the United States, dammit. If we need more daylight, just ****ing borrow as much as we want and pay back the interest with future daylight.

Please forgive my ignorance but, what is the difference?

Bibs don't cover the shoulders

Fabric and function.
And the ability to change a tractor tire in -20 weather.

I was going to do a funny post showing the difference in girls but I got stuck on the Google image search "big boobs in overalls."

😂😂

So, we're talking about the difference between bib overalls and coveralls?

HE is. I'm not.

You're the one that brought it up

No, but I really don't care enough to explain it to you.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hope the DC politicians know that leaving us in Daylight Saving time here in Minnesota will mean a sunrise at nearly 9 AM during much of December! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DST?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DST</a></p>&mdash; Ken Barlow (@kbarlowkstp) <a href="https://twitter.com/kbarlowkstp/status/1504060755481616385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Logic, common sense and science are lost on it anyway.

Move south.

It's turrible for everyone!

Which means more electricity usage in many and most places during winter. The stupid thing is that in two weeks no one will give a shit. Further...what's right for the people in Rubio flo rida ain't the same needs for the people in Minnesota. So...if Flo Rida doesn't want to switch...then do that...if Minnesota wants to switch...then do that. But stop the Federal Government over reach and making one size rules that fits none.

Dude, if every state set their own time shifts, it would be chaos. No ****ing way. Just get rid of it forever.

They aren't removing hours from the day. If you use more at 7am, aren't you using less at 5pm?

Or something like that.

Arizona has been doing it there own way for a long time and nobody gives a shit. As well as parts of Indiana.

You Karens are just bitchy from changing your sleep cycle. Call it...time mensuration.

That's 2 states.

Have you ever tried to coordinate an international conference call?

It has nothing at all to do with my sleep schedule. I don't sleep.

It has everything to do with it being convoluted, superfluous, and utterly outdated. It's stupid, that's why it needs to change.

Now I know that it irritates people this much, I propose that we do it four time a year with 30 minute adjustments each time.

Daylight Savings Sucks. I wouldn’t mind earlier sunsets and later sunrises. I think I would actually get more rest without it. I wouldn’t have to wake up early as **** to get to the hunting blind and fishing for monster cats would start an hour earlier (more beer).

It's not the end of the world, but it's annoying when most of my out of state meetings change time every 6 months, but at least just about everyone else changes at once.

If you added 10 states who stayed on standard or DST... yeah, most people outside of that state wouldn't care most of the time, but it would be kind of reeruned to have to think twice about whether Florida was in EST or CDT or if MN was in CST or EDT, etc.

And who gives a shit if it's dark when you're at work at 8am or a little darker until 9am... at least it's lighter out when you're off work and might actually do stuff outside.

It's light here by 4:30-5am in June... looks around...

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Yes. I do international calls all the time.

Then keep what ever time you want in your state or locale.

Your average person can't manage time changes. I get tired of having to manage it for them.

We already did this in the 70s and it didn't last a year. This will be the same...you watch.

That sounds very much like a line from a bad movie in the 70s.

That's fine. At least try it. If people are too stupid to manage it, we'll have to change back. They're not good at it now, though so it's time to try something different.

We invented computers and phones and GPS in the 70s. No one cared.

We should get rid of that pesky International Date Line, too. That really screws me up.

It needs to be standard time or it doesn't work. Sunrise at nearly 9am in the winter won't sit well with parents.

I'll bet this doesn't get approved. If it does, we will go back to switching in a year or two.

Kids spend too much time in school already. They shouldn't be having kids get on the bus at 6:15am like my kids used to. It's ****ing bullshit. It's all bullshit.

The fact is you can probably find states where time change is an issue now (outside of the states that decided against it already) while other states will complain if it went standard or DST all the time... there's some variation north/south, but an even a bigger variation east/west within a time zone.

Change is hard and apparently not changing is even harder, or something like that.

As long we're tolerating working around rando apostrophes in names, none of it matters

Monday morning at 8:01: THE TIME ON MY PHONE IS WRONG! calls started rolling in.

Then look at your PC clock, you worthless whiner.

Think about the kid's!

Stop changing the clocks. Anyone who wants to keep observing DST is free to do so by adjusting their own schedules, but **** making everyone observe it.

My ****ing phone changed time sometime Sunday in the few hours it was off wifi, so my alarm was an hour early Monday morning.

The TMobile towers haven't recognized the Arizona time zone in over a year, then when I turn off the auto detect, they didn't have Phoenix as an option.

How ****ing hard is it to NOT change time... :cuss:

So everyone is in agreement this is a great change? See you on the other side peeps! :D

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If this DST bill actually passes, Williston, ND will have a sunrise at 9:44 at the latest in Winter.<br><br>Oof.</p>&mdash; Luke Sampe (@LukeSampe) <a href="https://twitter.com/LukeSampe/status/1503836138137604098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**** Williston ND

Good news, Minnesota! Some random town in North Dakota currently has an 8:45am sunrise in the winter and they cope just fine!

We can rehome all 27k residents in Canada if they don’t like it. **** them indeed

Nobody ****ing cares.

And that’s coming from someone who grew up in the Dakotas.

Trade them for some Canadian women. Canada has some hot chicks and like 95% of the male population is gay so....

... Dicks for everyone!

They should split into Quadkotas with Northwest Dakota and Southwest Dakota being part of MDT and Northeast and Southeast Dakota staying in CDT.

I for one accept our new DST Overlords

Or just become one big Dakota and then they can shut the **** up.

This.

The ****ers should stop living in North Dakota. It's unfit for human habitation.

Yes.

What's so sacred about Super Bowl Sunday.

Just move the freaking game to Saturday.

too long to copy

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