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More tryhard bullshit from the king of tryhard bullshit. OH YEEEEAHHHH!!!

LMAO

Chiefs are 6 consecutive AFC West champs after Broncos won 5 in a row after the 2010 Chiefs somehow won the division.

Chargers and Raiders have not won the division since 2009 Chargers and 2002 Raiders.

Next season does not kickoff until September.

Seems like not enough information to rank teams before the draft and end of free agency and training camp.

I suppose it would be interesting to see how the betting lines on futures results trend.

This might be our toughest year yet for a long time but it's going pay off huge down the line. Denver Raiders and Chargers think they got one up on us but they all have false hope because the players they acquired are really on one year deals that they traded for and are going want to get paid lots of money plus they all gave up premium draft picks so pretty much after this year they will go down hill fast and we will have youthful energetic guys making plays. Look at Bolton and Gay they out performed Hitchens and Frank Clark.


Yes this year maybe a bump in the road but worth it when we can have success for lots of years and championships.

Coach Reid teams are resilient and go on long winning streaks.


I like how our rivals got their hopes up and putting us down this will make it way more fun beating them. We may split a couple but I still think we will continue our streak beating Denver 14th and 15th time. Russell Wilson is a shell of himself even though he can still play. I don't see his heart into it and when it gets cold in Denver or December in Kansas City he won't like getting hit.

When was the last time the Raiders won the season series with the Chiefs? I really can’t remember it. This isn’t madden. Players don’t go to another team and carry their rating with them. We will see how this works out! Can’t wait.!

If I ever make a post about how everyone here "viciously attacked me", you have my permission to call me a weep-titty-baby. Until then, which will be never, stop being a drama queen.

Yeah, but you were an Alex Smith apologist so you were no more right than those guys.

One-year proposition, if any of those division rivals win a SB that will be total vindication and reason to sit back in the lawn chair and luxuriate in their complete success for a while, by [revised] CP standards.

Ok but for real, where did you get the epic idea to compare a sports team to an HBO show?? Was it a Bill Simmons column from 2005????

I seriously have a boner for our offensive line. This O line is going blowy the **** out of teams. You all underestimate CEH but look what he did to Buffalo his rookie year that was one game but still with this Offensive line he is going be able to burst through holes and juke socks out of defenders. He carries guys 5 extra yards on his back trying to tackle him. I'm sure injuries are a concern with CEH but I'm going bet he stays healthy most of his injuries were flukes like doing the splits or a 325 pound defensive lineman fall on him. Yeah and he struggled because he lost weight after gallbladder surgery and Coach should have rested him 6 games to get strength back up. He did come on strong in the playoffs.


THIS OFFENSIVE LINE WILL EAT LINEBACKERS FOR SNACKS.

MOTHER ****ING TREY SMITH DUDE I MEAN DUDE is going **** someone up with his brutality.



**** you AFC West Chargers Raiders and Broncos Chiefs Kingdom reigns supreme

Alex was a workable solution in an era with not a lot of free-agent or draft QB options. We grabbed generational talent the moment it came available, and I was on board with that the instant it happened, WAY faster than most of the QB obsessed fans around here.

Unless your position is we should have drafted Mahomes in High School.

All I ever said was that Alex wasn't the problem, at the time . . . Did we fix that problem of giving up double-digit leads in the playoffs after he left?

I seem to recall a playoff run where this team came back from double digits to win by double digits in all three games. Does that count as fixing, my epic good sir???

KC is now 3rd or 4th in the West. Every team has a better defense and all have better WR's than KC. Also, all have improved over last season while KC got worse. The advantage KC had on offense is gone. Terrible decision to let Tyreek go IMO, since he was still under contract. Sure we got picks, but the last high offensive picks were spent on CEH and Hardman. That does not instill confidence. Can't replace arguably the best weapon in football.

I seriously hope you took a mallet to your head a few times before posting this, because you came to the conclusion that today is some sort of full reerun contest and you're just that competitive, because holy ****. ROFLLMAO

The problem of giving up those big leads is the point.

Who was supposed to engineer those comebacks for us before Mahomes learned to drive or first got his dick wet? Geno Smith? Ryan Tannehill? Teddy Bridgewater?

Where do the Chiefs stand in the Division?
 

1st last time I looked at the standings.

How about you **** yourself, Bearcat

Ban me if I bother you. Never stopped you before.

Do you actually have a rebuttal, outside 'hey, it's fun, . . . have fun and enjoy it, because if you don't I'll be mad and sad.'

Mods say you're a reerun and should stop rooting for sports.

I think yall got robbed personally . Should have got 2 first rounders atleast because the 1st you got is damn near a 2nd rounder.

Lol

Look, I'll admit, you've done a pretty good job if convincing some of the biggest dipshits on this board that you're smart and clever. Unfortunately those of us who have read an entire book are not so impressed

We floundered around with Alex for 5 years, netting one measly playoff win and never making it past the Divisional Round in the process. We made the switch to Mahomes and coincidentally found ourselves in the AFC Championship game that same year and hoisting the Lombardi just one year after that.

Alex was a decent QB and a great stabilizer for the franchise at the time, but he was clearly the limiting factor when the lights were the brightest.

Ah, but then four seasons after he left, the Chiefs blew a double digit lead in the playoffs, and so therefore, uh, Ari Gold for le epic win or something???

Stop with the logic. You're gonna hurt some people.

Vegas dropped our SB odds all the way from +800 to +850. In other words: they don’t even care Ty is gone.

Should I trust professional oddsmakers with real money on the line....or a Fade goofball on a message board?

So that's a no on rebuttal?

So your position is we should have drafted Mahomes in 2014?

There are a couple people bleeding out here. Lets give it until the opening game of the season to find out. This team is going to look a lot different than it does "right this second",and there are going to be a lot of new talented players. We'll be fine.



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If you look at the Vegas odds, we're squarely in 1st.

You never answered my question. Where did you get the idea to compare sports to Entourage? Was it a Bill Simmons column from 2005, or a Bill Simmons column from 2004? I want to know more about your process

It's so so funny that you think this inane rhetoric is some kind of epic gotcha. Classic dumb-guy-who-thinks-he's-smart shit.

I'll put this in terms you might understand: you've got Gob Bluth's attitude and Buster Bluth's intellect

My position is that you shouldn't have been gargling Alex's balls all those years

Tannehill? Geno? Manziel?

What's your solution? And would you stand behind it if they decided they had too much invested in that solution to gamble on Mahomes in 2017?

It's not a gotcha, it's reality.

Don't go upsetting htis' precious vitriol balance, whiny-titty-baby [there, balance restored. . . :thumb:].

I’m as negative as anyone on the current state of affairs in KC. The next year, maybe 2 might be a bit of a step back. That being said, going to be fun watching Derek Carr get $40-45 million a year and Wilson getting $50 million a year starting next year and Herbert joining Wilson and Rodgers in the $50 million club over the next 1-2 years. Enjoy the next 1-2 years AFCW teams because by the time those contracts kick in KC should be reloaded and ready for another run. I have a feeling none of these AFCW teams end up winning a Super Bowl, so in the end they will have all blown their load for nothing.

1 until the standings say otherwise.

Hint: "Alex Smith was a limited QB who held back the Chiefs offense" and "Other QBs who were available at the time were not better than Alex Smith" are not mutually exclusive statements.

Also, the blue on the map is water

I ran across this site when trying to think through the impact of this trade, and it's actually super interesting. Not that Vegas odds tell us everything we need to know, but here are the impacts of a few recent roster moves:

Broncos sign Wilson - Odds jump from +2100 to +1200
Brady un-retires - TB odds jump from +2800 to +800
Chiefs trade Tyreek - Odds drop from +800 to +900

If you assume that Vegas odds are at least generally reflective of actual chances, the story is pretty clear. A WR - even one as good as Tyreek - has a negligible impact compared to that of a franchise QB.

We'll be fine.

Maybe ask yourself why anyone would want to argue with you.

I've had several rebuttals in this thread and in return is super passive aggressive hyperbole bullshit... which means you're either very immature, trolling, or English is a 2nd language....I dunno.

I mean "sunshine and roses" and "mod thinks you should be happy all the time" is either passive aggressive bitch, trolling, or a severe lack of understanding of the words on your monitor. Because it's not even close to the point and I wouldn't at all call it constructive rebuttal either.

I mean, can you even tell me my opinion without going into some extreme hyperbole whiny bullshit? Because it should be really clear by now.

How can you ask this until after the draft? The Chiefs can get like 4 starting caliber players next month.

Did you forget they got Humphrey, Bolton and Smith from last years draft?

"Don't waste energy on people who are dead-set on being miserable" is a good approach to life.

1st.

We will not win the division but we will make the AFCG. Bookmark this please so either way you can come back

'you're reeruned, have you been struck with a heavy object' is snark, not rebuttal.

I've expressed reasons for optimism, in detail, as well as the distinction between HOPE and rational assurance, as well. And have nothing to respond to that. But if I utter the slightest criticism, of an OBJECTIVELY criticism-worthy development, and you reply with snark and pretend it level-headed rationality, when all it really is is a empty non-commital shrug and Que cera, cera.

Which, yeah. . . . On some level it's just entertainment, no use in worrying or discussing, or analyzing, or even caring. . . But that kind of negate the entire premise of CP.

Mumble, mumbe . . . gargling balls. something. something.

Yeah, we started the whole "explain it once and move on" thing in the Gripe thread and it saves a ton of time and frustration....and that's a good way to go about these threads as well (at most).

After the week to week crying this season, then "ermergerd it's day 2 of free agency and we suck!!", it's almost like today was the universe's way of saying "I'll give you something to cry about!" to all the miserable ****s.

So, what's my opinion then?

Baby Lee is a reerun who was struck with a heavy object.

Beyond that, best I can suss is a generalized gripe of 'what's with all these OPINIONS on a sports discussion board!!?!?!?'

Take a breath. Hug someone you love. Smoke some weed. Hell, I have a good therapist if you need it. It'll all be OK.

Some of you guys should at least wait until the draft and free agency are done before freaking out.

It's like walking into a studio and criticizing the artist on a half-done painting.

LMAO

So, you're admitting that you're either trolling so you can come off as a whiny bitch or otherwise have zero interest in anything beyond whining and creating fake conflict of things that never happened in the past while somehow acting like you're above it all.

It's a strange thing to type all those paragraphs of big words just to fool nobody (as carcosa pointed out), but it's nice to have official closure on this! :toast:

Of course you are not going to evidence this. . .

You're just going to giggle and snark . . .

Everything I've said, I've meant. So it's not whining. It's assessment.

You disagree, but you don't have the brain cells to rebut or argue your position, so you propose that I have an ulterior motive, and flatly state I'm wrong without an alternative perspective, then put it on ME to 'tell me your opinion' for you.

It's fine if you don't give a shit what the Chiefs do or don't do. And it's fine that you are annoyed by people who do care.

It's not fine, to impose that perspective on everyone else.

I feel like I just walked in on Metallica recording Reload.

As to the original question I don't really know. I guess I'll still pick the Chiefs to win the division, but it's close with the Chargers, and possibly also with the Broncos. My rankings right now would I guess be:

1. Chiefs
2. Chargers
3. Broncos
4. Raiders

Probably some homerism here, but the Chiefs have so thoroughly dominated this division I feel like the Chargers need to prove they can close the deal before I actually pick them. The biggest unknown is how the coaching situations play out for the Broncos and Raiders.

Or maybe the Black Album before it had been mixed properly.

So, you snark about me wanting confirmation that you're even paying attention enough to know my side of the argument, while continuing to show you have no interest in it, as you continue making up my opinion with comments like "if you don't give a shit" and that my stance is annoyance at people who care.

You believe I haven't provided rebuttal when I have a few times and then just said I have, while providing plenty of alternative perspective that you've obviously ignored since you believe they don't even exist.

You have zero interest in other people's opinions because you can simply make it up for them and argue against these made up strawmen.

You then take it one step further by acting superior to these illogical and completely made up opinions that you're arguing against with the occasional whiny passive aggressive snark... and the irony is acting superior over the idiotic opinions that you make up for other people just makes you look like a ****ing clown.

Yeah, I'm the one with the brain cell deficiency while you're dumbing down an argument to "durhur, Bearcat lives in a fantasy land of happiness" and then feeling superior over it, as opposed to understanding my actual halfway intelligent argument and providing an intelligent response.

Calling that trolling is actually a compliment, because if it's not, that's about the most Dunning Kruger thing ever, which is funny since I got a rep comment suggesting that to be a name change for you.

You can't have it both ways. If I haven't been paying attention to your reasoned opinions. Then I haven't been attacking your reasoned opinions.

You're the one who has been going in on me. I've only been responding to the substance [lack thereof] in the way you've gone at me.

I've said many many times, if you have an alternative view, put it in words and stand behind it. . . 'what're you, a dumbass' isn't an alternative view.

I think a lot of people are imagining subtext to my plain text and trying to hold me accountable for that. Which, if that's the way you want to play it, I can't stop you.

Me: I've stated my opinions in this thread, yet you just make up my opinion for me and don't take my actual opinions into consideration.

You: I haven't paid attention to your reasoned opinions.

Also you: Please provide reasoned opinions.

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You're referring to your snark in this thread as your reasoned opinions? Not some other opinions buried in a different mega-thread I haven't seen yet?

I think I summarized THOSE fairly and accurately. You're happy with the SB and now think any concerns by the fanbase about anything that subsequently develops is 'constant whining' that embarrasses the franchise. And think all criticism are 'reeruned' because you say so without countervailing fact or explanation.

Don't try to misconstrue history. If you have an alternative view summarize it and make your case.

It's in this thread.

"any concerns"/anything.. nope, hyperbole bullshit.
"All criticism"... nope, specifically addressed that and just more hyperbole bullshit.

Like I said though, there's zero point in over-explaining it. It's a pretty simple point that bad things happen, but it doesn't mean bad things will happen forever, and that a franchise QB making stupid money has its challenges that are totally worth it in the long run, even if today sucks.

You can either read the post below and catch the nuance without throwing everything into a black and white bucket, or not, I guess.

Distinction loses salience when you label everything hyperbolic bullshit.

There hasn't been a critical word I've said that you haven't jumped on. . . And you never explain your criticism beyond 'that's dumb.' And you never acknowledge when I actually agree that things aren't bad forever, taking pains to differentiate hope for good things, based solely on optimism and hope, versus confidence in trajectory based on metrics and evidence.

And then you proceed with your recommendation that critics stop watching altogether, and your assessment that criticism embarrasses the franchise, and then further escalate with veiled threats of name changes due to mod powers.

I don't think you have an accurate assessment of how your posts come across. I clearly see that many people don't read my posts correctly, and so I try to be honest and clear and unequivocal. But the more straightforward and honest I am, the more people read into it condescension and bad faith opinions I didn't even make [like the reeruned, decade-old at this point, argument that I think everything would be great if only Alex was QB, which is the EXACT opposite of my plain words, . . . but great for derision and snark].

You OTOH, just say your ambiguous and ominous posts are clear and apparent, and suggest people read and reread them until enlightenment occurs to them.

You will never live this down.


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Chiefs still have the best Head Coach/QB combo in the division.


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They stand a bit slower today.

You really think that any one of our rivals is going to win the Super Bowl this or next year?


Not happening. Then they get old and cap hell they gave up a lot of draft picks so they will have to scour FA next few years and from the scrap heap because they got to pay the ones they traded for or big name signings.

How are any of they're defenses going slow us down? Bosa had 1.5 sacks in two games i don't think K Mack is going make as big of impact as they think I could be wrong but he is getting traded around a lot can't keep a home and had foot surgery. Denver gave up a lot to get Russell Wilson and I think he will start out hot but not finish very well and still new quarterback for a team to get use too. The Raiders Josh McClown I laugh so hard my stomach hurts that they hired him. I suppose we can have a shootout with Chargers but a lot is going waiver what we get in the draft if we revamp our D line and have fresh young brutes up front we can win the trenches. Win the trenches is what i think Vlunch is working on.


We have not had a losing record since Andy Reid got here and all of a sudden everyone is freaking the **** out. 5th most winning-est HC in the NFL history.

You're writing the future off history. Too much has changed to know anything at this point. But this season is more wide-open, with all AFC having legit shot. Certainly AFCW.

Any of them could have something blow up on them and destroy their shot. But to count on it because history is pollyannish.

Division is still theirs to lose.

I’d be willing to bet that their pick in the first next year was on the table and we opted to take a second rounder and the fourth this year instead.

I’m fine with the draft pick compensation. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see us move back into the second round from one of their picks in the first to stockpile another pick in the late third or early fourth. That’s a JUICY part of this draft.

On paper, yes, Chiefs are near the bottom.

But the Chiefs also have the best coach and best QB in the division. That’s a significant advantage to have and tilts the scales in their favor.

I still like the Chiefs chances as much as any other team in the division.

I'm liking the trade more and more because holy shit we can score 3 o 4 guys just from his trade that can be starters and make an impact.

Edge rusher two beefy D line a WR and work the defense on CB Safety get another swing tackle and man this is going work out in the long run if Chiefs fans can be patient in developing these guys. Like last year we started out slow and won the division. I think our offense is actually going take off and Hardman and CEH are going have to step it up and I think they both will. This offensive line is too good not to have success whoever runs the ball.

I'm stoked. Thank You Tyreek for all you have done for us except the tipped interceptions but you scored big money and we got a haul in draft picks. Both sides should be happy.

Chiefs were not in the position to pay Reek that kind of money. Veech got a haul for him and set up Mahomes for the 2nd act of his career.

Awesome trade for the Chiefs.

It's more about the eye for the talent than the spot, I have been so used to wasted 1st rounders for so long I guess I assume everybody picks bad LMAO

Reid/Mahomes overcome any weaknesses in the roster.


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Nope.

Disagree. Reek was under contract for this year. You just walk away and revisit this next year. Hell, maybe even tag him..

Stupid trade for the Chiefs

I can't believe babbly lee immediately thought about how this relates to TV shows.
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Hey! Ease up on the vitriol, . . emotions are tender at the moment.

Next year we would have no leverage at all. Reek would be a Free Agent- why would teams give up anything when they know you can't sign him.

5 picks is a haul for a former 5th round pick.

We have picks and draft capital now thanks to Reek.

thoughts on pumpkin bread?

Where do Chiefs stand? Top of the mountain of course
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