I'm not a CEH fan at all, but to be fair, he only had that issue for part of the season last season...Jones has had issues holding on to the ball most of his career. Dude also can't catch at all.

I think half of his issues are because of Arians. Arians doesn’t seem like the kind of coach that actually coaches anyone up. He puts his system in place and if you can’t do the job he wants immediately….you’re benched. He’s not there to coach you up. He’s there to win games and that’s it.

https://youtu.be/fCd2vAwru9s

Somebody embed please!

I like RoJo, and always have. He’s obviously nothing special, but he’s a good solid back.

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Let’s go!

Also, whether it’s McKinnon or Williams, this team has done a pretty good job adding veteran FA backs the last few years.

that might be.

NFL blocks it from being embedded, so you have to use the link anyway.

So he's a Darrel Williams replacement, that cant catch, with a little more speed to maybe bounce to the outside and get to at least the LoS?

Would have rather just let CEH do the interior stuff and let McKinnon work the edge.

76 catches in 4 years, he'll fit right in.

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I fully expect the Chiefs to add a better receiving back too whether it be McKinnon, another FA, or a draft pick.

Lol he's gonna be the best back we've had since Kareem imo. All the negative comments on twitter were also SAID ABOUT JAMES CONNER when he left the Steelers for Zona..and look how he did? Same folks also said Fournette was a "bust" when he was cut from the JAGS!!. Rojo is 24 years old vet who has had 1000 yard seasons and has the weight, tackle breaking ability and speed that this offense has lacked for years. So I very much welcome the young man. Anyone thinking he's a "camp body" or merely a "Williams replacement" is in for a big surprise Imo...especially behind this line :D .

I love how some of you tell us all to trust Veach and Reid when they trade freaking Tyreek Hill, but then they sign a RB you don’t particularly care for and you call them out.

They either know what they’re doing or they don’t, you can’t have it both ways. Personally, I’ve been very impressed every time I’ve seen Jones and agree with a previous post that said Arians is likely the issue. Reid has been coaching in the NFL for 30 years. I’m pretty sure he knows exactly what he’s looking for in a RB and literally any back that has played under him has always had some of their best years.

Good signing.

Probably structured like Juju's contract

It's almost like some of you didn't see Darrel Williams do the same shit, and more often.

200 more receiving yards on almost the same amount of catches, 4X the TD's and Andy trusted him in key situations.

I feel like McKinnon was kept in a box for a reason, 3-4 games is what his body has in him. Replace him, it was was nice little run. It really was.

Jones career YPC: 4.5

Williams career YPC: 3.8

Jones is easily the better runner.

Darrel Williams is a dog shit runner. He's a better pass catcher, no doubt.

I'm looking at both Williams and Jones and then looking at those 4 7th round picks thinking take a shot on someone.

This is where EB steps in and brings the dog out of Jones.

Honestly, I’m not a fan of MVS or Jones but am willing to wait and see how it works out. Andy and Veach have earned the benefit of the doubt.

It just seems like MVS is a Hardman close with a bigger frame and Jones isn’t exciting at all. Both seem stupid.

I see people post that Jones had 1000 yard seasons but the stats I see don't bare that out. I'm not pooping on the signing but he's never rushed for 1000 yards in the NFL. I trust Andy will be able to get the best out of Jones but let's get the facts straight.

Cook

Watch Jones then watch Williams. Jones is clearly the more talented back.

I’d rather have Williams back.

Hope I’m wrong.

1000 yards from scrimmage. Including receptions.

Something CEH did as a rookie.

Really bad take.

MVS is a Hardman clone? Why because they’re both fast? This offense relies on speed. Without Tyreek, we might as well have several guys with elite speed. That’s how you make up for no Hardman.

That stats RunKC posted about 40+ yard catches tells you everything you need to know. Only Tyreek has more than MVS since 2018.

The Jones signing makes a lot of sense when you think about how this team has struggled to run the ball against light boxes. He’s going to run the football very well in this offense. They just need a better receiver to round out the RB group.

I’ve never seen a more overrated sub 4 YPC back.

This is accurate but when discussing RBs and 1000 yard seasons that's usually about rushing yards.

Gonna be a whole new team. Out with the old in with the new. I think Williams asking price might be higher then Jones

Well, the only mention of 1000 yards in this thread is a tweet that specifically says "1000 yards from scrimmage." So not sure what to tell you.

I just feel like between MVS and Jones, there's nothing there that can't be found late in the draft. MVS is just straight line speed and played with a QB that can get the ball there. Jones is a pure runner, and from that video that was posted with his 2021 plays looks to offer not much more than anything we've seen from the plethora of RBs since Hunt.

I dont care to scout the draft any more so I cant say how its stacked, but I just look at these 2 signings and wonder if it was really necessary to pay up to $14M for them.

They wouldn’t have made this move if they hadn’t missed with the CEH pick. I still think the chiefs still have a pretty average group of running backs but it should be better than last year.

LMAO

And this is what this is all about. Posters become obsessed with the draft and automatically think a 6th round pick with automatically produce.

I'm filing this one under "whatever"

Best thing I can say is Reid must see something, so... whatever

Im not obsessed with the draft. I just ****ing said that I dont care to scout the draft.

I'm looking at these 2 guys and thinking is this really what $14M looks like???

You understand that this team has a lot of holes and they aren’t just going to start and play 10 rookies, correct?

You could literally say this about any player at any position at this point of free agency. None of these guys are going to be or are supposed to be world beaters.

MVS has more 40+ yard catches than anybody not named Tyreek. That isn’t as easy to find in the draft as you make it seem, and the Chiefs need that NOW. They will absolutely draft somebody too, but that doesn’t mean that they will be ready day 1.

The cap continues to expand 14m isn't what it used to be

You might wanna see what the market is going for now.

Do you ever see something you like at the store and then want to purchase it? Then you look at the price of it and reconsider the cost and if its really worth that much?

I like Jones. He’s not perfect.. there’s a reason he was still a free agent. But he looks a lot like Kareem with the ball, and on routes

You don’t seem to understand the the Chiefs have to do some shopping either way.

They have a ton of holes to fill and they can’t all be filled through the draft. This is a numbers game.

It won’t stop them from taking 1 or maybe even 2 WRs. They had to sign one other way.

And that 5M # with Jones is incentive based. No telling what it really is.

Would you rather have Jones on a up to $5M deal for one year or Kyzir White on a up to $5M deal?

They’ve already signed 2 cheaper LBs. It’s an irrelevant question.

They choose Carter yesterday so White has no Bearing on this

It's not an irrelevant question at all.

Great pickup.

Yes, it is.

White was no longer an option before Jones was signed.

Guess we can start giving ArrowheadLive some credit around here.

I would take White but Veach obviously didn’t want him.

Not to mention we have absolutely no idea what White was asking for, so to assume that he would just accept the same deal is baseless.

We know what he signed for.

I didn’t realize that White had been signed.

Do you know that the details are the same? One might have more realistic incentives to reach than the other.

Besides, this is typical “this move sucks because it’s not what I wanted” bullshit.

This has nothing to do with what I want.

I couldn't name a single ****ing free agent beyond the ones that are former Chiefs.

This is me looking at these 2 guys and going... really???

The only reason I know Kyzir White's name is because a bunch of people were masturbating to the thought of him on the Chiefs. And then you ask yourself what is easier to find? A guy putting up White's numbers or a backup RB in the draft?

You don't need to tell me anything.

Sounds like it’s exactly what it is.

You’d prefer White, so the Jones signing is stupid.

I’d prefer White as well, but I totally understand the Jones signing, and he’s a good/solid back.

I questioned Jones before anything related to White even happened. The only reason I brought up White is because he literally just signed for the exact same incentive based $5M deal.

You keep on bringing up how the Chiefs have to shop in FA because they have a ton of holes. I'm simply questioning whether or not they are allocating the money wisely, not that they have to spend. You don't seem to understand that.

Also, how do you know that the Chiefs aren’t planning to draft a LB at some point?

This class is pretty damn good with depth into the early 4th round. Just playing with the mock simulators, I almost always take a LB at some point because the value is too good.

Wouldn’t that go with your idea that the draft is a better option than the free agent?

The offense got better today. Please shut up

How do you know that? Again, one might have more easily attainable incentives than the other.

It’s entirely possible that the only way Jones reaches his is if CEH goes down, while White himself just has to stay healthy for his as he already has the job.

Uhm, I've never seen Darrell Williams break away for a 99yd TD run. Or anything remotely like that. Same with CEH.

I don't think I've even seen either of them even get the edge.

This guy has burst that maybe only Gore was flashing some of.

We’re not running the same offense that we ran with Hill here. Might as well accept it now.

Does Jones reminded Anyone of of Kareem Hunt???

Agree. But personally, I'm not trading a 99 yard run every four years for someone who has ball security issues, can't catch the ball, and can't pass protect either.

The easiest position on the field to replace, I just find it odd we went this direction. He doesn't do anything Andy typically looks for well.

It’s not about trading a 99 yard run every 4 years. It’s about the added explosiveness for a team that couldn’t even take advantage of light boxes.

When it doesn’t make sense in terms of the passing game, it makes it obvious that it’s about his ability to simply run the football.

Another meh-tacular signing.

Sigh

I don't think we're going to have to worry about light boxes from now on.

Maybe Pest is right and it's a coaching issue - I certainly hope so because this guy is as one-dimensional as they come.

Clyde’s longest run in his career is 31 yards. Thirty one ****ing yards lmao

I’m not so sure about the light boxes thing going away. We still have Mahomes and we added another legitimate deep threat. Doesn’t mean MVS is Hill because he’s not….but there is still the threat of him going deep.

I look at Jones as more of a obvious running situation type of guy. I think CEH is going to be your 3rd down and obvious passing down RB. But I also don’t know shit….so we’ll see what happens.

Also **** Bruce Arians. That dude is a raging dickhead.

Then if that’s the case, it’s even more important that we upgrade from Mr. 3.8 YPC.

Also, I don’t buy that the light boxes are going to just go away without Tyreek. If they do, Mahomes will feast.

Second favorite signing of the off-season behind Reid.

Those of you bitching honestly do not understand the entire situation in Tampa. I've given it plenty of lip service in other posts so won't bore you guys again. Overall he is probably the best pure runner on our roster right now and will give this offense something it hasn't seen since Jamaal and arguably Kareem. Home run hitting ability.

I am 100% sure Reid and management can get him to be better as a pass catcher and pass blocker. They clearly feel this too which is why he's a Chief right now. Huge win and I think you guys will look back and realize just how badly you underrated this guy.

I don’t think he’s going to be used to protect Mahomes. That’s Clyde’s job now.

Go listen to the universal complaints about MVS from GB fans.

Runs wrong routes
Frustrates Rodgers by quitting on routes

Sound familiar?

Generally agree. But I'd like to see them give him some snaps here and there otherwise the defense will cheat. Either way I think Rojo will prove a lot of doubters wrong in KC.

Clyde becomes our 3rd down back..IMO.

Run him and Hardman deep on every play - they can each run the other's wrong route and one of them will be where Mahomes expects. :thumb:

Universal? LMAO

You saw that one tweet that said that and you’re running with it.

I went to a Packers forum after we signed him and I didn’t see a single fan say that.

In the AFFCG Tyreek had 10 targets 7 receptions 1 touchdown long 33yards with 78 yards receiving. Also got shut out before half time also aloud defenders to take the ball away from him for an interception in overtime.


Hardman 4 targets 3 receptions 1 touchdown long 44 yards total 52 yards + 2 rushing attempts for 18 yards. Hardman had just as many touchdowns and 8 fewere yards on less targets as Tyreek Hill. Also Hardman was open in the second half thus the riff on the sidelines saying hay get me the ball but he conceded to Tyreek because Tyreek is the man. Tyreek is the man that couldn't out leap the defender and gave up an interception for Patrick Mahomes because GOD DAMMT got to chuck it to Tyreek at any cost. Don't blame Hardman for costing the AFCCG but you can blame Tryeek and Mahomes.

Throughout the season Tyreek tipped the ball into defenders hands but that's ok it's Tyreek ****ing Hill the "Best WR in NFL" now he gets the money. He played like a JAG in the AFCCG.

Dog Hardman he had a touchdown first half and was open but over looked because Patrick had a hardon for Tyreek and forced it to Tyreek. When Tyreek is out of the lineup his 5 games we cruised with 30 points a game because Patrick spread the ball around.

Also Mahomes has gone back to Hardman i think the narrative that Mahomes is always mad at Hardman is a false narrative, just like the EB false narrative.


I can't say Hardman is going win the #1 spot I want the best man to win it so I just root for good competition for TC and PS I'll be happy with whoever wins it. I'll be stoked to see Hardman make plays because he has come in clutch for this team more times than he is given credit too and his mistakes have been amplified because he doesn't get more opportunities to make up for them like Tyreek Hill did. ****ing come on Tyreek gave up the ball in overtime that's on him and Patrick.

I like Rojo. Very good move.

I am a doubter...So now Reid has 3-4 RB's that he won't use.

I didn't know much about this Kat but he looks legit - for 1000 apy every year id take it

A negative times a negative is a positive, however two wrongs don’t make a right.

Not sure how this would work out.