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Jerick McKinnon returns to KC on a 1-year deal
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=344143)
Go back and watch the super bowl win, and tell me Damien Williams wouldn't be the best back on this team
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So he wasn't dead last - that 'honor' went to Mike Davis at -.76 YPC vs. expected.
But at -.48 YPC vs. his expected value, Williams was AWFUL. Clyde was in the Najee Harris, Sony Michel, David Montgomery, Zeke Elliott, Khalil Herbert range of merely being disappoinging (-.16; same figure as Harris). Jones was at -.02 in his own right. Bottom line is that the closes thing the Chiefs have on their roster to an above average RB is still likely to be Jerick McKinnon. The rest of these guys are JAGS or worse. |
Not looking good for CP hero AL Gore he's going to be the odd man out
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But as I said when we let him walk - the need to dump on Williams to justify the pick of CEH was bothersome to me. Williams was a very good player here who provided an element that was sorely needed last season - speed to the edge and broken field running. I'm not sure he'd STILL be an upgrade over anybody we have here, but he would've been last year, yes. |
Ugh - 72% of MEH's carries came with light fronts (6 or fewer in the box) and he generated 4.7 YPC in those situations.
Against base packages - 3.2 YPC Stacked - 2.3 YPC Clyde really did suck last season despite a lot of things in his favor. And despite all that, Williams was still worse. 4.2 YPC against light boxes, 3.4 against base anda staggeringly awful 1.5 YPC against heavy fronts. But again, average defenders in the box of 6.2 on the season (so light fronts on average) and still couldn't break 4 yards per carry even with elite run blocking in front of him. The RB room was embarrassing last year and potentially not much better this year. |
I must have completely deleted Kareem Hunt from my memory.
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Useful.
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You've got to be really shitty to avg less than 4.5 ypc in an Andy Reid pass heavy offense with defenses shitting their pants afraid of Patrick Mahomes. Anytime the Chiefs run the other team is like oh shit we didnt expect that. |
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Still couldn't manage 4 YPC. Darrel Williams is awful. |
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I still can't figure out why we let Damien Williams walk..
Were we really that confident in the RB room after seeing a full season of CEH and Darrel Williams? 'Cause ain't no ****ing way lol.. |
The #Chiefs 2022 RB room currently consists of:
- Clyde Edwards-Helaire - Ronald Jones II - Jerick McKinnon - Derrick Gore - Isiah Pacheco - Jerrion Ealy - Tayon Fleet-Davis Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
he looked good in the playoffs
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But we went up to the mountains for Memorial Day and ended up watching a bunch of old Chiefs games on youtube. Man... Williams was far better than CEH, and Hunt was far better than Williams. It's sad that we invested a first round pick in RB and it's still a weakness. Love the strategy, hate the execution. |
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I just hope the chiefs demand legit rb competition for the #1 RB. It shouldn’t be CEHs job to lose. It should be his to earn. Shelve McKinnon for much of the season and use him as a third down back. Keep Pacheco on the PS. Force jones and ceh to earn their touches and assume 50/50 in the beginning.
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Super duper.
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There’s a chance, Ealey may be the most useful, explosive back on the roster.
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Remember the offseason of Darwin Thompson's rookie year? When he had the talent and speed to be our starting RB?
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Keep doubting Jesse Haynes!
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Translation: Coaches have seen our RB stable, and agree that it sucks.
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And btw this move is no surprise shen you consider that Clyde has been hurt in the last two seasons making him miss around 14 games combined. So getting JM back gives us great depth.
Clyde Rojo Pacheco Jm Is what I'd expect to see unless Ealy has a monster camp and shines in the preseason games to make a case to make the roster. Gore is not getting detached by anyone else so can easy be placed on the practice squad imo. |
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Catch the ball, find holes, don't fumble. That's all I expect. |
Good signing for KC
1. Familiar with Chiefs playbook and KC coaches know what he can do. 2. I assume it was a cheap 1-year contract and could be cut if younger RBs are better. 3. NFL teams need RBs and injuries will happen. - Clyde Edwards-Helaire - 2021 10 games (Pedal Ankle Sprain Grade 2, Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2), 2020 13 games (Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3, Inguinal Hip Strain) 95% chance of injury for 2022 - https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/...-helaire/10495 |
Holy shit! Thank you! :thumb:
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This pleases me.
Now just stay available all season. Please. Pretty please. |
I'm happy McKinnon is back but I'd trade all 6 RB's in our committee for 1 legit Star RB.
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cool can't wait to watch Andy 'go away' from him while he's gaining 8 yards per play.
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What those final RB spots come down to is who's better on ST IIRC McKinnon played some last year. What can Pinocho and Ealy do? Ealy looked like a great fit for the old offense we ran don't know how much of that we are changing. With the line we have and guys we have at RB a power run game makes sense.
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I think we have to hit the brakes on who's RB1, who gets cut, etc. until training camp. OTAs don't mean much and I doubt we'll get a lot of insight in the upcoming minicamp. |
I was just thinking yesterday about why he hadn't been resigned...thought it was strange as he was great down the stretch.
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It's also a prime reason why you don't draft RBs in the first round. You can find guys like this every year everywhere.
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I don’t get the CEH love, dude has sucked, does suck and always will suck.
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I'm willing to forget all that and see what he does this season based on nothing else than the fact he had to deal with gallbladder removal. No more excuses no that he's healed up completely, time to go show it. |
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Start him. |
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He was.....just better than anyone we had. Pretty clearly. Damn man, he was so good down the stretch and in the playoffs. This OL is really ****ing good, just taking whats blocked up should put you in the 800-1000 yard rushing territory, plus with the screen game etc. Clyde was injured, etc etc whatever. But god damn he was awful last year. |
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1. He's the only RB on the roster I trust to make a guy miss in the open field. Throwing to him in the flat is damn near an automatic 1st down. 2. He missed an epic cutback opportunity on the screen around the :55 second mark 3. He needs to learn to just run out of bounds. There were a handful of situations there where he got good yardage or the 1st down, running along the sideline, then chooses to lower his shoulder rather than stepping out. It's a small thing but he's too small to be doling out punishment. I think he'd be better served just saving the mileage. 4. Google says this ****er is 5'9" 216 lbs. Does anyone else think that's a crock of shit? I was thinking dude was 5'8" 185 lol |
Agree with all of that.
Would add: Our offense was at its best when he was playing. Seriously was a huge difference maker. I don't understand how anyone could be against this move. |
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Official Measurements from 2014 Senior Bowl RB McKinnon, Jerick Georgia Southern 5'9" 209 pounds 8 3/8" hand. 29 1/2 arm From 2014 NFL Combine 5 ft 8 7/8, 209 pounds, 8 5/8 hand, 4.41 40-yard dash, 40.5 vertical, 32 bench press It is possible for him to have lost some weight, but his 32 bench press at combine tells you he is pretty solid. I think he is pretty much solid muscle so he has the weight, but does not look that heavy. Jerick is a good add for the roster. I think the only issue with McKinnon, he needs to stay healthy. |
He was by far the best back on the roster last year, but I still think the new additions should get a chance to show what they got. Anything is better than Darrel Williams though.
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Wow, that is weird. Looks like McKinnon is almost exactly the same size as Mark Ingram, who appears so much stockier, IMO. Crazy.. |
Chiefs waive Center Darryl Williams at the same time they signed McKinnon and signed WR Skyy Moore.
https://www.chiefs.com/team/transactions/ |
who the **** is Jack Mcinney?
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Could not resist. Please explain the question. |
Looks like Pacheco will be the returner? I guess Pacheco and ealy didn’t impress? Maybe they can’t grasp the playbook? I like McKinnon and hope he starts.
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Best RB on the depth chart last year
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He runs with a purpose and isn’t afraid to hit a hole.
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AWESOME! Hope they cut CHE
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The amount of competition in our backfield is going to bring out the absolute best in all these guys. Say what you will about each player's flaws but our overall talent at RB is at a level it hasn't been since we had Hunt and Ware bulldozing MF'ers all over the field.
Pretty clear Veach and Reid have decided that throwing numbers at the RB and WR position is the way to go, and I fully agree. Get a bunch of talented guys out there and see who wants it the most. You know Andy and Mahomes are going to make it work. |
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CEH could still turn into the player we all expected, and Ronald Jones is still only 24 and has shown plenty of flashes. I'd prefer to have a proven workhorse too, but clearly this is how Veach and Reid want to roll and I'll just trust them until proven otherwise. I see the logic of what they're doing and it could really go either way. |
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This RB room is honestly not so bad, all things considered, if you remove CEH.
We’ve got McKinnon, who has proven in limited time to be a real weapon in this offense. He was a FA and is on a minimal deal. We’ve got the reclamation project in RoJo. He’s a bum but he’s exactly the type of guy good franchises take a flyer on. We didn’t spend much to bring him in. We’ve got the rookies to develop. We’re better served spending our cap space on literally any position on offense other than RB. |
Which is kind of weird because the organization has done a lot of shit I don’t like at RB.
First of all, I never would have gotten rid of Kareem Hunt. **** all the “he lied to us” shit. I wouldn’t have drafted CEH and I wouldn’t have let Damien Williams go. Outside of those situations, they’re generally not spending resources on RB, which I love. Just churn and burn these guys. We can make trash RBs and Darrel Williams and CEH look decent anyway. |
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1)Taylor 2)Dobbins :shrug: 3)Akers I thought we'd take a RB but CEH wasn't really even on my radar. Watched less tape on him than any of the others. Quote:
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It's a damned shame - Mahomes, Hill, Kelce, and Hunt all in their primes and wrecking defenses would have been so much fun to watch for years on end. But, we're still doing ok I'd say. Lol |
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I don't follow college ball so I can't speak much about pre-draft grades. In the Chiefs' defense, I remember the reception to the pick being generally "Oh, shit. I can't believe the rest of the league let KC get this guy. I was a little peeved that we even drafted a RB in the 1st though. Quote:
Right. I can't be too upset because we did get that championship in 2019, but it's hard to imagine a world in which we keep Hunt and we don't still win that chip and also have a much better shot at winning the ones in 2020 and 2021. |
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