After thinking about this, it seems the big problem is rifling and bullet spin over that range. I can only imagine that the bullet is like an unpredictable knuckle ball after its initial energy dissipates.

This "record" is complete bullshit.

There is no way that little gun can produce the incredible energy and bullet spin to hit a target 4.4 miles away.

These guys are liars and cheats. I guess they're getting their 15 minutes of fame.

Like the fishing tournament where they stuffed their catch with lead sinkers and cut up fish.

I suppose it was possible but they used a bunch of spotters with the long-distance shooting association who monitors it all. The old world record was 4 miles done in Texas in heat and humidity. These fellows broke in in Wyoming at elevations of 7000 feet above sea level they even admit the Texans had tougher conditions.

Did they clamp the rifle into place? I find it hard to believe they used a prone/bipod or even bench arrangement.

If It's clamped into place, it basically turns into a small human operated artillery piece. Walk the shots in with radio support and pray for the perfect, lucky shot.

With 24.5 seconds of free fall to account for, how high above the target did they have to aim? (You know, cause vectors operate independently of each other and all that physics crap).

A buddy of mine who is a retired JTF-2 said it took about 9 seconds bullet travel if I remember correctly for the longest recorded kill which was around 3500m , 24s would seem long I guess but that math is way beyond me . Still cool stuff even for non gun enthusiasts like me , my BIL had a chance to shoot his work gun , just not on full auto but still cool.

I seen't it

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Forgot to plug my friends YouTube

Direct action combat performance inc. Randy Turner

He has shooting /H2h vids he is also retired MMA fighter nicest dude you will ever meet but don’t flip his switch lol even at like 5’6 I wouldn’t mess with him , he specializes in knives too .

2500ft

Never mind. you were probably looking for mils. I don't know about that one.

The gear

Cartridge: .416 Barrett
Bullet: Cutting Edge MTAC 422-grain
Stock: Cadex Dual Strike Chassis
Barrel: LRI 40-inch barrel with 1:9 twist that was “structured” by tacomHQ
Action: McMillian TAC50
Trigger: Timney
Muzzle brake: Terminator T6
Bipod: LRA
Scope Mount: Custom 350 MOA mount by S&S Sporting
Cheek Piece: Custom by S&S Sporting
Scope: Vortex Razor 6-35×56 FFP with EBR-7D MOA reticle
Rings: Double set of Leupold Mark IV Support optics: Delta and a Charlie TARAC from tacomHQ

The barrel is pretty amazing Humphreys said it never heated up with all the shots its highest temperature was 88F.

These guys have held the WW twice their first was 3.3 miles broken by the Texan group at 4 miles on the 69th shot. Coincidence that the Humphrey group WW was on the 69th shot also.

Outdoor Life article

https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/new...st-rifle-shot/

Agreed completely. To that end. There are about 15 people in this thread who can shoot better than these guys (and other than you, I’m the only one in this thread who CANNOT shoot better than them).

I had no idea CP had a bunch of Chuck Mawhinney’s and Ethan Places’s. This is the epicenter for badass shooters.

At what point would it be considered a strikeout and you lose? They took 69 shots to hit the target.

Give me a powerful enough gun and I can hit a target at 20 miles. It might take me 10 million tries to do it, but eventually one will hit and then I'll be the world record holder. If you're allowed to shoot until you hit it, eventually you're going to hit it.

To me? The first shot is the only one what matters. That’s real world. In the safety of a range, a beginner shooter can hit a target at X range with unlimited ammo. But the CP badasses will tell you it’s super easy to hit a stationary or moving target at any range. It’s not.

That's where I stand. The record should be the longest distance hit in one shot. Or maybe you can have different categories for first shot, second shot, and third shot. But you shouldn't have a category for 69th shot.

Completely agree. There are diminishing returns for follow in shots real world. Anything after 3 a good team is E and E to their DAR site.

I don't know what you all aren't getting here. This was over 4 miles even the shooters said the is a lot of calculations and luck. They say its really not repeatable maybe someday yes but we aren't there yet. They have to rely on spotters down range to tell them how far off windage and elevation and calculate and try again. It's as they said like lobbing an artillery shell into a golf hole.

I could go to my favorite 150 par 3 golf hole with a pickup bed full of golf balls and still never get a hole in one. Some luck is involved.

For sure. And you’re right. Everything you say is right.

My issue is the CP badasses dick measuring about how easy it is to shoot at any range, regardless of the situation. Claims like “yeah I hit 1000+ shots all the time!” Maybe they do but I’ve walked plenty of trigger pullers on target at that range. It’s not an accomplishment. I wish I could do it 100% of the time, and competition shooters much better than me wish they could too.

The small dick vibe in this thread is palpable. “Yeah I hit a that all the time.” Lol

That bullet descended at a 48-degree angle. That's a pretty steep angle so its really a crap shoot to hit a 7'x9' target.

While I am not claiming to be some badass shooter. I'm just a recreational shooter who never shoots as much as I would like. I enjoy a lot of different types of shooting sports. I am especially intrigued by long distance precision shooting.

I took a class that taught us how to use a log book and record our shots. I have my rig doped for conditions on those days from 200-1000 yds. in 100 yd. increments giving me a rough idea of elevation and windage adjustments for those ranges and environmental conditions.

I used to shoot somewhat regularly at a range on the Pala Indian reservation north of San Diego. They had fixed targets at various ranges out to the longest at 887 yards. My log book has a lot of those targets doped for various weather conditions. And of course 600 yds in Montana is Different than 600 yards in San Diego.

You're right I wasn't always on target first shot, sometimes I was sometimes I wasn't. Different temperatures, humidity and wind and my own inconsistencies play into it. I almost always recorded temperature and humidity and log it in my book. I take wind readings at the firing line and when able at the target line. Those were not always the same. I shoot the same Black Hills .308 175 Gr. Match Grade ammo through my rifle.

For me it is an accomplishment to put a round on target whether it takes one shot or several. I shoot for fun. I am not a Team Sniper so its not life or death for me to make a shot. But I have enough data to make things somewhat repeatable and bring me joy when I hear the ring of hitting steal and seeing the smudge of impact.

I've read every post in this thread and have no idea how you have come to that conclusion based on what's been said. You seem to be pushing a narrative you want to believe which is only you think you know what you are talking about.


If anyone comes across as a know it all little dick poster in this thread its 100% you.

Damned amazing. The elevation adjustment is insane. I wonder how flat the terrain is where that shot was made.

This is America people!!
Not sure why this is so hard to believe?

On April 19th 1775 a shot was taken and that shot was heard around the world.

Little Dick Syndrome

If someone tougher than me ever challenges me to a duel, I will choose to duel with rifles at a range of 4.4 miles. It brings my odds of winning up to 50 percent.