Yes. Becoming more and more concerned by the week actually.

You were stroking Kilnnsman's dick when he had Hertha circling the drain don't act like you are above a team in a slump. :)

You're such a low rate, low IQ American soccer fan.

Klinnsmann was the first player to score at three goals in three consecutive World Cups. Who the **** are you?

He just got named South Korean manager.

He's soccer royalty. Get the **** out of here with your bullshit nonsense.

I know you get really emotional when I point out all of Klinnsman's failures. Could not even hack it with a low expectations Bundesliga team. Oh he is the South Korean manage? *extreme wanking motion*

LMAO

Do you get emotional talking about Vermes failures or do you just refuse to talk about them? Are you as upset about the timing of the extension as the rest of us Sporting fans? I feel like the cauldron really should be voicing their displeasure more to let ownership know we’re not happy. We need a Save Sporting movement like we had a Save our Chiefs movement and continuing to just bang the drum and sing the same old chants won’t let ownership know we’re tired of the failures. The fans need to start speaking up or we’re about to get stuck in years of mediocrity.

Bad start no doubt. I don't think you speak for all SKC fans that is weird of you to pretend.

Nobody is stopping you from staging any kind of protest to wish to stage....go on King.

I think the rest of the season would have to go poor for me to be there. Some of our best players are injured. And hey the results are what they are but for what you are describing we would have to be bad with the squad we built on the field and that simply is not the case right now.

No real defense of the season so far but a few players in soccer make a big difference. It is a long game.

That's a shame. I used to follow them in their inaugural years. I think SKC was pretty good then?

Were they? You were following them!

Oh, I’m definitely planning some protests this year for sure. I think if you follow Sporting KC on Twitter you’d know most of the fans voice the same displeasure as I do.

“We’re all part of Vermes army,
We all want to win the league,
But we’ve only done it once,
Why extend the ****ing dunce,
Fire Peter and save our ****ing team.”

Oh, you think twitter is real life?

If you think places like Chiefs Planet, reddit, and Twitter are representative of fan base sentiment that simply is not the case. And hey I love all those places but you have to know the demographics.

Do your thing man...it has been an annoying season so far.

The thing that’s most annoying is that Peter can be a good coach if he has EVERY piece he needs to run his system. The issue is that when one thing goes wrong he cannot make any sort of adjustments to fit a scheme to the players he has available. Instead he tries to fit square pegs in round holes and run his system with players that just can’t. In a league that you have admitted will have some holes and weaknesses on the rosters I think it would be better to get a coach that can adjust his system instead of trying to force things when they aren’t working. I understand that we will get better with Agada and Pulido back, but seeing what he does without them and how completely inept we become at finishing when he doesn’t have the players to fit his scheme is reason enough for me to move on.

I don’t see why we don’t play Pierre at RB and move Zusi up to RW while Russell is out. Zusi is our best crosser and Shelton just brings absolutely nothing to the team.

Don't forget JFR back as well. Those are massive pieces.

I think he has done better changing the object he is cramming the holes into. There has been a ton of change in style over the years I mean hey we used to be known for brute force and athleticism and only scoring on set pieces then fouling you a bunch of times. We do like...none of that now.

The defense is playing so much better than last year and if we can get healthy and get some rhythm up front this whole thing changes pretty quickly. We will see. Certainly not super excited to play Seattle.

I get where you are coming from but its like hey man...this really is not a league where you can lose a bunch of people up front and still be good with the way the cap hampers you. It all sucks but here we are.

If I’m being completely honest I wasn’t as adamant about the fire Vermes thing until we actually made the extension. I just thought the timing of all of it sucked. I get that the rumors of the USMNT job probably played a part in it, but it just seemed like this should have been more of a make or break season for Vermes and the timing of his contract running out after the season was perfect to let that play out. Instead we sign him to a 5 year extension. The timing of it all is the part that pisses me off the most about it.

I actually flew down to Dallas this weekend and the main point of the trip was to go to the game last night, but my friend and I just didn’t even want to go with all of the other sports on. It’s just not a fun product to watch right now with our 3 best players out. Hopefully we get them back soon and can get on a roll like you’re saying. I just hate these slow starts. Especially when St Louis is trolling us on Twitter about it now.

St. Louis is riding the wave of being new. Major League Soccer comes for everyone eventually. It is a lot more interesting to see what these new fan bases in year 3 and 5 etc.

They can talk all the shit they want about their history. Truth is Kansas City has been here building the domestic league and doing more for US Soccer than all of their talk.

Couldn't hack it with a low expectations Bundesliga team? You know he only got 10 matches, right? You can't put that all on a manager. That's a dysfunctional operation to begin with.

Klinnsmann gave USMNT some of its finest moments in 2014. Be grateful for what he did.

He got fired.

Just like he got fired when he let CONCACAF own the United States.

He is such royalty that 3 years went by and nobody wanted him to coach their team because he is garbage.

Is he paying you to suck his dick on the internet?

Around 2011 so quite a while ago not. I forgot they won the final in 2013!

SKC, the Royals and the Chiefs all in a few years. How good.

How many different positions does Vermes hold with the team? I know he's more than just the manager.

He stepped down. So now you're lying to make a point?

Suck his dick? That is a homophobic, gay shaming remark. Your liberal friends would cancel you.

Good lord. I am an SKC fan yet will continue to stay away from this thread because of Zach. What a colossally self-absorbed prick. JFC.

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Dude. SKC has been bad for a few years now.

Last years run at the end made it look better than it was but last year was atrocious.

This roster needs an overhaul. Now.

Alan Pulido (32 years Old) cost almost $10m. 4th year. Dude has played 33 games. 14 goals, almost a million per goal.

Espinoza 36
Zusi 36
Meliá 36

Wasting Russell’s good years right now.

Can someone tell me why Shelton is on this team… 61 games in the last 3 years. 5 goals, 3 assists … WTF.

We are relying on old and injured players to carry us. The league has moved on. We need to adapt.

We have some quality on the team, but we need to bring in better pieces.

It looks like I'm going to my first ever Sporting game on the 8th. Whoo!

It is a great experience.....
Prepare to be disappointed by our shitty Manager and a team that has 1 goal in 4 games.

Home game against Seattle tonight. They have a lot of absence but will be tough with the form we have had to start the season. Perfect evening for a game though.

Both Pulido and Russell on the bench which is promising.

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LMAO

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Nice work getting them ready Peter!!!!

Shambles

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shoutout to this brave soul in 132 for bringing the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VermesOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VermesOut</a> sign to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SportingKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SportingKC</a> game tonight. This was taken moments after former SKC striker SKC Diego Rubio put one in for the Rapids. JFC. <a href="https://t.co/0qLR3RufIs">pic.twitter.com/0qLR3RufIs</a></p>&mdash; SKC LB Option #7 Jeff (@Jeff_CCTuba) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeff_CCTuba/status/1644886659580964864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Sporting Revolution is beginning. Make your signs, sing your discontent, let your anger be heard. Vermes Out!!!

I'll be honest, I was at the game but don't remember a thing about it.

Vermes is the issue and has been for several years.

Just doing my part to get woman has sex with dog off the front page

Bad!

I want to boycott watching SKC until Vermes is fired, however, their games are not televised anymore anyway.

Shit product with a shit coach. The funniest part is they extended the shit coach.

Man. Vermes needs to stick to one thing. He can’t do all the responsibilities and coach everything. This is what happens when you give one man full control of an organization.

They need to either tell him to concentrate on one side of the org and allow new blood and new ideas working with someone or just coach and let others bring in the talent.

I don’t think Vermes is bad, I just think he has too much on his plate and he’s becoming stale being the be all in the org.

Zero wins in nine matches!

If they were in the EPL, they would be getting relegated!

Only winless team out of all 29, sheesh.

It feels like there's 9 teams too many in the MLS.

Last time I watched MLS I swear there were at least ten fewer teams.

It's worse than you think it is. He is not only in charge of everything for SportingKC but also the director for Sporting II and for the Sporting Blue Valley youth club.

He is waaaay over extended.

The good news, they can score against a club team.

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Welp. It just gets worse.

https://theathletic.com/4476060/2023...andon-donovan/

Tough times in Kansas City
MLS has featured some truly dreadful teams over the years.

D.C. United won a total of three games in 2013, scoring just 22 goals across 34 games and getting shut out 17 times. They scored more own goals (4) than their leading scorer knocked in against the opposition (3). Chivas USA’s inaugural season in 2005 was only marginally better, as the expansion team cycled through three head coaches and won just one of their first 17 matches. In 2001, the Tampa Bay Mutiny were so bad that the team packed up shop and folded after the season ended.

It’s been a while, though, since we’ve seen a team as bad as Sporting Kansas City. Their shocking 2-0 loss to fellow doormat CF Montreal on Saturday extended their winless streak to 10, the longest such streak to start a season in MLS history.

Statistically, Sporting are right up there (down there?) with the worst in league history. They’ve scored three goals across their first 10 matches, an all-time low in MLS history, and they’ve racked up just as many red cards during that span. Their only win across all competitions this year came against an NPSL team (Tulsa Athletic) in the Open Cup. Things won’t get any easier, either: SKC gets Seattle and LAFC in the coming weeks.

It wasn’t supposed to unfold like this. Sporting finished strong last year after integrating striker Willy Agada and midfielder Erik Thommy in the summer window. The return of designated player Alan Pulido also should’ve provided a shot in the arm to the club, but Pulido has continued to look understandably rusty after over a year off the pitch due to knee injuries and fellow designated player Gadi Kinda has only recently started getting minutes after his own season-long injury.

It’s not like Sporting is getting run over this season — on Saturday, for example, they outshot and out possessed Montreal. According to Trumedia, SKC owns the highest final third pass completion percentage in the league…but also the fifth-lowest total of expected assists (7.08, alongside the lowest number of actual assists, with one). By and large, the squad’s failing is that it has largely been bereft of ideas in the final third, mostly managing to string together a series of half-chances.

All the analysis in the world, though, can’t sum up Sporting’s fate quite as well as winger Johnny Russell did on Saturday.

“I don’t know how you fix it,” Russell told reporters after the match. “I’m going to be completely honest. We just don’t look anything like the team that we were. I don’t know. I genuinely don’t know how you fix it.”


The club’s fans are understandably upset right now, and on Saturday, a contingent of supporters made their voices heard, chanting “Vermes out.” It is not the first time this year they’ve done so.


Sporting director / manager Peter Vermes is by all accounts a club legend. In 16 years as a player and manager with the club, he has won MLS Cup twice, hoisted the U.S. Open Cup a pair of times and won a trio of Supporters’ Shields. He is a member of the U.S. Soccer Hall of Fame, played in a pair of World Cups and for many years has been considered among the league’s elite coaches and sporting directors. Just this year, Vermes was connected with the U.S. men’s national team coaching vacancy.

That C.V. likely affords Vermes a longer leash than most in terms of job security. Already the league’s longest-serving manager, Vermes signed a five-year contract extension in February which will theoretically keep him in Kansas City through 2028. But the bar is high at Sporting, which has long been considered one of the league’s small-market success stories.

Vermes himself did not hide from criticism after Saturday’s loss. Asked whether he felt his job was in danger after this year’s start, he was typically blunt.

“The first day when you enter into this business, you know that your job is always at stake,” said Vermes. “It’s the way it is. I’ve always known that. I have never thought differently in any of the time I’ve been here.” – Pablo Maurer

Somehow...someway...they go to Seattle and win 2-1. Some nervy moments at the end but they totally dominated the first half and did enough to hold on in the second.

First time they had all their DP's on the field at the same time in a long time and they were a lot more dynamic on offense.

So, they finally get one and its on the road against one of the best teams in the league. LMAO

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Held scoreless tonight playing with an extra man for the final 60 minutes to get eliminated from the Open Cup. I mean… It’s gotta be time. I know you’re a little more in tune with the organization Zach. What do you think the chances are of moving on from Peter at this point. The fans are obviously becoming more and more disgusted by the day. The cauldron put out their SOS letter to ownership essentially, but I still haven’t seen any response. It’s becoming an embarrassment at this point. Is ownership even paying attention? Did they completely screw themselves with guaranteed money or something with the terrible contract extension?

On the plus side, at least rumors never panned out and Peter stayed away from the USMNT. I’m just trying to find the silver lining to that contract extension at this point…:sulk:

That was a pitiful showing to be sure, but the lineup itself was indicative of how little PV seemed to care. I mean, you’d think that we’d maybe consider starting a strong starting XI for Open Cup matches in a year that we’re dead last in the MLS, but what do I know.

Anyway, the Star just put out an interview with Illig either today or yesterday; long story short, illig thinks PV is still that guy and hasn’t lost the locker room. Says they’ll never rule out moving on though, but I find that hard to believe.

Vermes is THE reason Sporting is as bad as they are. This team will not be relevant until he is replaced which will not happen anytime soon.

He did do a great job conning the tax payers to build a training facility that will never be used for what they said it would be.

I know this is an older post and there have been good results since. The tea leaves seem to be pointing that the ownership has considered a change but chose not to because they want to see how the team plays healthy alluding to the idea that PV has not had a full deck and things they can be good when they do.

The extension really made this complicated.

Last night was fun. Jake Davis has come on and been fantastic these last two games solidifying his spot. Radoja was everywhere....very strong in midfield the defense did not have to run around with its hair on fire all day. Offense moving a lot better.

I don't know what this team is yet but they are more fun with their good players out there.

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Does anybody resent Preki for being an assistant on the Seattle Sounders?

Preki tried to single handedly fight our entire technical staff after the Seattle win I have no idea why

Preki is an ass. When he played for the KC Wizards he was a coach for a local youth club. He assaulted a young teenage referee.

Amazing skill with the ball on his foot but as a human he is trash.

Alan Pulido and Gadi Kinda are both so good at finding a good pass and placing the pass at the feet of the teammate.

Alan Pulido seems like the best SKC player ever at hold up play.

Really nice result on the road vs the best team in the league and they almost stole it in the end.

They have really turned things around it is pretty wild.

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That graphic makes it look 0 to 0

#ROADDRON

First MLS matchup between Kansas City and St. Louis this weekend.

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I’m going to get in so many fights.

Worst thing to happen to MLS is a team in STL. That city is trash. Their soccer is even worse.

**** Slobo Ilijevski!

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Your city’s claim to fame is a National Monument that essentially says to keep going. **** St. Louis. Let’s not **** this one up. I want an ass whooping.

2 goals off of 2 terrible non calls that gave STL possession. Such ****ing trash.

This Ref is ass. Bullshit call on the PK and the non-call on Kinda that led to the 2nd goal was BS.


Then he Yellows Saolloi for doing exactly what they did to Kinda that was a non-call.

I understand that St Louis is still essentially a USL team with that roster and they’re still trying to grow a fan base, but the MLS could be a little more discreet than this if they’re going to fix the game. Those 2 non calls were ridiculous. It’s time to unleash Espinoza on them if they want to “let them play”

And listening to Bukaty is like listening to someone rub 2 pieces of styrofoam together


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2 handballs on STL not called but get SKC. When they do it


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JFC. And another non-call that should be a yellow


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That should be a ****ing red card JFC this Ref has money on STL


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You know what to do Roger. Time to make this the best rivalry in the MLS. Sweep the ****ing leg.

First game against STL and Bukaty has used the word rivalry probably 50 times


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If I never hear Nate Bukaty call another game it will be to soon


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I mean, I know we are super excited about the turnaround lately and the fire vermes crowd is cooling... but being the 4th worst team in the MLS right now with an extra game played, really doesn't change the fact of where we are at. This reminds of last years end of season run that made us look better than we really were, which has been bottom of the table. I still want to see a change in Vermes duties. (less)

Happy Messi is coming to MLS, I hate Inter Milan less than PSG. I will buy that Jersey. I will make Miami trips to go see him play.

Why is no other outlet reporting this?

I am so sick of that phrase. Thanks Lebron :rolleyes:

Tons of outlets are reporting it.

It's a secret. Don't tell anybody.

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Does this mean SKC can still get Ronaldo?

Now I am starting to see some stuff.