Nah, Murray is a joke.

Payton will either want to draft HIS guy or go to a team with a QB already in place.

Chargers make a ton of sense.

NO THEY DON'T. STOP SAYING IT.

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Chargers would be legit scary with Payton.

I think our best hope is Spanos has a bad name and would scare off Payton.

The Spanos family isn't paying Sean Payton. There's just no chance.

Is young Drew Brees coming with him? If not we've seen this story play out dozens of times before.

A lot of people say Frank Reich is going to wind up coaching again. Not sure if he would fit in AZ.

Adios Kliff

Uh oh...another better coaching destination than Denver opens

Whoever signs Payton, will have to trade a 1st is what the rumor is. That's alot to ask fro if you're AZ and have a top 4 pick in a good draft. There's no coach that's worth that much-short of a young Belicheat or a young Andy.

Better than Denver.

Who says using draft picks is required?

This AZ job is pretty appealing, a little better than the Texans, better than the Colts and miles ahead of Deadver

Arizona’s QB situation is a dumpster fire.

Not really and better than the Colts, Denver, Texans, Jets, Falcons.

Kyler might not play till Thanksgiving.......

Honestly I think the Texans job might be more appealing than AZ, especially if he doesn’t care for Murray who they are still on the hook for. He goes to Houston and he get his pick of QBs in this draft, would have a ton of control over personnel decisions as I imagine the Texans are desperate, and he has a relatively weaker division. Jacksonville is trending up, but I think Tennessee is trending down and Indy is treading water. I think Payton would have a much longer leash than with some other teams.

The Saints?

Payton will be in Dallas.

I don't think you have enough ham sandwiches either.

They're all rushing for that next big name, Harbaugh or Peyton. Probably worse since you have to give a first to the Saints for Peyton, but you see all these teams like the Texans, Cardinals, etc just firing away hoping they'll be the ones chosen. I'd stay away from the Cardinals, it looks like Hopkins doesn't want to be there and he's on the downside of his career, then you got Kyler's ego and injury proned status to deal with. Cardinals really screwed themselves by tying the team to Kyler. I'd rather take the Texans job. I would see Peyton going to the Texans with the cap space, picks they have, you can pick your own QB out of this draft.

Payton is going to a place with:

Excellent ownership
Big time cap space
Full roster control
A franchise QB would be nice, but doubt it's required
A clear path to success.

I would not be surprised at all to see him wait another season.

And Jim Harbaugh is gonna crash and burn, so who cares where he goes.

It depends on where Payton wants to go, but let's say the Broncos want to pay him 20 million per year on a 7 year contract, he'll get the Saints to agree on cash alone.

That's some good shit you're smoking today.

What?

The Broncos have all that.

Peyton is a little over-rated and he doesn't want to stay out of the game too long, alot of older coaches stay out too long and then they get left behind. When they do come back, they're using old schemes, old methods, and getting ran right out of the building in two to three years.

Texans seem like the best place with Colts as the second, as long as you can get in with Ownership and over Casserio's head to make him the one that's fired first if things don't work out.

Everything that has been reported is they want minimum 1st round pick which you guys have with the pick you got for Chubb.

With Arizona firing their GM as well today I would think that would a prime spot for him since he could have total control. If Staley implodes on Saturday the Chargers should go after him as well.

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That's a Chiefsplanet narrative.

Houston and AZ are loser franchises with loser ownership.

Payton has too much pedigree to put his career on the line with those shit franchises.

He needs to be in the NFC.

So was NO until he helped not make them a loser franchises. But I agree that he will stay away from the Texans, probably any self respecting coach will.

Arizona could be appealing because I think he could turn that team around pretty quickly and outside of the 49er's that division is below average. Come to the AFC West and you are mostly going to be a 3rd place team.

Yeah but he was a relative nobody when he took that job.

At this point of his career he's a potential HoF coach. I think he'll want a job that he thinks he can cement his legacy with.

Hard to see him cementing a legacy by playing runner up in the AFCW every year.

Skip the playoff record for now; there's so many possible reasons for Payton not having more rings that have nothing to do with him it would take months to talk about all of them. And we probably still wouldn't be able to come to an agreement which issues were really the problem(s).

Sean has been a universally respected HC for a long time. Every organization respects him, and perhaps more importantly, none of them have 'owned' Sean Payton. He's a coach that doesn't fit into an easy to define box that other coaches can just take advantage of.

Further, Sean Payton has been one of the top offensive-minded HCs in the league for decades; I don't think there's any argument otherwise. Every DC over the last 20 years or so will vouch for that, so I think that's a settled issue.

Also, he's been a QB whisperer for most if not all of his career. He's been able, like Andy/Pederson/McVay/Harbaugh, to make QBs better. That's a relatively rare and valuable skill for a HC.

Then you add in the experience; how many hot, young coaches have we watched just shit the bed on what fans would consider to be relatively routine decisions? Sean isn't going to make any of those mistakes, regardless of situation or how big the moment, because he's been there countless times. So he's not going to Kliff-burger/McDaniels/Hackett/Josh a situation, ever.

So whatever else you can say about Sean, he's got the experience and the skillsets that make him one of the best options at HC right now.

Ray is dead along with your busted take.

They won't get a 1st rounder unless the Team Payton wants to go to is willing to offer it. Payton is in the driver seat. He could just sit out until the contract expires.

Our owners own ****ing Walmart...there is so much more they can offer as opposed to anyone else.

Is that where they got Russell Wilson?

Denver doesn’t have “big time” salary cap space… about $14 million… middle of the league.

And Payton knows you don’t bring a 34 year old QB with declining talents to a bi-annual shootout with Mahomes.

He won 5 playoff games after that Bounty Gate assisted Super Bowl. Total. While fielding stacked rosters that were pushing massive cap charges into future seasons. Yeah, he's laughably overrated nowadays.

He might due to the fact that Ky is gonna be out for most of the season

Like what could they offer?

As of today. That can change. Who do you bring to beat Mahomes? Tom Brady? How about Peyton Manning? There no one that's anywhere that's a Mahomes killer. It's not a deciding factor. It doesn't matter where Payton goes in the AFC, he's going to have to beat Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, etc. If he goes to the NFC it's the same problem to win a Super Bowl. It almost doesn't matter unless you think Payton is a pussy.

I mean, he did take his ball and go home when the massive cap charges he'd accumulated from his shitty roster building philosophy came to roost.

Gee...imagine what they could put in almost 5000 retails outlets nation wide? Wanna go global? Sean Payton could have his own line of coachwear. The options are almost endless. If Payton and Walton's want to work together, the Saints aren't going to stop it.

If Payton chooses Denver it's just a $$$$ grab.

Bad situation to have a washed QB with that contract.

He's laughing from his grave.

Freakin' Donks win one game and then they get all uppity....LMAO

It's not that and I listened all y'all's "uppity" asses for 44 years of my life. One change and we doubled our output. Sampler size is small, but you can see the difference with an adult in the room.

If the Broncos were smart you'd go after Steichen.

He's the Daboll of this coaching cycle.

The Saints can stop it if they want they control him for 2 more years. His contract goes through the 2024 season.

Then they would get nothing.

If I was the Chargers I would be seeing what it would take to get Sean Paton under a contract and dump their dipshit head coach. Hell I can see Dallas bowing out in first round and Jerry doing all he can do to get Payton. I don't think Sean would want to head to head twice a year With Andy and Patrick no matter how desirable that Chargers job would be.

I said you're smoking some strong crack cocaine today. Glad I could clear that up for you.

With a top 5 all time QB in his prime.

True and they also have to continue to pay his salary until he gets a new job. I still think they will get a first rounder since he seems desperate to get back to coaching

Jerry jumping in and going after Payton wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Where did you get that idea from? He has to work to get the money and he has to work for years to toll off his contract.

That's like thinking the Broncos are gonna get him for a mere sack of dicks from Russell Wilson's farm of dicks.

Not sure I am following you. He has a contract with the Saints for 2 more years that they have to pay him. My understanding when it comes to these contracts once they get a job the former team doesn't have to pay them.

He could also not coach for the next 2 seasons then go to any team wants with no compensation attached. Doesn't seem like he wants to do that though

The Saints do not have to pay him until he reports back as an eligible employee. He retired.

oh I guess that makes sense. Gotcha thanks.