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Fish 03-28-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880010)
RAMDISK IS CREATED IN SOFTWARE YOU MORON

WANNA TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIT A 3060 IN YOUR LITTLE MAC POS?

**** OFF ALREADY

Ramdisk? That's your goal? LMAO you initially wanted a DDR4 system over a DDR5. If Ramdisk is your goal, you just exposed yourself again as a complete moron. And I just looked, the DDR5 RAM you listed was 5600 speed. You don't know what hardware you even need for ramdisk.

LOL, that you also thought ramdisk applied to Apple unified RAM.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 10:29 PM

I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING YOU TO SHUT THE **** UP

https://i.imgur.com/hCgIGzK.png

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880016)
Ramdisk? That's your goal? LMAO you initially wanted a DDR4 system over a DDR5. If Ramdisk is your goal, you just exposed yourself again as a complete moron. And I just looked, the DDR5 RAM you listed was 5600 speed. You don't know what hardware you even need for ramdisk.

LOL, that you also thought ramdisk applied to Apple unified RAM.

This is the dumbest ****ing post in this thread. I've been running a ramdisk on DDR3 for months. It's not my "goal." It's a basic ****ing requirement.

It doesn't matter what ****ing RAM I have in the computer, as long as I have more than eight ****ing gigs, because just the goddamn project folders I use are typically bigger than that.

MORON.

Fish 03-28-2023 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880020)
This is the dumbest ****ing post in this thread. I've been running a ramdisk on DDR3 for months. It's not my "goal." It's a basic ****ing requirement.

It doesn't matter what ****ing RAM I have in the computer, as long as I have more than eight ****ing gigs, because just the goddamn project folders I use are typically bigger than that.

MORON.

It actually does matter what RAM you have. LOL DDR3? That means you're limited to 10-14GB/s transfer speed for your ramdisk at best. That's the max transfer rate for DDR3 across your bus. Guess what the transfer rate is for the M1 and it's unified memory? 200GB/s. Look it up, dipshit. Again, you have no grasp of how memory is used in either the Intel machine or new Apple silicon processors.

Anybody looking at having Microcenter build them a computer doesn't have a shit bit of clue of the difference in RAM between Intel 12th gen and Apple silicon. Just shut up. You are way out of your league here.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880025)
It actually does matter what RAM you have. LOL DDR3? That means you're limited to 10-14GB/s transfer speed for your ramdisk at best. That's the max transfer rate for DDR3 across your bus. Guess what the transfer rate is for the M1 and it's unified memory? 200GB/s. Look it up, dipshit. Again, you have no grasp of how memory is used in either the Intel machine or new Apple silicon processors.

WHO CARES IF THE ENTIRE MACHINE ONLY HAS 8 GB!?! THIS ISN'T THE YEAR 2000. I CAN'T STORE SHIT ON THAT. WHO CARES HOW FAST IT'S GOING?

STOP POSTING YOUR ****ING BULLSHIT IN THIS ****ING THREAD

Fish 03-28-2023 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880027)
WHO CARES IF THE ENTIRE MACHINE ONLY HAS 8 GB!?! THIS ISN'T THE YEAR 2000. I CAN'T STORE SHIT ON THAT. WHO CARES HOW FAST IT'S GOING?

STOP POSTING YOUR ****ING BULLSHIT IN THIS ****ING THREAD

You can configure the Apple system with 32GB storage if you want. That doesn't change the fact that your deciding factor on a computer for ramdisk purposes is RAM speed and capacity when you don't understand how unified RAM works in ARM processors or how it compares to Intel based RAM. 8GB of RAM in an Apple silicon machine is not the equivalent of an Intel machine with 8GB of RAM. Regardless, I wasn't saying that an 8GB Apple system would compare to an i9 Intel system, only that it would actually work better for your specific purposes. Which is true. 8GB of unified memory would work just as well or better for making your videos as an overpriced 32GB of RAM Microcenter build.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:17 PM

Tell me what the **** I'm supposed to do when I need a 20 GB ramdisk on your stupid machine then. LMAO.

No, it wouldn't work better. BECAUSE I LITERALLY CAN'T DO THAT. And that's just a BASIC ****ING REQUIREMENT.

We're not even getting to the ****ing video card.

Shut your stupid ****ing mouth.

Fish 03-28-2023 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880034)
Tell me what the **** I'm supposed to do when I need a 20 GB ramdisk on your stupid machine then. LMAO.

No, it wouldn't work better. BECAUSE I LITERALLY CAN'T DO THAT. And that's just a BASIC ****ING REQUIREMENT.

We're not even getting to the ****ing video card.

Shut your stupid ****ing mouth.

Here's how to create one on an M1/M2, which is the fastest throughput you can achieve for a ramdisk at the moment. Go ahead and tell Reddit that they're wrong...

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comment...speed_you_can/

https://i.imgur.com/p36daPe.png

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880037)
Here's how to create one on an M1/M2, which is the fastest throughput you can achieve for a ramdisk at the moment. Go ahead and tell Reddit that they're wrong...

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comment...speed_you_can/

https://i.imgur.com/p36daPe.png

WOW! Macs are literal ****ing magic! I can store 20 GB of files on an 8 GB ram disk AND still have room left over to run my applications comfortably?!?!

****ing moron. Stop ****ing posting in this thread.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:36 PM

I'll do this all ****ing night with you dipshit. Next you're going to tell me to buy a Mac Studio with 32GB RAM.

What's the price point for that? THREE THOUSAND ****ING DOLLARS? And it still won't have what I want in it.

GO **** YOURSELF. STOP. ****ING. POSTING. IN. THIS. THREAD. YOU. PIECE. OF. SHIT. TROLL.

Fish 03-28-2023 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880038)
WOW! Macs are literal ****ing magic! I can store 20 GB of files on an 8 GB ram disk AND still have room left over to run my application?!?!

****ing moron. Stop ****ing posting in this thread.

I'm providing info in this thread, not asking silly shit like a beta. Good luck with that Microcenter build.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880041)
I'm providing info in this thread, not asking silly shit like a beta. Good luck with that Microcenter build.

Oh, don't worry dipshit. It will STOMP your pathetic 8 GB mac machine.

Shove it up your ass, reerun.

Fish 03-28-2023 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880043)
Oh, don't worry dipshit. It will STOMP your pathetic 8 GB mac machine.

Shove it up your ass, reerun.

Be sure and explain that to the Microcenter employee that's doing this hard work for you.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880044)
Be sure and explain that to the Microcenter employee that's doing this hard work for you.

What I will explain to him is that a literal ****ing moron on the internet recommended I buy a machine half the size of a toaster oven with 8 GB of RAM to replace this build.

And then I'll walk over to the genius bar and kick everyone in the nuts.

Fish 03-28-2023 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880045)
What I will explain to him is that a literal ****ing moron on the internet recommended I buy a machine half the size of a toaster oven with 8 GB of RAM to replace this build.

And then I'll walk over to the genius bar and kick everyone in the nuts.

Yeah, be sure and explain that you don't know what you need, but you still need them to put it together for you. Alpha move.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880048)
Yeah, be sure and explain that you don't know what you need, but you still need them to put it together for you. Alpha move.

I've had the parts picked out on Amazon and Newegg for days, moron. I know what I need.

You know how to show your ass constantly, which is all you do in this thread. You're an arrogant piece of shit.

Now piss off. You wanna troll? There are plenty of other threads for it.

Fish 03-28-2023 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880050)
I've had the parts picked out on Amazon and Newegg for days, moron. I know what I need.

You know how to show your ass constantly, which is all you do in this thread. You're an arrogant piece of shit.

Now piss off. You wanna troll? There are plenty of other threads for it.

No you didn't. You had DDR4 shit picked out before I pointed out that you should pick something DDR5 instead of DDR4, which you then changed your target. Shall I reference your idiot links? Face it, you're a ****ing beta tard who really knows nothing about computers.

Hammock Parties 03-28-2023 11:58 PM

Wrong mother****er. The DDR5 went ON SALE so I BRIEFLY considered it. That deal has ended. YOU had nothing to do with it.

My build is back on DDR4 now.

You're gonna piss off now and stop trolling.

Fish 03-29-2023 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880057)
Wrong mother****er. The DDR5 went ON SALE so I BRIEFLY considered it. That deal has ended. YOU had nothing to do with it.

My build is back on DDR4 now.

You're gonna piss off now and stop trolling.

LOL that you would consider DDR4 when DDR5 is availalble.... Does that not say a great deal?

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880058)
LOL that you would consider DDR4 when DDR5 is availalble.... Does that not say a great deal?

I don't need DDR5 you ****ing idiot. DDR4 is plenty fast and saves me ****ing money. Spending anything more is pointless. It's pissing away money.

Speaking of pissing, you should PISS OFF and stop TROLLING this ****ING THREAD.

Fish 03-29-2023 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880059)
I don't need DDR5 you ****ing idiot. DDR4 is plenty fast and saves me ****ing money. Spending anything more is pointless. It's pissing away money.

Speaking of pissing, you should PISS OFF and stop TROLLING this ****ING THREAD.

Just wanted to point out that your nonsense doesn't apply....

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comment...speed_you_can/

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880060)
Just wanted to point out that your nonsense doesn't apply....

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comment...speed_you_can/

No. You just want to ****ING TROLL.

That's great that your stupid mac has fast ram. It's an utterly irrelvant and ignorant point for my purposes.

You should now get the **** out.

Fish 03-29-2023 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880061)

That's great that your stupid mac has fast ram. It's an utterly irrelvant and ignorant point for my purposes.

LOL.. yeah, it's irrelevent.. the fastest RAM is totally overrated...

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16880063)
LOL.. yeah, it's irrelevent.. the fastest RAM is totally overrated...

NO ONE IS SAYING THAT YOU ****ING TROLL.

THE POINT IS:

I need a machine with at LEAST 32 GB of RAM.

Now SELL ME A MAC. GIVE IT TO ME BIG BOY. GIVE ME THE SCREENSHOT WITH THE COMPUTER OF MY DREAMS.

New World Order 03-29-2023 08:51 AM

Wow, what a thread

TambaBerry 03-29-2023 08:53 AM

ill build it for you for 100 dollars, no way in hell im paying someone 150 bucks to build my pc.

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16880286)
ill build it for you for 100 dollars, no way in hell im paying someone 150 bucks to build my pc.

what sort of warranty do you offer on your work?

TambaBerry 03-29-2023 09:27 AM

None, but the parts would have the warranty on them

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16880331)
None, but the parts would have the warranty on them

Show your work.

CoMoChief 03-29-2023 09:35 AM

If you're a newbie at building a computer, I suggest following some videos from Casey Holzem on youtube. Offers great tutorials for noobs n dummies.

ToxSocks 03-29-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16879482)
I've built several computers. The pros do a better job with cable management, airflow, etc.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16879875)
For $150 it's worth it to pay someone to do it right without any headaches.

My PC's are always rat's nests.

Jesus Christ....like....sigh....

Just when i thought you couldn't be any more of a beta.

PC's go together like legos and you can't figure out some basic cable management shit? Use some ****ing zip ties. The cases have provisions for you to hide the cables on the backside of the case.

Like....dude...????

Buck 03-29-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880059)
I don't need DDR5 you ****ing idiot. DDR4 is plenty fast and saves me ****ing money. Spending anything more is pointless. It's pissing away money.

Speaking of pissing, you should PISS OFF and stop TROLLING this ****ING THREAD.

Like paying someone $150 to velcro and use cable ties for you?

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16881071)
Jesus Christ....like....sigh....

Just when i thought you couldn't be any more of a beta.

PC's go together like legos and you can't figure out some basic cable management shit? Use some ****ing zip ties. The cases have provisions for you to hide the cables on the backside of the case.

Like....dude...????

Meh. Just rather not deal with it.

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 16881134)
Like paying someone $150 to velcro and use cable ties for you?

That's money well spent. I have absolutely no interesting in unboxing everything and opening 20 little baggies and losing a ****ing screw under the table and bla bla bla bla.

$150? WELL worth it.

Buck 03-29-2023 04:40 PM

Thats the fun part, to each his own.

Hammock Parties 03-29-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 16881152)
Thats the fun part, to each his own.

The novelty wears off after you've done it a dozen times.

Migrating my existing hard drives, sound card and video card will be PITA enough.

I don't mind tinkering and doing upgrades but I'm done building it from scratch.

Otter 03-29-2023 05:25 PM

7.18
Form Factor Mini-ITX
CPU Intel Core i9-12900k
GPU NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
DRAM 2x16GB DDR5-4800
Liquid Cooling Liquid CPU/GPU
Main Storage 2TB NVMe SSD
Secondary Storage None

Motherboard Z690
Operating System Windows 11 Pro
Networking 2.5G Ethernet, Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.0
Power Supply 750W SFX 80 PLUS Platinum
External Connections FRONT: 2x USB 3.1 Gen 1, 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C, Combo Headphone/Mic; REAR: 2x Thunderbolt 4, 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 (Type-A), 4x USB 3.2 Gen 1, 7.1 Audio, 2.5G Ethernet, 3x DisplayPort, 1x HDMI

How much you willing to pay for this puppy?

Fish 03-29-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 16881210)
7.18
Form Factor Mini-ITX
CPU Intel Core i9-12900k
GPU NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
DRAM 2x16GB DDR5-4800
Liquid Cooling Liquid CPU/GPU
Main Storage 2TB NVMe SSD
Secondary Storage None

Motherboard Z690
Operating System Windows 11 Pro
Networking 2.5G Ethernet, Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.0
Power Supply 750W SFX 80 PLUS Platinum
External Connections FRONT: 2x USB 3.1 Gen 1, 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C, Combo Headphone/Mic; REAR: 2x Thunderbolt 4, 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 (Type-A), 4x USB 3.2 Gen 1, 7.1 Audio, 2.5G Ethernet, 3x DisplayPort, 1x HDMI

How much you willing to pay for this puppy?

Not a bad system. The RAM is ridiculously slow for DDR5 though. Depending on part brands and other specs, that's about a $2K system.

htismaqe 03-30-2023 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 16881134)
Like paying someone $150 to velcro and use cable ties for you?

It's all about means my friend.

I've built probably 1000 PC's. I have the money now to pay somebody else to do it.

Why would I spend what precious little free time I have putting together a PC when I could spend that time USING a PC that's already put together?

htismaqe 03-30-2023 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16879999)
A Mac would still be better for your intended usage. Sorry, but it's true. Surprised you don't embrace the Apple ecosystem. Seems much more your MO...

I tried a month ago, man. He's a lost cause. :D

htismaqe 03-30-2023 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16880034)
Tell me what the **** I'm supposed to do when I need a 20 GB ramdisk on your stupid machine then. LMAO.

No, it wouldn't work better. BECAUSE I LITERALLY CAN'T DO THAT. And that's just a BASIC ****ING REQUIREMENT.

We're not even getting to the ****ing video card.

Shut your stupid ****ing mouth.

You won't NEED 20GB of Ramdisk. You've obviously never used Linux/OpenBSD before.

jd1020 03-30-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16881635)
It's all about means my friend.

I've built probably 1000 PC's. I have the money now to pay somebody else to do it.

Why would I spend what precious little free time I have putting together a PC when I could spend that time USING a PC that's already put together?

Even with the means I would still rather do it myself. I've seen way to many prebuilts that were clearly built by someone lazy as hell who didn't give a shit about making sure plugs/components were properly seated, motherboards had all the standoffs installed, or wiring up audio/front IO ports correctly. The people who build these things for companies are hardly experts. I don't know if the Verge still has their guide up for how to build a PC but it was damn near a ****ing meme.

htismaqe 03-30-2023 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16881654)
Even with the means I would still rather do it myself. I've seen way to many prebuilts that were clearly built by someone lazy as hell who didn't give a shit about making sure plugs/components were properly seated, motherboards had all the standoffs installed, or wiring up audio/front IO ports correctly. The people who build these things for companies are hardly experts. I don't know if Newegg still has their guide up for how to build a PC but it was damn near a ****ing meme.

I get it. I'm not suggesting I'd actually have a PC built by Microcenter for $150. I'm just saying that there's elegance (and efficiency) in simplicity.

That's why I have Apple pre-build all of my machines. ;)

Hammock Parties 03-30-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16881641)
You won't NEED 20GB of Ramdisk. You've obviously never used Linux/OpenBSD before.

lmao you're crazy...ramdisk is still the fastest storage available...if i'm editing it's the perfect place to store large video files, especially if they're 4K

besides that, the mac OS is a total piece of shit. hard pass.

BY THE WAY, any piece of shit macs with a 3060 in them? enlighten me.

htismaqe 03-30-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16881703)
lmao you're crazy...ramdisk is still the fastest storage available

besides that, the mac OS is a total piece of shit. hard pass.

If by "piece of shit" you mean "it just works and never has to be rebooted and shit" then yeah, I agree. LOL

Hammock Parties 03-30-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16881706)
If by "piece of shit" you mean "it just works and never has to be rebooted and shit" then yeah, I agree. LOL

Let's go baby. Build me a Mac with 32 GB of RAM and an Nvidia 3060 GTX.

I want to buy TODAY. Link me up you big stud.

I also need 10 TB of hard drive space. Hit me bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This money burning a hole in my pocket.

htismaqe 03-30-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16881715)
Let's go baby. Build me a Mac with 32 GB of RAM and an Nvidia 3060 GTX.

I want to buy TODAY. Link me up you big stud.

I also need 10 TB of hard drive space. Hit me bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This money burning a hole in my pocket.

So you've predetermined what you need for hardware specs without first examining how a new machine will handle your workload? ;)

Hammock Parties 03-30-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16881722)
So you've predetermined what you need for hardware specs

Yes. Where's my machine? Ready to buy.

htismaqe 03-30-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16881732)
Yes. Where's my machine? Ready to buy.

I'm clowning you, bro. We all know you're not actually interested in buying a machine that better suits your needs. ;)

Hammock Parties 03-30-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16881734)
I'm clowning you, bro. We all know you're not actually interested in buying a machine that better suits your needs. ;)

Oh no. I'm told the historic performance of the M1 processors, in tandem with Mac's revolutionary operating system will absolutely send my Adobe Premiere performance into light speed.

I am now looking for my dream machine. I ask you to drop a link, or even a screenshot, to my dream machine. Ready to buy. Cash and cock in hand.

Fish 03-30-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16881722)
So you've predetermined what you need for hardware specs without first examining how a new machine will handle your workload? ;)

He doesn't understand computer architecture in the slightest. Like, who uses RAMdisk these days with NVME drives so cheap and ridiculously fast?

Hammock Parties 03-30-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16882214)
He doesn't understand computer architecture in the slightest. Like, who uses RAMdisk these days with NVME drives so cheap and ridiculously fast?

Nor do you, apparently. RAMdisk is still faster, and it's not even ****ing close.

I'll ask you again, you ****ing idiot. Stop trolling this thread with your stupid ****ing mac bullshit.

ToxSocks 03-30-2023 02:41 PM

I run adobe Premiere Pro on a rig i built in 2016. $1600 when i built it. Based on the office Dell Optiplex i bought yesterday, this PC is probably worth $200 in today's market.

I have no issues running Premiere and editing videos on this this '16 model PC. And it's nothing more than a Quad Core AMD FX 8320, 16Gb of ram and a GTX660. Old shit. Runs Premiere just fine with no noticeable issues. /shrug.

ToxSocks 03-30-2023 02:49 PM

IDK man, maybe im just old and not privy to modern computing tech. But ****, i have all these computers both at home and at work that most here would consider heavily out dated toasters and they run whatever i throw at them.

I use both Premiere and Photoshop here at work with dual 26" Samsung Monitors and multiple other programs running at once such as quickbooks, excel etc and the computer never flinches.

My wife, right now, is playing Hogwarts Legacy on Medium/High settings on a computer i built a decade ago that was a freakin' $500 build back THEN.

Idk man....all of this, "i need this" and "it's not enough for what i need" just seems like nerd jargon to me.

ToxSocks 03-30-2023 02:52 PM

Seriously, i just bought off Amazon a refurb'd PC to run my counter register for $183. I7, 16GB of DDR4, 1TB SSD, 500 GB HDD....

It's really, really hard for me to justify spending $1500+ on a computer when this old tech shit will do everything i need it to do for $200.

htismaqe 03-30-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16882581)
IDK man, maybe im just old and not privy to modern computing tech. But ****, i have all these computers both at home and at work that most here would consider heavily out dated toasters and they run whatever i throw at them.

I use both Premiere and Photoshop here at work with dual 26" Samsung Monitors and multiple other programs running at once such as quickbooks, excel etc and the computer never flinches.

My wife, right now, is playing Hogwarts Legacy on Medium/High settings on a computer i built a decade ago that was a freakin' $500 build back THEN.

Idk man....all of this, "i need this" and "it's not enough for what i need" just seems like nerd jargon to me.

It's some kind of 21st century dick measuring contest, it seems. Computers are like cars in the 70's. Some people just drove a station wagon because they had 4 kids, 2 dogs, and just needed to get them to the pool.

Not everybody NEEDS a souped up Mustang. In fact, nobody NEEDS a souped up Mustang, they just think they do.

;)

Otter 03-30-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16881446)
Not a bad system. The RAM is ridiculously slow for DDR5 though. Depending on part brands and other specs, that's about a $2K system.

You're off by 1K according to Corsair. Almost pulled the trigger on it until it was 6pm and the sun was still up with April was around the corner.

I'll see her in November.

ToxSocks 03-30-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16882592)
It's some kind of 21st century dick measuring contest, it seems. Computers are like cars in the 70's. Some people just drove a station wagon because they had 4 kids, 2 dogs, and just needed to get them to the pool.

Not everybody NEEDS a souped up Mustang. In fact, nobody NEEDS a souped up Mustang, they just think they do.

;)

IDK man, i just feel like, when talking to people "in the know", it would seem like my rigs are heavily outdated and i allegedly need more.

But, ****, idk what i'm suppose to say here. These computers do everything i need with no noticeable issues. Would a newer rig render faster? I guess. But it's not like im sitting here going, "damn, this thing is really slowing me down". Seems snappy to me /shrug. I'm never sitting here waiting and going, "damn this computer just can't handle this". I'm petty much never waiting on my computers.

And i subscribe to the Adobe Cloud. So im running the latest versions of their software.

And then at home, for the past two years ive been inclined to rebuild both mine and my wife's PC's, but when she's over here playing a 2023 title at medium/high settings....?

It just seems silly to me to drop $3K redoing her and my PC's for shit people SAY i need, but in actuality don't need at all.

Maybe i'm ignant. Maybe im totally wrong and have no idea about the micro-seconds i'm missing out on, but it really, really seems to me that the cost of new tech vs the performance of old tech just does not, at all, justify the cost difference in real world application.

ToxSocks 03-30-2023 03:15 PM

But, like i said, WTF do i know. Go ahead, call me stupid. Tell me idk what im talking about, idc.

All i know is i can run Elden Ring on Medium/High on a computer that seems to be worth about $200 in today's market.

Hey, you can run Elden Ring on Ultra on your $2K rig. More power to ya. More money in my pocket though. Modern computer tech seems like a grift to me. /Shrug

Otter 03-30-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16882628)
But, like i said, WTF do i know. Go ahead, call me stupid. Tell me idk what im talking about, idc.

You're stupid and don't know your elbow from your asshole.

That was cathartic. Thank you Detoxing.

ToxSocks 03-30-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 16882642)
You're stupid and don't know your elbow from your asshole.

That was cathartic. Thank you Detoxing.

Glad i could help.

Fish 03-30-2023 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 16882604)
You're off by 1K according to Corsair. Almost pulled the trigger on it until it was 6pm and the sun was still up with April was around the corner.

I'll see her in November.

Well of course, according to Corsair who is selling it to you. You could build an equivalent system for ~$2K.

Fish 03-30-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16882628)
But, like i said, WTF do i know. Go ahead, call me stupid. Tell me idk what im talking about, idc.

All i know is i can run Elden Ring on Medium/High on a computer that seems to be worth about $200 in today's market.

Hey, you can run Elden Ring on Ultra on your $2K rig. More power to ya. More money in my pocket though. Modern computer tech seems like a grift to me. /Shrug

No PC shaming. Mostly just trolling Hammock. If you're happy with the performance, that's all that matters.

I bought my daughter a very nice gaming laptop with a 3060 in it, and showed her how to configure the graphics settings in games. She plays Minecraft windowed taking up 1/2 the screen, zero shits about quality.

Otter 03-30-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16882808)
Well of course, according to Corsair who is selling it to you. You could build an equivalent system for ~$2K.

To be honest I think I was more pissed off they couldn't add a penny to the price tag to make it easier on my expense tracking.

tredadda 03-30-2023 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16882837)
No PC shaming. Mostly just trolling Hammock. If you're happy with the performance, that's all that matters.

I bought my daughter a very nice gaming laptop with a 3060 in it, and showed her how to configure the graphics settings in games. She plays Minecraft windowed taking up 1/2 the screen, zero shits about quality.

So I have heard that a gaming laptop is not very good in comparison to a gaming desktop. What are your thoughts on that?

Fish 03-30-2023 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16883042)
So I have heard that a gaming laptop is not very good in comparison to a gaming desktop. What are your thoughts on that?

100% true. There's really no such thing as a gaming laptop. A proper gaming system needs calculated sufficient airflow and lots of voltage. Laptops are the exact opposite of that. The laptop versions of the graphics cards are purposely neutered on voltage to prevent overheating. They can run low graphics requirement games OK. But you cannot really run any graphics intensive games as they would compare on an equivalent desktop system. If you want to truly game, you need a decent desktop unit.

tredadda 03-31-2023 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16883368)
100% true. There's really no such thing as a gaming laptop. A proper gaming system needs calculated sufficient airflow and lots of voltage. Laptops are the exact opposite of that. The laptop versions of the graphics cards are purposely neutered on voltage to prevent overheating. They can run low graphics requirement games OK. But you cannot really run any graphics intensive games as they would compare on an equivalent desktop system. If you want to truly game, you need a decent desktop unit.

I appreciate that very good write up. Thank you. I will probably eventually build one or get one built.

Hammock Parties 03-31-2023 09:05 AM

looking at cases - need 2 side mounts for SSDs and mesh front

thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...47ZXRB66&psc=1

ToxSocks 03-31-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16883614)
looking at cases - need 2 side mounts for SSDs and mesh front

thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...47ZXRB66&psc=1

Neon RGB lights on computer cases are for children.

Hammock Parties 03-31-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16883633)
Neon RGB lights on computer cases are for children.

i can take it or leave it, so if you're going to make a case recommendation, that's not a requirement

crayzkirk 03-31-2023 10:15 AM

Just my opinion... Computers are a lot like cars, you pay a premium for something new when something not quite new can be much less expensive and just a few percentage points slower.

I'm looking to build a new computer and I will typically just ignore the latest generation of the hardware. So, if I were to build an AMD system, Ryzen 5600X would be my starting point. For Intel, which I haven't used lately, I would start with their previous generation as well. Video cards, again the same things. Yeah, you lose the ability to upgrade your CPU to the latest and greatest however how often does anyone really do that?

I understand wanting to have the fastest CPU or the best ray-tracing GPU; first person shooters demand a lot of power. Back in the day when I was playing a lot of Quake, I found that I would dial the graphics back a bit so that things were a bit more responsive. The eye candy is great however the mind soon starts to ignore it all. Sitting back looking at the cool graphics just meant I wasn't paying attention to the game and would just die.

In a year, that fancy new hardware is just going to be 'old' anyways... use the money saved to buy something nice for the significant other.

P.S. I skipped most of the shouting back and forth, this is for video editing. SSD drives are much faster than HDD technology and CPU+GPU power along with usable RAM would seem to be an important factor. If I were building a system to run specific software, I would work with the software company to put together a system which their software would utilize effectively.

Hammock Parties 04-02-2023 01:04 PM

LMAO this case

https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductI...101-874-10.jpg

kccrow 04-02-2023 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16883614)
looking at cases - need 2 side mounts for SSDs and mesh front

thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...47ZXRB66&psc=1

Nearly identical to my DeepCool case from a flow and internal design perspective. Just a mesh front instead of a plastic front. My CPU Package runs at 35 degrees at idle. You'd probably run cooler if you're going with a 12th gen processor as the 13th gens like I have run a little hot.

Hammock Parties 04-02-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16886440)
Nearly identical to my DeepCool case from a flow and internal design perspective. Just a mesh front instead of a plastic front. My CPU Package runs at 35 degrees at idle. You'd probably run cooler if you're going with a 12th gen processor as the 13th gens like I have run a little hot.

decided i'm going with one of these...the youtube review was stellar

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/O8_cd1c-Vso" title="Fractal&#39;s Focus 2 is a BIG Upgrade!" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

kccrow 04-02-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16886452)
decided i'm going with one of these...the youtube review was stellar

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/O8_cd1c-Vso" title="Fractal&#39;s Focus 2 is a BIG Upgrade!" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That's the other case I considered but I just happened to get a much better deal on the DeepCool at the time and I didn't have to purchase separate fans right away.

htismaqe 04-03-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16886452)
decided i'm going with one of these...the youtube review was stellar

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/O8_cd1c-Vso" title="Fractal&#39;s Focus 2 is a BIG Upgrade!" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You can never have too much airflow through the case. I actually like designs that have fans in the front.

ToxSocks 04-03-2023 10:58 AM

Ive always been partial to the Thermal Take cases. They usually have several options that look good in a modern home/office w/o looking garish and juvenile.

But to each his own.

https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/s300-tg-mid-tower.html

jd1020 04-04-2023 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16887506)
Ive always been partial to the Thermal Take cases. They usually have several options that look good in a modern home/office w/o looking garish and juvenile.

But to each his own.

https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/s300-tg-mid-tower.html

I've tried to look at Thermaltake stuff before but I feel like everything they offer is just a downgraded version of something someone else offers.

That case to me just looks like a carbon copy of CoolerMaster's once very popular CM690/694 case just with worse airflow because they blocked off the entire front of the case for appearance sake. The side vents will let in some air but it's nothing compared to actual front ventilation.

Hammock Parties 04-04-2023 01:55 PM

ya'll think we will see price drops after April 18? tax season deals?

jd1020 04-04-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16889526)
ya'll think we will see price drops after April 18? tax season deals?

For the previous generation stuff you've been posting as builds?

https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-ima...jpg&width=1200

Probably see some sales around Prime Day in mid July, and then the typical sale season at the end of the year, but the previous gen shit is probably pretty close to bottomed out until its out of stock completely.


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