I was all about signing Brown to a big deal, but I've changed my mind about that.

No thanks to this as well

This is going to cost at least a 1st round pick. Anyone that thinks we'd get him and not have to give up a first is delusional. Orlando Brown cost us a 1st. Tunsil is a legit top 3 LT. Texans have all the leverage, but honestly they are reeruned if they trade him. They need to get a QB and they need to protect that new QB. Why would they trade Tunsil, who has several more great years left.

Plus it's gonna cost a new contract and that contract is going to be a record breaker.

We don't need the best LT in the league. With how Patrick Mahomes plays QB we need a guy that is top 10-15 at the position. We don't need a large cap hit for the position.

Patrick Mahomes can make an average to good LT look great and that's all we need. That allows us to pay for game changing players and a LT for us isnt a game changing position.

No to Tunsil, but I bet they don't trade him anyway.

Veach'gone Wild! lol

2023 1st & 2024 2nd for Tunsil
2023 2nd for Hopkins
2023 3rd + x2 2024 3rd for DE Z Smith

Use the money we save on Clowney, get x2 comp 3rd next year for OBJ and JuJu.

All 3 are in win-now mode in their careers.

Starting to think Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones are the only guys that are capable of being plus starters at LT in this draft.

Obviously Anton Harrison is intriguing but I wonder if he can be make that transition in the NFL

Takes two doesn’t it? What if Tunsil doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild?

:facepalm:

Great so many anxious to add a turnstile to the LT spot. Sounds promising.

Holy shit. Are you really this ****ing clueless? That's impressive.

Yes…..yes he is.

Calm the **** down our resident CP Karen. One can make a joke without you flipping out about it.

Take a breather.

This…..

https://i.imgur.com/ambgmwv.jpg

Andy- If we're going to pay top dollar for a LT, I want it to be a top LT.

Veach- **** it, let's go get one!

Bawahahahaha

That’s funny. Still don’t care Karen. I trust Veach what more than your keyboard pounding.

PFF is absolute garbage

Andy still calls the shots to all of Veach's scenarios he presents to Andy.

Amazing people actually believe that.

Jesus Christ, have you ever even won a game of Madden? 3 ****ing 1’s?

No he didn't Veach and Clark have both stated it was a joke. Seriously dude you think KC after winning the SB cares one **** about trading the last pick in the 1st round that will happen so late nobody GAF anyway? The draft is already well underway by then.

I just saw Veach down at the Price Chopper buying apples.

He said this was all BS.

Texans have picks, 2, 12, and 33

Seriously why in the F would they want pick 31?

Now if it was me, I'd skip taking a QB this season. Better QBs next year and you are probably still going to suck, so maybe getting future 1st round picks is more interesting to them.

Chiefs send 31 and something else for Tunsil and next years 1? Who knows.

Tunsil is an absolute upgrade over Brown BTW

He's 28 and turns 29 in August (i.e. not 29 and turning 30). It's not ridiculous to imagine him playing through 5 years of a 6-year deal.

I'm hopeful this year's 1st is not part of the deal but if it is, it is. Tunsil is my favorite LT in the NFL so I'd be pretty giddy. I just don't want Veach to overpay either and when you start talking 1st round picks and mega deals, it's already getting there. It would be awesome if a 1st wasn't part of the deal, such as two 2's and a 3 or something, but I have a hard time thinking it wouldn't be. Would be nice if it is a 2024 1st if so.

Clark has already said in interviews that the draft being in KC would not prevent them from trading out of it.

Yeah. The usual suggestion that they might be loading up to move up in the first obviously doesn’t apply when you’ve got the #2. And unless they are going after Lamar the QB market is settled.

It wouldn’t make sense to me to trade away a bookend LT if you’re drafting QB at the top of the first, but what do I know.

:LOL:

Keeping Mahomes healthy and prolonging his career is ALWAYS worth it. Screw it do whatever it takes to grab Tunsil. Tunsil, Thuney and Humphrey covering Mahomes' blindside? Mahomes might throw for 6,000+ dead serious. He will absolutely sit back there and tear defenses asses apart.

For a team as raw as they are, it wouldn't be beyond reason to move Tunsil for a 2nd this year and 1st next from KC as it might give them some liberty to move around the draft.

Take your QBotF at #2 then try to trade up from #12 to #10 with your 4th-round pick to grab your LTotF. Take an ER at #33 then use KC's pick and one of your 3rds to go up for a WR in the 2nd but modest enough to get a 4th-round kickback. Try to snag a DL in the 3rd. I think that goes a long way toward building a respectable base.

Next year you have three picks in the 1st, you could probably kick one of those down the road another year by moving it if you want to keep the 2 1sts train going much like Philly did last year.

We'd have to use our 3rd and get a low 5th high 6th back. That's the trade value on the chart anyways. Not good.

doubt this is more than a pipe dream, but if HOU would take our 31st pick for Tunsil, Veach should do that deal instantaneously and run away as fast as possible before HOU tries to take it back, lol. Maybe the best pass-pro LT in the NFL for the 31st pick? Man, I wish Billy was still their GM.

I cannot talk myself into any convoluted reasoning that might drive the Texans to be willing to trade Tunsil. Tons of cap room. New hopefully franchise QB starting this fall. They'd be nuts.

Also I would really hope Clark Hunt isn’t dumb enough to pass on securing Patrick Mahomes’ left tackle of the future just because he wants to have a first round pick in the KC draft.

Fortunately I don’t believe he’s that dumb and I believe he would find the value of protecting his number one asset higher than getting some cheers from the home crowd on draft night.

If Tunsil doesn’t wanna sign an extension.

Well, it is HOU we're talking about. It's not like it'd be a huge stretch as far as boneheaded decisions they've made over the last 5-6 years. Technically, it wouldn't even be the worst decision they've ever made.

Clark has already said in interviews that the draft being in KC would not prevent them from trading out of it.

They could bring Tunsil & Mahomes on stage to explain the trade in front of the KC draft audience.

Tunsil is a plus add but the Texans would have to be ****ing insane to trade him.

Make him a big enough offer and he'll sign.

Yeah, but Easterby is gone now, and General Manager Bill O'Brien is long gone. They have seemed a lot less meth-heady lately in the way they operate.

He’s said he wants to be the highest paid LT

I’m assuming they’ll do that but if they could trade him, take a rookie qb and a rookie LT they like it would help their window

Yeah, but what if Billy left a bag of meth in his desk? I mean, we can hope, right?

A first is probably worth kicking the can for another couple years on LT.

You figure a late 1st round LT probably has a 50/50 shot at being good best case.

Securing 2 years with Tunsil, puts us close to SB contention for another two years. Seems worth it, IMO.

Then you just have to address DE/DL/WR the remainder of FA and the draft.

You’d figure Tunsil can play at this level for 4-5 years

Hell maybe more

You’d trade 31 for that

There's a reason why they are picking #2 overall

What makes them even dumber is the fact that they should of been picking #1 overall....

Yeah. Their QB turned out to be a mega rapist and they got caught financing his rape hobby.

Not sure what that has to do with Tunsil.

Should have*

Wisdom speaketh

I think this deal can get done without a first involved.

Wait, how am I supposed to interpret this?

Am I supposed to just ignore the popcorn emojis?

But if I don't ignore them, it suggests sitting on the sidelines watching is it.

If ignore them, it suggests sky is the limit.

Patrick might just be bored and going on a Sunday afternoon troll.

:shrug:

Been wanting Tunsil since last season but I am not holding my breath.

I’m FAPing to a pipe dream where Tunsil refuses to resign with HOU and is willing to take a top of the market deal, but not reset to play on a contender.

Hiring Patriot castoffs, and retaining them

Not sure how that led to Watson being a sex pest but ok.

If you want to twist yourself up over something that's not going to happen (again), knock yourself out.

But will Larry Tunsil go around the locker room interviewing players with stupid questions. We need that I think.

It starts from the top, Watson was a symptom

What in the **** are you talking about LMAO

How does some weird preacher guy being hired make Deshaun Watson go rape?

LOL, wow like they didn't know these personal issues when they drafted him since it's their job to figure that out.

"Well, Brett and I have had an ongoing joke here for several years – since we learned that the draft was coming to Kansas City – that we had to have our first-round pick for this draft," Hunt said. "Of course, at the end of the day, if there’s a transaction that makes sense for the club, I’m certainly not going to stand in the way of that."

I'm sure he said LOL SI when they asked him if he was a rapist prior to being drafted.

So they just flew on blind drafting him, and no research in his personal life.

JFC :facepalm:

Sure. Just like the Chiefs should have determined that Jevon Belcher would be a future murderer when they gave him a contract.

we are not, nor will we ever be in an all in and forget the future team as long as Mahomes is the QB.

Everytime I read this board in the off-season, I'm so glad that 99% of CP'ers have NO say in anything the Chiefs do re: FA/Trades/Draftees.


Sit back, trust the process, and wait for the results.

All this "OMGWTFBC" reaction to rumors is getting in the way of trying to learn real info on this board.

Fascinating, the move would hold greater weight. But Clark Hunt would prefer the weight of a fourth Lombardi in his hand. Very good.

Tunsil going into the last year of his deal while Houston is in full on rebuild mode could swing this either direction. he counts $35M against Houston's cap this year to keep, and $16.7M to cut. He could easily rework that deal to take some weight off their dead cap, then extend with KC so his cap hit lowers.

If Houston wants a first round pick for Tunsil, you do it. Period. There's no guarantee that KC will be picking last in the first round next year, but if you have elite pass blocking... it's a much better possibility.

Chiefs will get a 3rd round comp pick for OBJ next year for sure. That helps mitigate the cost a little. Our draft picks are valuable due to Mahomes' contract, but absolutely you should expect your LT to be one of the top five highest paid positions on the team. I got ZERO problem with them putting an abundance of resources into protecting the Franchise.

Comp pick will be based on FAs acquired though, right? Or is it specific to the position (we traded to fill LT, so our LT walking = comp pick?)?

So you think interviews of random massage parlours Is part of every teams pre draft research?

Nah I'm not comfortable with spending another first round pick on a vet LT who we'll have to pay a big bag to. If we're gonna pay a bag we might aswell keep OBJ ffs. You can't do that and expect to keep our interior intact for much longer. It's time to draft a longterm solution now imo.

This could also be pressure on OBJs agent: “You’d better find out if he is worth what you say he is; we will move on if you don’t return to the table.”

Past relationships, and it's been said that some interviews with players had the most blunt and intrusive questions about their family. Yes you uncover everything.

Like Tyreek and his girlfriend, they gave him a chance and he didn't **** it up.

The Texans clearly didn't do their due diligence.

This is a position where I’d make an exception. I’m fine with taking this approach at RT but blind side protection is uncompromisable. I don’t think we have a choice outside of the draft now that we’ve chosen to move on from OBJ (if that’s the case). The first is what we would’ve spent on a LT who may not even be ready yet. As for someone like DHop… man I would love it but it works best if you sign him while we draft his replacement and that to me seems counterproductive if iou give up picks.

Who is going to catch that?. What he did was wrong but it seemed more of a misinterpretation of what a sex worker was and I’m assuming he wasn’t doing this at Clemson.

So you dont think Brown helped with the superbowl?

Some did because he slipped past multiple QB needy teams.

We got a Desaun Watson apologist, everyone.

He just happened to mistake legit masseuses for sex workers 24 times.

And the Texans, whatever they knew prior to the draft, clearly facilitated his behavior with hotel rooms and NDAs.

https://dailysnark.com/2022/06/07/te...re-agreements/

So did Patrick. Are you saying he has skeletons, too?

I'd rather it be a 2nd this year and a 1 next year, but not sure that would get it done.

Send them pick 31. You can get a similar prospect at pick 62.

I trust Veach to do what’s best in this situation and get him for the best possible value for KC when it comes to picks/contract. To my understanding LTs tend to age well so his current age should not play too much into this at all.

As I said before, shitty franchises don't do their research. Which is why those teams were picking in the top 10

You have no point is what you're saying. Got it.

So the Texans are a champion franchise ?