I believe there's a cap on the total VSB benefit. So if they used some of it on Allegretti, the amount of the total cap benefit gained on Nnadi would be reduced accordingly.

Not sure how much it is but OTC shows this for Allegretti.

Nick Allegretti signed a one year, $2.582 million contract with the Chiefs. The contract is fully guaranteed and he will be treated as a four year qualifying player.

His cap hit $1.2 million.

This is from the CBA.

So it looks like they used all of that benefit on Allegretti.

Hmmm...I kinda feel like that's all of it.

Unless the tweet is referencing the 'ordinary' VSB rather than the 4-year player exception. Nnadi likely had so little value on the FA market that we probably could sign him under the standard VSB. So that makes some sense.

Yeah, I don't think that Nnadi got anything of value. He just wasn't getting any offers out there and the Chiefs are bringing him back as depth until camp. I don't even think he has a better than 50% chance of making the regular season roster at this point.

Yup, that checks out.

It must be the standard VSB where you get a pretty marginal break. It ain't much but I also don't think you need to guarantee anything like you do with the 4-yr.

It feels like Veach/Andy are basically saying that we're going to roll with below-average DTs (except CJ or course) in 2023. Maybe we draft a guy (in the late rounds I guess), but we're not actively going to go after one, either in the draft or FA.

Not a bad strategy, considering that there's not that much reason for our defense to have the greatest run-stuffing D when we have the lead so often, and teams usually have to pass to keep/catch up.

Also bolsters the idea that Veach is indeed hunting for some real weapons for the offense.

So in other words there is a cap hit and they aren't just "doing him a solid". Even if it's only a million bucks that's still 10% of their available cap space. That's not nothing.

Are you talking about Nnadi? It depends on what is guaranteed and where he is at contract wise at the start of the season. His contract could not be big enough to count in the top 51.

It's possible but I doubt it being that he's now a 6 year veteran.

What does that have to do with anything?

Again I haven't seen the numbers but he's been a Chief for 5+ years now. Obviously they like what he does better than we do. I have no idea what else he was offered but I'm sure his contract will hit the top 51.

AW HELL NNAH.

The Chiefs were 8th best in rush yards given up per game, only 108 yards. That's because they were 4th in rushing attempts against. The three teams with fewer attempts against have the best yards per rush given up, Tenn, Balt and SF, excellent run defenses. Chiefs were middle of the pack in yards per rush.

This shows teams don't run against the Chiefs because the Chiefs offense pressures them to throw. Hence it's smart to under resource the DT position.

It sounds like they plan on using the veteran's exception with him? I don't really know much about how it works but somebody said his base salary could be as low as like $900K next year.

:thumb:
Thanks for the data.

I was a little concerned after we lost Saunders, but he was never great vs. the run anyway. He was probably about average. And as I said before, I really don't think the DL has to do any better than what they did last season and it'll be fine. Just don't fall back in a significant way. And who really cares if some team wants to run against us? Not one of those teams in the AFC will probably make the playoffs anyway.

By Nnature?!?

I thnk they used their allotment on Allegretti

He had a bad year. Admittedly. That said he's solid. I fully expect a rebound year...

Vet minimum and the VSB adjusts depending on years of service time.

Wouldn't be shocking if 6 yrs puts him into the top 51 by default.

This is the kind of analysis that makes me happy to pay the $99 annual CP membership fee. Good work.

Haha right on JH. Teach a man to fish. Here's an excellent site for detailed team stats by category. For instance in this case rushing defense, one of 14 categories, is broken down 9 different ways. Really good stuff. Enjoy!

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stats/

It also makes sense that the Chiefs would do whatever it takes to keep CJ, easily the best pass rusher at DT in the league, since they should emphasize pass rush at the position. That's amplified by their chief rivals (see what I did) being pass-centric teams.

say what you want about his play but he's a lot more professional than some of these insecure bitches

stack them rings, nnadi

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I compiled the total number for snaps for all the defensive linemen. Some conclusions.

• Of course like most other NFL teams, the Chiefs use many different alignments and personnel groups, depending on situation. The positional titles of DT and DE are somewhat arbitrary.
• The Chiefs nominal defensive ends take more snaps than nominal defensive tackles. Jones alone takes almost half of the snaps of nominal defensive tackles.
• Some of the "Nnadi is the worst ever" talk is hyperbole. He took more snaps, and played a higher percentage of downs when he was available, than many of other players on the DL.
• I'm glad to have him back at the price until we can find someone better.

Defensive Tackles
Name/Snaps/percent of available played
Jones 915 80%
Wharton 149 44%
Saunders 421 39%
Nnadi 388 34%
Williams 83 24%
Stallworth 53 14%
Shelton 9 12%
Total: 2018

Defensive ends
Name/Snaps/percent of available played
Clark 717 69%
Karlaftis 730 64%
Danna 471 54%
Dunlap 572 50%
Henning 88 19%
Total: 2578

Nnadi’s play has completely fell off the past couple years.


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at least he's tackling better.... :Lin:

He was playing well early in the year but apparently he's realized he sucks shit again. Dang.

Turns out he sucks as bad as we were saying...

Appeals to authority don't get you very far ' round here.

He sucks. He's not been good for years.

Play the young guys. "draft and develop" doesn't work if you don't in fact play them to develop them.

The dude from the Raiders and the guy we just drafted. Play them.

As it turns out he was actually not back at all.-Morgan Freeman voice.

How is the big fella doin'?

I hope he lives a long and healthy life.

And that he's played his last down for the Chiefs.

We're better with Pennel and Ferrell.

He has never been the same since that back injury.

Tbat injury will probably never come close to being better until he retires. So, he probably gets close to 90% healthy by training camp, and by this time of year, he is probably about 60% healthy.

I'm in Nnadi's camp. I hope he gets ten tackles and five sacks next week. He's a reliable guy in the trenches and he's always available, and that means a lot this late in the season.

Hes really good at celebrating a tackle 10 yards down field.

Amen, although Pennel now also sucks. It's bitching in the margins I know but damn annoying we didn't keep Coburn.

Pennel was working the Phins interior line on quite a few run plays. One that comes to mind, stood up the center and made the play on the back himself.