Wouldn't mind seeing him run by the slow Buffalo secondary.

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Don’t forget drops, bad routes, and running out of bounds when he could have scored the winning TD against Buffalo in OT.

We were never beating that offer.

Starting to look like it's either DHop or a 1st round WR

A low 2nd for Elijah Moore and a low 3rd? I'd have done that all day. I'd have given up our 2nd for Moore and a 4th.

Huh? The Browns gave up 42 (which is not a low 2nd) for Moore and a 3rd.

I actually don't like that trade for the Browns.

Yikes

Take Denzil Mims off them

Cleveland has made a ton of good moves this year.

WR room is stacked now with Cooper, Peoples-Jones and Moore as the starting 3. David Bell was a 3rd rounder last year that could develop more.

They added Dalvin Tomlinson at DT, Ogbo Okoronkwo at DE, and Thornhill at FS.

And they will have Watson all year.

On paper, they got alot better.

No idea what the plan is. Reid doesn’t play rookie wrs much.

If they show promise and learn the playbook he will.

I'm starting to wonder if the Chiefs have interest in any WR.

Sorry Bart Vatch hasn’t disclosed his plan to you.

Probably it’s because of your weak chin.

We're going to bring Andre Rison out of retirement?

Of course you are. Because you're a butt****ing moron that hasn't learned a damn thing watching a top notch organization from top to bottom for several years now.

It's very odd, but you have to believe they have a plan. For all we know they end up with D-Hop and draft a WR high. They always seem to come through in the end, either by 7th round RBs stepping up or 4th & 7th round corners playing like solid veterans when you think you have a glaring hole at the position.

I'm still optimistic.

LOL. Overreaction much junior?

This is interesting. I think I would have kept him at that cost, but I have no idea about how he operates behind the scenes. Guy could have been a real pain to work with.

Yeah, it's early. Just been a strange offseason with several receivers leaving and nobody replaced. Last year they traded Tyreek but replaced him with Juju and MVS. I like Toney but he's got Anthony Davis' like durability. Maybe Moore turns the corner and plays more as a WR this year. He wasn't used much last season. MVS hasn't really been a #1 WR. Juju wasn't a true #1 but he put up good numbers last year. Hardman played about half a year and was replaceable as they showed over the second half.

It's entirely posssible that Hardman didn't want to come back.

That wasn't just a reaction to that post. It's your whole schtick. You morons that continue to bitch and complain during the golden era of Chiefs football are insufferable.

It sucks but, good luck Mecole and thanks for the memories. Good luck to you sir!

I am still optimistic that Veach has something in mind. He always does and we have not been disappointed yet. Chin up! :thumb:

MVS will never be a WR1. He's too limited. He's really a 3.

JuJu likewise, never a 1. He's a middling but solid 2.

Hardman I think was supposed to be WR3, but Toney kind of took that over, because KT is just a more talented receiver.

Right now, there's no one on the team that can fill JuJu's role of possession receiver. Skyy might end up filling that role, except that he has to learn to read zone.

If the Jets land Rodgers, can I bet on Hardman saying that Rodgers is the best QB he’s ever played with? Sounds like easy money.

Interesting.

I guess Hardman was dead set on more targets. Gotta earn 'em, bro.

If? I think we're past 'if.' NYJ has banked everything on landing Rodgers. Just a question of when they announce it.

And of course Hardman will say something like that. It's boilerplate rhetoric.

Oh I’m sure the deal is done. But it hasn’t been announced, so I stuck with if.

I need to find an idiot to make that bet with.

So dang, what are we going to do at the WR position? Looking a little thin boys

You're still overreacting to my post. I haven't been doing those things you mention. Sounds like you're doing the bitching and complaining about others' posts.

I find it interesting that the two coaches who know Hardman the best didn't want him.

Well, if we go by history, Veach/Andy will end up signing a veteran WR, basically a prototypical guy with good/great hands that can run the full route tree, and draft at least one WR. Possibly two, or a WR and a TE.

If we go by anything else, we're not signing a vet WR, installing a WR that hasn't played in half his scheduled games due to recurring injuries, and relying on pure hope that the other 2nd year guy will suddenly blossom into JuJu 2.0. Oh, and the Ross twins.

Take you pick. Your guess is as good as mine.

Then he goes to a team that's deeper at WR than the Chiefs

Veach: You've accomplished a metric crap-ton since you've been here Patrick. What records are you looking to break in 2023?
Mahomes: Well, I saw that Alex had a season where he didn't throw a TD pass to a WR. I'd like to do that through the playoffs and Super Bowl.
Veach: Oh. Uh, well... I can certainly spend that money elsewhere.

I knew it was wishful thinking we'd bring him back but I wish Mecole Hardman great success with his new team. Very under underupreciated as a Chief. Most under rated player.

Always loved his potential but it just didn’t translate into production and I don’t think it ever will , Wilson is going to be a target hog and Lazard will get his , he is going to be a really one player on a lesser team , his next contract will be for less.

How will his pelvis feel in New Jersey?

Eh, maybe not so much. He was only getting 3-4 targets/gm in KC. If he slides into that WR3 spot since Moore left, he might see twice that as a Jet.

Same. What a disappointment.

Was told we could afford him, lolz.

Very true. I wonder why, though..

It is an interesting team to sign a one year deal with. He is going to be a punt returner and open the year at the 4th wr

Maybe because he was only getting 3-4 touches a game. And running 4-5 jet-sweep motions/orbitals a game. So running 4-5 25-yard windsprints per game to only get 3-4 touches. And several times he got fewer than that, in spite of the fact that he was catching the ball at about a 75% rate, he wasn't getting an increase in targets. Never going to get a big contract only touching the ball 3-4 times a game.

Jets traded Moore to the Browns.

Good riddance Hardman

Remember when this guy was drafted to replace Tyreek Hill?

Pretty good day for the Jets.

Got the equivalent of a high third for turning Moore into Hardman.

WR room is a dumpster fire right now. For all the talk of all the WR's wanting to come here it sure doesn't look like it too much.

At some point that’s probably on him , 4 years in and I can’t really say he is that much better than he was as a rookie .

Hardman had his moments, including the KO return when we were down 24-0 to the Texans, but overall he was a big letdown frm what was expected.

He does have super speed on those jet sweeps and incredible acceleration that I will miss.

Looking more and more like the Jets are the team to challenge the Bengals for 2nd in the AFC.

If they get Rodgers and OBJ they’re winning that division IMO

Yeah also Hardman's tweet say "way "MORE than that!"
Is that a play on words that indicates the Jets are trading Moore and Mecole is taking his role?

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I disagree. He did improve over his time in KC. His route tree expanded, he got better at his releases, he got better at improving when Pat scrambled, his catch rate improved by 10% from Year 1 to Year 4, and his scoring improved.

But his number of targets pretty much stayed the same.

Now, in 2022 it looked like he was going to be featured more, but injuries derailed that possibility. But in the 8 games he played, he showed that he could run more routes and that he could reliably find the soft spots in zone, and that he could make big catches in big moments, and that he could catch the ball under duress. Was he ever going to be the 2nd target behind Kelce? Probably not. But to say that he never got better as a WR just isn't the case.

I gotta be honest, I had a soft spot for Hardman. Always seemed like a positive guy and good teammate. He didn't complain when he was here even if he was frustrated. At that cost I'd have honestly loved him back, I think it's good value. It just seems like he genuinely wants to prove himself a more complete player somewhere else. Not sure it'll work out how he expects but good luck to him.

The Mecole Hardman free agent signing by the Jets was kind of related to Cleveland.

Jets trade WR Elijah Moore to the Cleveland Browns in an exchange of day 2 draft picks.

So we are going to have a 15-page mega thread over losing Hardman? A simple thanks for your service thou laking you got rings. Good Luck watch the door on the back sweep.

If Mecole could irritate a typically unflappably Patrick, he’ll tie crybaby Rodgers into a pretzel quickly.

Ya'll can hate on Mecole "Jet Sweep" Hardman all you want, but that play was money!

Into what? He was basically a gadget player.

Not sure what Veach saw in him over D.K. Metcalf, who ran the same 40 dash time but happens to be bigger than a house. I suppose we don't win more than two Super Bowls with Metcalf, but having him on the roster would have been something these last few years. I believe Seattle extended him last season in his final year. The Chiefs would likely have done the same or traded him for a crapload of picks.

DK also got owned by Chavarius Ward.

he was a good gadget player though. That jet sweep was pretty nasty and added value to the offense. But he barely played last season and we were fine without him.

Well damn. And I thought he was elite.

The early reports that the Chiefs view Toney as our #1 receiver may be true. They may be fine with the group we got and just plan to play Moore and Toney a lot more.

Maybe wait until at lest after the draft? You ****ing morons are beyond impatient.

That can't be. He was injured several times despite a light workload. Imagine him getting 5 or 6 touches per game.

It's definitely time to hit the panic button. It's already March 22!! I just wish there were any possibility of improving the roster between now and the start of the season. Too bad there isn't some kind of way to get some of those good college players onto the team. Or maybe there should be an option of trading either picks or players for someone. That would make me worry a lot less.

Little sad to see him go, but happy I don't have to root for a player with that dumbass first name anymore.

You put those weapons around Rodgers and he’s back to being top 3. The guy had no elite receiving talent in GB last year

Whatever they paid, it was too much.

Good for him. Jets should be contenders if they get Rodgers.

Surely we are getting Odell or Hopkins. Can’t see us rolling with Toney/Moore/MVS and rookies

Pringle and Robinson are sitting by their phones.

By the way, that's an antiquated expression. I guess I should say they're keeping their phones in their front pockets.

Nah. There's the Ross brothers, check out their stats for the last four years in the NFL. Plus, you saw that pass to himself Pat converted for a first down. That's the plan going forward. Pat throws to himself 5-7 time a game. Then he'll target Travis 225 times in 2023. It'll be the first time a TE goes over 2,000 yards and 20 TDs. Pacheco will grab about 75 balls. Who needs WRs?

ROFL

That play was money to pay dirt against the Bills in the 13 second game.

Glad he signed with jet’s, the furthest from KC he gets the better

DeSean Jackson incoming?

precisely my point