You want to give Pacheco 20 carries a game for 17 weeks and just pray he's healthy for the playoffs?

Dude was patched together with duct tape in the Super Bowl.

Take the load way off Pacheco until December.

At this point, Cook basically has a detachable, artificial shoulder that comes bundled with his pads but he'd still look great in the Chiefs' backfield.

Agreed. As much as I like Pacheco, his running style is not conducive to a long, healthy career. He runs angry and embraces contact vs trying to avoid it. To get the most out of him his workload has to be managed.

I'd roll with the UDFA RB they picked up and let him soak up some carries.

I wish Jones' deal would hurry up and get done. Then a move like Cook would make sense.

Patched together with duct tape?

The way the guy played, nobody had any inkling the guy was even injured.

He was dinged up, not patched together with ****ing duct tape. Jesus Christ.

I guess Brett Favre was what? Was he in traction for his career by your drama queen damage scale?

It's still a violent sport. You're expected to actually play football, ALL THE TIME, to get paid the hilarious salary that is paid to play a game for a living.

Pacheco is a ****ing man's man, laced his cleats up a little tighter and helped secure a championship, and got his dings fixed in the offseason.

Pacheco had all of those injuries… which yes he effectively played through… despite only being the Chiefs RB1 for about half a season last year.

Pacheco as RB1 for a full season with his punishing running style?

Having solid depth would be beneficial.

Surely he wants a Ring...he will have to pay the Iron Price Chiefs Tax. Love his ability...still had plenty juice when I watched last year, esp. vs. Muffalo

Have you had a broken hand before. Have you had a torn labrum.

Would you classify them as dings. Or would you classify them as injuries.

PAcheco has a punishing style, half him punishing, half him being punished. Few humans will last long taking full shots like that. Emmmit didn't take that many full on shots in 5 years of 20 carries/game.

Nothing more admirable than this right here......but looking way ahead....how do you pay a player that will run through a wall no matter how many bruises he takes in the process?

You don't need Dalvin ****ing Cook to manage through this. Pacheco can handle 200+ carries a season. He can be coached up on when to take the risk of contact and running angry and when to save himself. McKinnon, CEH, and undrafted rookie RB can split another 125-175 carries and you have the running game covered.

Stop being such a drama queen, pussy.

You think the Vikings are going to win the Super Bowl?

The problem is CEH and McKinnon are also injury prone...

Deneric Prince is Pacheco sized with speed similar to Pacheco. He’s also got better hands than Pacheco coming out.

I think he’s gonna make the roster

Yes, This will happen in like 2045.

I was unaware you were such a badass.

Why are you wasting time yelling at strangers on the internet and not carving a boat out of the trunk of a tree with your teeth.

People need to hope he's good or they add someone else because Pacheco's style means he could miss games at any time and he's backed up by a midget that can't stay healthy and an aging journeyman that can not play starting snaps.

not with cousins or in this decade

This is Cousins last year there, they are getting ready to go into full rebuild.

The one concern we should have is why exactly is MIN just releasing him if he is healthy? Shouldn't they have tried to trade Cook instead, and tried to get some compensation for a top-10 RB that just came off his 4th consecutive 1,000+yd season?

They did, no one wanted to give up anything for his contract...they just traded Zadarius Smith for basically a ham sandwich.

Minnesota has some serious cap issues, they walked on Eric Kendricks, traded Smith, releasing Cook, they reworked Cousins deal but he's out after this year and they have to find money for Jefferson.

That team is about to go into full and total rebuild.

Ah, okay thx.


Well, I still think Cook will demand more than KC can afford, but man, would it be nice to have him in red and gold.

Unless Jordan Love and Justin Fields develop into good QBs the Lions are about to own the North for awhile.

Anybody advocating for cook better not have been talking about dhops injury history lol


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Cook plays through his stuff though...his injury history is way better than CEH and McKinnons.

As long as the Lions don’t take a WR in the 1st every year.

AR would give him like 8 or 9 carries a game, and no goal line carries

Man, I don't know I think id bring back Damian Williams over these guys. Those dreaming of a Kareem hunt reunion it's not happening. Not his exact words but Clark said something to the effect that he hoped Kareem gets a second chance but it won't be in KC.

Check his stats, bud.

I know about his stats he is a good back for sure but we dont need him we need depth. We have our back in Pacheco.

Cook will want to start and he will want a lot of money.

We have a up and coming back so let's take snaps away from him. It would be different if we really lacked here but we don't.

Well yeah, that’s why I keep saying that Cook isn’t coming to KC. He’s not a backup.

But we can do better than Damien

Agreed but I think Damian is fine for depth and has a good grasp of what Andy likes to do.

Also, Damian is petty good in pass pro.

Mmm, okay, I see your point. Not a huge fan of the idea, but I can see your point.

FYP

Really? You think Saquon is coming to KC?

If you're a Chiefs fan, you'd be a fool to not want Dalvin Cook here and in this offense.

That said, I'd rather throw the resources at a vet impact receiver than at him, and even that could be argued is just a luxury move considering how we won it all with who we had at both RB and WR. And even though I feel Cook would be easier on the pocketbook than either a DHop or an Evans type, his impact for this offense would be as good if not greater than them if you take into account his ability to catch out of the backfield.

Damien is 3 years older gents.

Dalvin is dynamic, but we need to keep our eye on the prize. Save that cap space for other areas.

We have McKinnon, dude.

I don't want to see Clyde in a Chiefs uniform ever again. He steals big plays from other players.

Um, based just on who is actually on the roster, Clyde is about 99% certain to play at least some snaps in 2023. It's literally Pacheco, Jerrick and then CEH.

If it was March, I would tend to agree with your take. But we are a week and a half away from June. Not a huge deal to wait a few days at this point.

I would argue that it is Pacheco, CEH, McKinnon, Perine, Prince. We need to save McKinnon for the stretch and playoffs.

Okay, and I wouldn't necessarily argue otherwise, if we were playing in a bubble, or on Madden. However, it may turn out that we have no choice other than to play McKinnon at RB2 simply because of his multiple skillsets and the size of his catch radius. He's just a bigger target than Clyde is.

Or, what if CEH gets hurt again early in the season? McKinnon thus far as proven to be more available than CEH. So that experiment may not last very long.

lol at anyone who thinks CEH is getting touches over mckinnon

Watch how the next few years play out for them in free agency.

During the middle of the season, he absolutely should. Gotta keep Pacheco/jet fresh and healthy for the playoffs.

that is a good point about stealing plays from other players. How many times have we seen gaping holes but since he's slower than most offensive lineman he just cannot get to those holes where if any other RB was in it would be a 15+ yard gain instead of his 1 yard loss to 1 yard gain.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Releasing RB Dalvin Cook starting tomorrow...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a> Dead Cap<br>2023: $5,101,272 ($2M cash)<br>2024: $3,101,272<br><br>Cap Savings<br>2023: $9,000,000<br>2024: $12,500,000<a href="https://t.co/1ZxxZdOUSd">https://t.co/1ZxxZdOUSd</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1664269298880360457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this piece of shit signing for vet minimum or not

WOW Real hard hitting scoop here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a> Dalvin Cook Would Like To Play For Either <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> Or <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://t.co/APEkDZraDJ">pic.twitter.com/APEkDZraDJ</a></p>&mdash; NFL Rumors (@nflrums) <a href="https://twitter.com/nflrums/status/1664293812674469888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No shit! Of course he wants to play alongside his brother in Buffalo

He’ll be a Dolphin.

Ticket sales aren’t what pay for these clubs

Well I have heard from a cousin, that has a neighbor, that knows a guy that works for the Chiefs, and he says that...

He has poor vision. He has no anticipation of sight of where a hole or seam will open up before it actually opens. This is his PROBLEM!

Ok, sub in fan enthusiasm in addition to ticket sales, as that is what pays for these clubs as well as keeping the current coach and GM employed... They chase vets for tickets sales/enthusiasm and to try to keep their jobs. Also, ticket, parking, concessions and merch sales play a much bigger part than you think and are the backbone of operating revenue.

and makes sense for Buff. Would like to see him here with McKinnon and Pacheco and what a 3 headed monster that would be out of the backfield that provides 3 different styles and needs of running and pass catching. Also it saves the RBs from taking so much beating. Share the beating I say.;)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings have informed Dalvin Cook that he’s being released, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1666806828804739073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Miami Dolphins and Denver Broncos are two of the teams that are expected to have an interest in signing running back Dalvin Cook once he officially is released, per sources. There likely will be others, but those two have been monitoring Cook for weeks.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1666807545015705601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Denver haha, why would he go there?

Denver is trying real hard to bring that Pete Carroll 2015 offense back..

He would be dumb to sign with the Broncos.

Depends on how much he likes scotch

He’s going to the Phins.

Cook is from Miami, McDaniel runs a pretty pass heavy offense (less load for an aging RB), and FL has no state income tax.

I'm hoping whoever signs him has to pay up something significant. Having him on my dynasty team I want enough investment that he gets pushed to the RB1 role without some kind of crappy timeshare. Dolphins seem like best option. I could see Denver working as well with Payton there, looking for his Kamar substitute. It's probably best for the Chiefs if he goes to Denver, because Denver will be irrelevant either way. Miami could take a step forward with Cook.

Miami would be a great location for him because the McDaniels offense needs a RB that can threaten for his scheme.

Another weapon for when Tua inevitably gets hurt.

McDaniel is from the Ratface tree. I don't think he's quite yet demonstrated that he's learned how to break away from that and not have his RB room be a ****ing abattoir

Sign an expensive running back, that will solve all your problems, Denver.

It is the only way to win with Mr High Knees.

He might not be as good as he once was, but he sure did look pretty impressive at times last year:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s 53 seconds of Dalvin Cook being “washed”<br><br>Little heads up, Vikings O-line ranked:<br><br>25th in run-blocking (DVOA)<br><br>31st in stuff rate but 13th in 2nd level run rate. Why is that important?<br><br>It means the offensive line was letting people into the backfield more than anyone… <a href="https://t.co/wCTc6FUJyJ">pic.twitter.com/wCTc6FUJyJ</a></p>&mdash; Chuck Bass (@ChuckBassFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChuckBassFF/status/1664286985945767937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Roger Craig?

Time to sell your fantasy dynasty shares of Javonte Williams

When did Craig boast about doing high knees on a plane?

If you're in a league full of people who know what's up, you'll be selling low. I'd hold for now.

**** Hopkins lets get this guy. We won by not using recievers according to megantron69. MOAR RB's

Not according to me. According to the statistical evidence. You can literally look it up.




Though your idea isn't bad. If the plan is really to use the RBs as a "cheat code" then might as well stock up on great RBs with receiver-ish skills. In 2020, Cook ran for 16 TDs; 3 more than our entire WR room caught in 2022. Behind the 27th worst run-blocking OL in the NFL. Just came off his third consecutive 1,000+ yard season.


He'd be great as a Chief.


Never be able to afford him though. But if he'd play for us on a budget deal, probably heavily incentivized, Veach should take a good, long, hard look at him.

You claim to be this numbers guy and then make a completely fictional comment like this.