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Sometimes you need picks to get rings.

See also: Mahomes

The way to "more rings" is a constant supply of young, less-expensive, top-tier talent surrounding a generational talent or two.

True, but losing Jones is really going to suck, if it happens

but Fisher, Schwartz, Matthew, Hill

They can have him the week before FA for a 1st and change.

losing him anyway


at least get something in return

We cant overpay for past performance in a contract that could look really bad and drag us down by the end of the contract.

As long as we have Mahomes, every year we have a chance at a SB.

Losing a MOTIVATED Jones definitely will suck. Keeping a sour, unmotivated lockerrom concern at $20mm who is willing to miss 8 games to make a point also sucks. The entire scenario kind of sucks!

Yep. I NEVER figured him to be the type of player to pull something like this.

Why? He has already done it once


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Believe me...I would rather see Jones in a Chiefs uniform this year but the longer this goes, the less it seems likely.

What if he holds out and then comes back in week 8 and plays lights out.....win for the Chiefs and win for Jones in his negotiations for a big payday next year.

What if he holds out and plays average or below average.....sucks for the Chiefs and sucks for him because his market value exponentially decreases.

I think the Aaron Donald contract is making everyone a bit skittish in paying a IL near age 30 a long term contract that eats up too much Cap space for what could be/might be a great player.

From my perspective...and as much as we all hate it, we may need to trade this year....and pick up some draft picks in the deal that can pay off for a younger and lower paid talent hungry player wanting to make a name.

Yeah our defense will suffer without Jones to wreak havoc...but you are going to have to learn to adjust somehow.

This isn't about Kelce

I have no freaking idea what I even meant by that, things got a bit saucy last night LMAO

We may have to go the route of New England when they had Brady in his heyday. They were always letting premium talent walk or were traded because of salary cap pressure. If you draft well it's workable. The key is the draft. In Varch I trust.

Thats the danger of waiting will next year to pull the trade lever.

Agreed. We thought when Tyreek left we were screwed. Run is over. Mahomes made it irrelevant when he showed he could throw it short if thats all the defense was going to give him.

We cant pay a 34 year old DT $30 million a year. Mahomes doesn't play defense but shit just seems to work out with his teams.

The "real" crisis is coming when Kelce or Reid retires.

Jones sitting till week 8 is a potential career earnings suicide for him.

What am I missing here?

He appears to be kind of dumb is what you’re missing.

Didn’t work out too well for Leveon Bell.

He's not going to sit until week 8. He'll miss out on a million plus per game until then, and his franchise tag number would shrink drastically for next season. He'd end up costing himself around 20 mil if he did that. I don't think many players are quite that dumb, and especially not CJ.

No question this drama hurts the Chiefs, but it has the potential to be disastrous both professionally and financially for CJ. Hopefully someone figures out how to salvage a Lose/Lose situation so each side can claim a small victory

Not all the cryptic tweet BS. That's bitch boy type of stuff. Never figured him to be the bitch boy Honey Badger type.
Thats why.

Getting hard to give a flying f. Just get this turd out of the punch bowl.

CJ has never impressed me with his smarts...

This....time a million.

You can't really out-think Reid for long....his football acumen is stunning. There should be a statue at 1 Arrowhead Drive for this guy when he retires..and a street leading to the stadium named after him.

Clark Hunt should be appreciated for the fact that he jumped on getting Reid before anyone else had the chance...and wouldn't leave until he came home with him.

When Kelce retires, we are screwed, unless we pick up another Tight End in his mold. I'm not the college expert that some in here are....but I do know there are a couple next year that we could target. Or maybe one of the really good ones that are in the pros right now want to finish their career playing with Mahomes and picking up that elusive SB ring

Honestly...it depends on who is whispering in his ear that the team is vulnerable without him.

Sometimes agents give really bad advice.

Kelce is my favorite Chief All-Time (along with Mahomes, duh), but Reid will adjust and this team will be fine after Kelce retires.

All the "Jones might sit out until week 8" talk is laughable.

In hard negotiations or cards, the key to winning is to get the opponent to believe that you truly will burn it all down when in reality it's just a ploy.

I bet Chris comes back on September 3rd or 4th meaning he has to miss the first guy but is still there to get his check.

If his agent really gets him to miss game checks then fire the agents ASAP

I said we were screwed....not done.

What if Andy retires the same time as Kelce...

Wonder how many fans thought the same thing about Leveon Bell

My problem with Chris Jones is I don't think he has negotiated with the Chiefs in good faith. I'm guessing they had the general parameters of a contract worked out, and then for whatever reason, CJ's camp reneged. I just don't think Veach would have let it get to this point otherwise. He'd have been dealt before the draft.

The exception is not the rule.

Reid is what makes this team go, even more than Mahomes. Expect 1 maybe 2 years of success afterwards.

Unless we fall into another all-time great coach the fall-off will be rough. Can't stay on the mountain top forever.

Chris Jones is a generational talent

We generally assume that the player isn't a complete idiot. Turns out Bell was. We'll see about Chris.

I disagree....these days the exception is the rule

Sure give us a couple picks and Gervon Dexter.

I agree...but sometimes idiots travel in packs. ;)

Wouldn’t be opposed to sending his ass to the Bears next year. Oughtta teach him not to screw with the Chiefs.

Would be one of the dumbest moves in NFL history. No way he will get a contract strong enough to offset $20M of lost income in 2023 and 2024. One would think he's not dumb enough to go down this path, but you never know.

It also isn't all that uncommon that a player over values his worth. Has a contentious hold out and then realizes he screwed up but pride (hurt feelings, whatever) won't allow him to sign with his original team and he goes somewhere else for less money than he could have originally gotten with his original team.

We've seen it in KC and it's happened to other teams. Bell is the extreme example of hurting himself financially but there are less extreme examples of this.

Orlando Brown, lol

Edit: fell for a parody account.

Parody account

Is this Piece of shit signed traded yet?

My apologies, fellas lol... I was just having a night

We should talk about the compensation though - wonder how realistic it is

DT Chris Jones to the Bears. KC receives a 2024 first-rounder, a 2025 second-rounder, and DE Trevis Gipson.

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Never seen a Big Mac with patties that big in my life, bunch of liars :shake:

In a hypothetical trade like this, i just want to clarify the where the picks land. So they would be assigned their number based on how the bears did the previous season, as if it was a bears pick, correct?

how they do this year, yes. I don't think there are high expectations for them and the Lions and the Vikings are expected to be at the top of the division.

I’d sign up for that in a heartbeat

The Bears build their team like it is 1932.

Not necessarily hoping for a trade here. But should a trade occur, maybe a combination of draft picks and existing players would be feasible. I have to admit that I do not follow the Bears very closely. Does anyone here have a short list of Bear players that the Chiefs might be able to use this season?

Our rosters loaded, and they aren't giving up DL when they're trying to make it better. Give us all your draft.

FYP

As for Reid potential retirement, the only way he voluntarily retires within the next 5 years is if he just gets tired of winning the Super Bowl every season. After winning six straight he might just get bored and want a new challenge. In that case I hope we can keep Nagy. He got Trubisky to the playoffs and had a game essentially won if not for a kicker. Maybe he will just stick around with a handshake agreement to replace Reid eventually.

After what Clark did to get Andy, I feel he will set us up with the best possible option for the latter years of Mahomes career. Who that is, idk. But Clark cares a lot about this team. He’s gonna spare no expense to have who he feels is the best to lead this team.

Pickens would be the better option. Gipson offers nothing in trade value.

Speaking of Gipson:

https://nfltraderumors.co/bears-de-t...to-seek-trade/

He's a guy a liked in the past as a potential trade target. 6-4 263 exactly like George Karlaftis but he's in the 34" arm length range. He would be a potential Leo type fit as Clark sometimes played. Standing up and rushing he could be potentially looking at 3-4 teams as a better fit than Chicago. But as much as Spags drops DE's in coverage he might be a decent fit. Would upgrade Herring for sure. Just would not fit as an inside rusher like Danna Omenihus Herring and Karlaftus. Plus he's in the last year of his contract with like 2M plus but even without potential trades KC will have to open up cap space. I only see it as its own trade not a potential Jones trade necessarily. Possible considering Poles and Veach. Gipson has 10 sacks to his resume and is still young and in a contract year

It really wasn't DJ's, but your point stands.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=349549

The Bears are gonna be the most exciting 6-11 team the world has ever seen!

Watching their games used to bore the shit out of me when I was a kid which sucked because they were on tv, a lot.