Frank Clark even if he doesn't play is good juju and a worthy cheerleader.

Make it happen Dart Beach.

Well, fiddlesticks.

Dammit.

Depending on prognosis, might make him an extend or cut candidate.

BAH GAWD KING.... THAT'S FRANK CLARK'S MUSIC

Bummer deal!

Yeah I was thinking the same thing - timeline is probably gonna be in no-mans-land.

Really sucks.

On the positive side, our injuries are spread out across several positions.

One game left, so we aren’t talking about a full season with a lot of potential to lose more guys.

5 injuries at 5 positions isn’t nearly as bad as 5 at one spot. See: Bills linebackers and secondary.

Sucks. Guy is easy to root for.

I'd probably try to get an extension done.

But hell man, we got him so cheap, his base next year is only about $7 million. You get the guy he's been over the latter 1/3 of this season for a half a year and that's worth $7 million.

But yeah, if you can give him a $8 million extension that also kicks about $5 million of that 2024 into 2025, I'd do that. Go ahead and guarantee the money for 2025 and you essentially end up getting the guy on a 3 year, $24 million deal.

That's a bargain.

I hate this for him. Major bummer that he won't be able to live out his dream in the Super Bowl game. The team itself goes limping into the game with a lot of banged up players.

I guess the team can plan better this way. No second guessing strategy of what to do if he can’t go.

So really the only question mark is Willie Gay? No Thuney or Omenihu clearly.

FAU is used to sacking Big 12 quarterbacks. Purdy is going down.

I’m not terribly worried about how this impacts the superbowl, but I’m concerned how this impacts our DL next year. His pass rushing presence on the inside was obviously a factor into giving him a 2 year deal to compensate for the obvious departure of CJ95.

Sucks that we lost him to suspension half of this year and will likely lose him the first half of next year, to injury rehab.

Well that sucks dick

No one is a rookie anymore.

No excuses for FAU not to be able to step up and contribute.

Give Carlos Dunlap a call I’m sure he will missed a few weeks from his restaurant business.

Well the good news is after yesterday, Terrell Suggs is available.

Sucks for him. Super Bowl plus a chance to play his former team.

They competed and won a bunch of games without him - I'm not terribly worried as far as this one game - but yeah the next year part of it blows.

He's gonna have to get on PEDs if he is going to have any chance to look like his normal self before next December.

Beat me to it. Was gonna say Dunlap.

He's too green. Didn't see him enough this year because of the depth at DE. I suppose he can spell Danna for a few snaps but whichever DE lines up against Trent Williams will have their hands full.

well that blows.

Damn that sucks. On the positive side, we did go 5-1 while he was suspended at the beginning of the year and the D played well during that time.

Don't look now but Danna is gone, Chris might be gone and Omenihu is a maybe to come back like he was.

DL could suddenly a big hole

They better lock the **** in and get this ring.

If they were starting to feel themselves a little much, this one brings you back down to earth. Spags is gonna have to have a plan to not allow SF to run behind Trent all night.

I'll worry about September in 2 weeks.

There's a long time between now and training camp.

That really ****ing sucks.

The FA edge rush group is supposed to be very strong this year. Haven't looked at it, but I'd imagine we'll be looking for some value there on a short term deal now.

The 49ers are always the more injured team. They seemed to come away clean yesterday.

Bring back the Shark am I right? :D

let that boy FAU cook. we let george and it paid off. give the kid a chance god dammit.

That really hurts, but we've been "next man up" the entire season. I thought we might struggle a bit without Cook (and then Edwards), but there's Connor. Maybe it's time for FAU to shine.

Frank Clark's greatest play as a Chief was beating Trent Williams for a safety (at 12:35 in the video).

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Frank Clark owns Trent Williams!!111

I bet he is triple bummmed since the we're playing his old team in the SB.

I really don't worry about it a whole lot in terms of it impacting the Super Bowl outcome, I am just really devastated for this guy. Everything was building up to this spot for him. Been awhile since an injury has been this sad, if you will.

But we beat SF without Ogbah and Okafor in LIV. Wbf in that regard. We can worry about next year in March.

Well sonofabitch... sucks for him, sucks for us

FAU better get his ass ready to go STAT

Sounds like it's probably an isolated ACL and not any other ligaments... at least

Sucks, but as long as we don't suffer any in game injuries will still be pretty decent. Guys will get a little tired like 2nd half yesterday, so they will sub in whoever we activate.

Chiefs definitely needed that week off more than SF. Damn we've been dropping guys quick.

If we lose another SB because of injuries I’m going to go ballistic

Good thing we've got our 1st round draft pick, ol what's his name. :shake:

Brock Purdy is not beating Mahomes.

Anyone know what FAU's highest snap count for any game this year was? I'm just curious because I see some saying take the training wheels off him but I'd be really surprised to see Spags use him much considering they've had him inactive during the playoffs.

Nope. But when it happened, you just knew what it was. :banghead:

Luckily, the injury situation isn’t even close to what it was agains the Buccaneers.

We forget that Mahomes had that toe injury for that one too. It’s gets lost because he was Superman behind a garbage OL full of backups.

Allegretti is more than capable at LG for this game. Willie Gay should be back.

We’ve been playing without Cook long enough and been really good regardless.

Our injury situation isn’t great obviously, but that part worries me little.

If injuries pile up in this game, sure that’s an issue. That could go either way though.

I'm as confident as anyone, and believe we will prevail

But don't get too cocky, its a team sport where even sorry ass Jimmy G was able to make things interesting last time around... yeah different teams, different players now I get that too

Just saying Purdy is a better QB than Jimmy

All the knowledgeable gurus in here are scaring me with how disappointed they are over this, obviously not good, but whats an honest take on how much this impacts us? Is the Super Bowl worth throwing the rookie in or does it make sense to sign someone with experience for one game or even longer? Does the freshly drafted DE stand a chance against SF O-line?

If he does, it won't be because of Omenihu or even Thuney.

Allegretti can stand in and play competently (hell, he was genuinely good in a brutal matchup against Madubuike yesterday) and Danna had a career year this year. With no more games to play and a week off, Danna and Karlaftis can empty the tank.

The injuries we've had are irritating, but they don't move the needle a ton. We can overcome both of them.

If the OTs play like they've played thus far in the post-season, Mahomes will have time. If Mahomes has time, we'll move the ball. The defense will keep SF below 24.

If you tell me 27 wins it against a damn average 49ers secondary - I'll take that with Mahomes under center 100 times out of 100. And honestly, with the way this defense has played, 20 could very well be enough.

Well, this sucks. For him, and us.

****

Is he though?

It's certainly disappointing. Definitely weakens a great dline. But we just shut down two more explosive offenses in large part due to the secondary and linebackers. Just no more injuries please.

The 49ers offense as a whole is better. CMC wasn't there last time. Deebo was a rookie. Aiyuk was in college. This is a MUCH better offense than they had last time.

But our defense is much better than last time. This matchup of our defense vs. their offense doesn't worry me more than the last matchup of our defense vs. their offense did.

And while our offense isn't as good now as it was then, I believe their defense has stepped back even more than our offense has.

If this were Madden Off/Def/STs ranking, I'd say:

2019: Chiefs - 95/80/90 for a 88 overall vs. 49ers -- 85/94/90 for an 89 overall

2024: Chiefs -- 88/95/91; 90 overall vs 49ers -- 90/85/90 for an 88 overall

The parts/pieces have moved around a lot but when evaluating the Chiefs I would say our offense is better than the 2019 defense was and this defense is as good as the 2019 offense was. On balance, we've improved. The 49ers offense, because I don't think Purdy is truly excellent, has not improved as much as the 49ers defense has regressed.

I think the 49ers had a better team in '19 than we did but they got outcoached. This team has a better team than the 49ers, IMO - and won't get outcoached.

I'm more worried about the Super Bowl than next season and beyond. Omenihu is important to this defense against the 49ers. A 3rd Super Bowl cements a dynasty. Dealing with next season's issues will be easier with another title.

Besides, the defense is unlikely to improve in 2024. They peaked this year with talent being paid way below league averages. Many on rookie contracts.

Agree with all this, except I’d lower their ST grade a bit. Rookie kicker with very limited exposure in the Super Bowl. He’s missing one in this game I’d bet.

The paper favors the Chiefs right now imo, but paper doesn’t fully account for Mahomes in this game.

49ers outplayed the Chiefs in that Super Bowl for a good portion of the game. Then guess what? QBs have to make throws. Ours did. Theirs didn’t.

Wouldn’t surprise me if that happened again (one QB making the throws that are needed, but I’d be surprised if we got outplayed for much of this one).

In my considered opinion, yes

Purdy has a clearly superior football IQ to my eye

So yeah we agree on the bulk of it here, both teams strengths and weaknesses have basically flipped

My money is on KC of course, but anyone expecting anything other than another nailbiter - even against Mr Irrelevant - are likely to be let down, we'll have to keep scrapping until the bitter end again IMO

Yeah - I was going to do that, but Moody has been nails most of the season. He slipped late but really, Gould was on vapors that last year or two in SF - I don't think Moody is appreciably worse than Robbie Gould was in the SB year. And Wishnowsky pretty much sucked for SF in 2019. He's pretty good now.

I prefer their punter to ours and our placekicker to theirs. I think they will use Deebo if they need a big punt return and we just don't have a guy who we'd put back there like Tyreek if we needed to.

On balance I think the STs are about a wash. Because I think the PK may be more important in a tight game, I'll give us a slight advantage because I think the area we have a slight edge is more important than where they do. I guess the 49ers coverage units are pretty shitty, but I don't think we can really do much against them anyway. I probably should've knocked them down to an 88 or so on STs though - that seems fair with them having a rookie kicker and bad coverage units.

Thats too bad, hes been a great addition to the defense.

Sign Frank Clark!!

They played 2.5 quarters without him yesterday, and were therefore down a body bc they didn’t have FAU dressed. It didn’t ultimately matter.

If we lose, we aren’t gonna be saying “if we had Omenihu!!!!”….

And I love the guy. He’s one of my favorites now. But this isn’t even close to like, Mahomes playing with an ankle sprain.

Back by August?

Odell Beckham tore his in the Rams SB win and was out 11 months. That’s the timeline.

Exactly.

I'd trade an Omenihu and a Thuney for a healthy Mahomes ankle 100 times out of 100.

The guys that will make or break us against SF should be ready and at full gallop.

Injuries won't determine the outcome.

Every body and position is different. Wharton was practicing in training camp which was 9 months after his.

All true, BUT, they did have Aiyuk, Deebo, CMC, Kittle, Trent Williams, and Purdy when we spanked the crap out of them in their own crib last season. Granted Purdy was still backing up Jimmy G, and it was CMC’s first game with them and he was slightly limited, but our guys should be able to pull some confidence from that experience.

Ironically Omenihu also missed that game - but for them, obviously.

Yeah, a guy like Rice for example really needs a soft reset and the impact it could have might offset losing Charles.

I think Rice has clearly been playing through some shit and to have him feeling a lot better would be huge. Again, our team needs this week off more than SF did.

Yeah - he's been getting up slow the last couple weeks. Something in his lower body; knee or ankle -- seems to be bothering him a bit.

I’ll blow some minds here….

Omenihu played six snaps yesterday. 6.

And he made his impact felt with that sack. He’s a beast.

But that tells you right there, they can and should overcome it.

That's ****ing bullshit.

Ass dildos.

And **** Frank Clark.

yeah, hopefully, he comes back fully healthy next year. Going to need DL help when Jones walks.

Not to derail, but what do we know about Edwards? I don't remember what they said during the game.

Our loss today could be our gain next year.

If things don’t go off normal track, he probably regains his full form right about when the playoffs start next year. Maybe plays at Thanksgiving, but it’s gonna take a bit to be his true self yeah.

Yeah this is not a forgone conclusion, despite what Clay might have you believing. That's still a good team over there and Purdy has done nothing but put together postseason success since he's started.

Any injury can determine an outcome of the game. Will it? Probably not. But it absolutely can.

Picking Felix looks big now. One sack or big play and it's an A+ pick early.

Is cook out for sure? Also have the whiners got any injuries

KC had a lot of dudes on the injury list heading into Baltimore game. Rice & Pacheco are two examples on offense that will hopefully be in better shape for this next game. I would throw Kelce in there too, knowing his injury issues this season and his age. Extra rest is good for him.

On defense, Chris Jones has not looked 100% healthy. Obviously it would be nice if Willie Gay can make it back on the field. McDuffie, Sneed, & Josh Williams were on the injury report before the Baltimore game. How about Mike Edwards and Derrick Nnadi? Hopefully all these guys will be feeling a lot better for this next game.

Yeah I’m expecting offense to come out clicking and then stall again. It would be pure orgasm for this game to be the exception but that’s what i expect.


I do think Purdy is kind of an Enigma. Sure he looks good in some games but he hasn’t been on this stage before. The biggest one against the best QB on the other side. Yes he had an amazing game last night but he also layed an egg against the ravens

I think he knew it when he got injured. That's why he was so mad.

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Forever.