Rice is better than Flowers. Bigger body, more explosive (10yard split)

They play different roles.

He is better at catching sideways passes in the Nagy offense.

Adonai Mitchell is the same as Rice, Flowers and Worthy etc.

Seems weird to like one and not the other.

Adonai is the same as tiny Worthy?!


You just said you need size and now your are promoting some 160 lb stick.

Stop.

Adonai is the same as Worthy and Flowers? What makes you say that?

They are all WR's that will be drafted.


LMAO

Mitchell and Rice are similar

Worthy and FLowers are similar

Sorry, my comma wasn't punctuation, i failed 10th grade english, I didn't communicate very well.

Worthy and FLowers are similar


They are both smaller.

Flowers way more explosive and dynamic.

Worthy doesn't change direction or run routes anywhere near Flowers.

Yup. He can fight through tackles and win deep. Thinking he’s only a screen merchant is uneducated fanthink.

Rashee Rice is awesome. He’s an alpha

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Yes, Rashee is way more physical than Zay Flowers.

He's a bully.


Flowers is a more dynamic, explosive route runner.

Rice is a good player but Flowers is better

Titty!? How could you!?

Hmmm. Rice had more receptions, yards, and tds on fewer targets and a higher yards per reception. How is that somehow worse?

GTFOH

Which says a lot considering how he was used.

I wish we had both but you are correct.


Flowers is more of a separator.

LMAO

Holy shit.

You couldn't be more full of shit.

Worthy and Franklin are both far better separators than Mitchell.

But now separation is conveniently the difference?

Running fast in a straight line by shit college corners doesn't mean you will "separate" in the NFL.

Do you consider Mecole Hardman a "separator"?!

Down the field Hardman has never had an issue getting separation. If he had ball tracking skills, then we could actually have taken advantage of it far more often.

Who's the ALPHA?

The guy that had ice in his veins and delivered when he had to all the way through the SB? Or the guy that choked and beat up a bench after?

There you go.

If Mecole is your version of good at separating why are we discussing this?!

LMAO

I didn't say he's good at separating everywhere, but he has never had an issue getting separation down the field, just like he did in the SB.

Again, his issue has ALWAYS been ball tracking. Nobody has ever said that Hardman can't get open on those vertical routes.

Why do you do this? Why are you incapable of being objective?

When do the t-shirts come out?

It's what he does. He's a child.

Watching "The Dynasty: The New England Patriots" on Apple TV.

Binge watching this now. Episode 4 they describe how the Patriots dynasty finally fell to Manning's Colts.

The Patriots realized they needed some new fresh offensive blood.

They needed an Alpha WR.

They call Randy Moss to kickstart the continuation of domination.

And how many rings did they win with Randy Moss?

Lolz!

Shocked that dipshit thumbed down my response. Can you be any more of childish asswipe?

MM, this is what an Alpha post looks like.

Not that you’d understand anything about the word

Yeah, if only they had the wonderful Skyy Moore or a tiny slot WR that would get bullied instead they would have gone undefeated instead of losing the SB.


This is called brain damage.

;)

If only they'd had tiny slot WR zay FLowers.

Yeah, who need Flowers when you have Justin Watson and Skyy Moore?


Too bad Mahomes holding back these Superior talents...



:evil:


Just more copy and paste from DJ's Word Salad specials from last year.

Flowers did enough to hold himself back, what with his penalties and fumbles

Yeah, I don't care about your evaluation of WR's, sorry.


You thought Mahomes was holding back the great Mecole, MVS, Skyy triumvirate.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...GYINUtuthTUg&s

Once Pat played to his standards in the playoffs and MVS caught the ball, we won a superbowl.

Sorry you were wrong. I feel bad.

The irony is just...

Don't feel bad for being ignorant.

What’s it like being wrong about everything you speak about MM?

Does it get frustrating thinking you’re the smartest guy in the room when you’re really sitting in the corner jacking off with booger hands?

I don't know, what's it like being a dumb little tubby?


;)


I like my life better, thanks.

Oh sure.

We all believe you live an absolutely charmed life when you’re functionally reeruned

LMAO

Like, Like Literally?

One had Mahomes

Only incels who live in their parents' basement and spend their time jerking off to Jordan Peterson videos throw terminology around like 'alpha'-despite not knowing what it really means because they hope it makes them seem like 'alphas' through association. It's about as pathetic as it gets.

Keep your political opinions in DC.

:LOL:

I need to feed some of these dudes dick to get their T levels up some betas in here

If you said Andrew Tate, this post would've been perfect, but Jordan Peterson?

LMAO

I love ya Meck, but sounds like you haven't actually listened to Jordan Peterson.

About to ban the next person who refers to a WR with that term.

Yeah, I started almost this exact same post and decided I didn't care that much. Or maybe I just listen to the wrong discussions with Peterson.

But I like the guy. Now sometimes he'll just talk in circles (word salad doesn't do it justice at times) but for the most part I find him very insightful and extremely smart.

Andrew Tate, OTOH, I do not.

I think Peterson is a smart guy who says some things that may appeal to the 'incel' crowd, though I think he tries to speak largely at a societal level more than anything. Tate, OTOH, simply knows he has a specific audience and caters to them.

Wait just a damn minute now, who gave you a Ban Button?

****ing shenanigans. I want a ban button!

Couldn't agree more. Peterson is a solid guy with good intentions, while Andrew Tate is a red pill caricature and very likely a POS.

I've had it in the draft forum for years.

What the **** are you talking about?

McLaurin was 6 ft/208
Campbell was 6 ft/205

If you’re trying to make yourself look prone to pulling wild and inaccurate statements out of your ass, you’re doing a great job.

Already addressed this.


The larger point is that Paris was the volume slot and the draft entertainment industry were all excited about Parris and not the better WR prospect on the same team.

That's happening again with Mitchell and Worthy.

I am on record, for a very long time, in saying that I want a big receiver.

AD Mitchell is a very good route runner, and he isn't the flashy pick, but he would be super solid with Mahomes.

I encourage people to watch Mitchell's highlights/film from his time with Georgia. He looked much more dynamic. I don't know if it was QB play, or just a different offense, but Mitchell isn't as impressive at Texas as he was at Georgia.

One started every game this season too. I'd say it balances out.

Alpha WR, shoot for Mike Evans

On thin ****ing ice.

Yikes on your 4.6

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:hmmm:

Yeah I liked the route running and hands before this. Now I'm convinced Mitchell is the guy...but also that he'll probably go too early for us. Bummer.

Legitimately wowed by 4.35 by Mitchell. When a guy looks 4.60 on tape consistently and then runs that speed at the combine (despite about a 0.05 delay in the timer starting with his motion), I'm just kind of like hmm, why did he never play up to that speed because it's no doubt there? It helps his case a ton but now I have as many questions going the other way.

Aside from Mitchell, I think Ladd McConkey helped himself a ton by coming in and being a legit 6'0" and running a 4.39.

Franklin not running sub-4.4 is not what I expected. Though we never expected DeVonta Smith to be 4.54 either.

Isaiah Williams running 4.64 pretty much killed his stock for me, as did Coleman running 4.61.

Mitchell firmly replaced Coleman as a 1st rounder. Worthy may have leaped Franklin as a first-rounder. McConkey is absolutely there in that discussion as well.

Legette helped himself the most.

I need to spend more time on him.

If his routes are good enough I move him ahead of Worthy and Franklin.

Don't cycle into plain idiocy. He's nowhere near Worthy or Franklin. And let's not act like Franklin is slow and he's certainly not bad. This is an incredibly fast WR class. 4.41 is still cookin. 4.45 is a benchmark you want to get to with your WRs AND 4.41 is probably about the lower end for Franklin. He didn't run a 4.6.

Any statement that moves anyone ahead of Worthy is probably just ridiculous at this point. Worthy is going up, not down. 4.21 official is one of the fastest times in history and the fastest ever at the combine.

He is certainly Worthy of our pick in first!!

Well, you said having Adonai ahead of Worthy was crazy too and I expect that NFL teams will agree.

Adonai got himself into the 1st round conversation and may be considered over Franklin because of his size. He was not a 1st round prospect or even in the discussion. Worthy already was.

There's still a solid chance Adonai doesn't go in the 1st.

I think there is no doubt about 5 of them going in the 1st and Worthy is in that group of 5. Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Worthy, Thomas. Those guys are going in 1, for sure. Zero doubt.

After those it's going to be preferences between Mitchell, McConkey, and Franklin IMO with only 1 of the 3 possibly sneaking in.

I don't think Adonai moved anywhere. The teams looking at him were already in the 20's...

Cowboys
Ravens
Bills
Steelers

This was pre-combine


maybe some of the twitter kids will move him now.

Those teams also pick in the high 50's where his draft stock has been sitting the entire time. Not the 20s

My entire Longhorns forum had the same thought when we saw that 4.34 pop up.

Most of us were hoping to see him break 4.5.

It was never going to be a late 2.


He was always a 1st round prospect.

:hmmm:

What a weird bump after Worthy also lit the combine up.

Plus, this is the "underwear Olympics". You don't even value it.

It’s not nothing. It’s slightly overrated.

My top guys remain the same.

Adonai is my next WR after Odunze, that didn’t change.

I do look forward to watching Twitter declare people are now moving up and down the boards.

;)


And watching the analytics guys twist themselves in pretzels over Mitchell.

He was just so prepared today!!!

;)

Yes, it was. I don't know what you're referencing but not a single source I reference ever had him in the 1st round conversation. Some had him in the mid-30s to mid-40s but very few. One was Brugler, which is why I gave you more benefit of the doubt on the thought and told you I wouldn't bash you about thinking he could be our 1st round pick.

But now you're just talking shit and it's kind of just like... he might still not be a 1st round pick. Hell, I'd say it's more likely than not he doesn't crack the 1st. His production isn't that great and he doesn't pop on tape very often. And teams go back to the tape. He never once looked 4.34 fast on tape. Never. He doesn't look good in his routes. So there's a lot to digest there for teams.

Personally, I like that he did come in heavier and faster than expected. But he's still in that group that couldn't crack 1000 yards in college. He never cracked 900 yards. So he's kind of in that McConkey, Coleman, Walker, Wilson, Pearsall, etc group where you have to project a bit more.

Looks way better on his routes and as a football player than tiny Worthy who is 40 lbs lighter.

But we are just talking in circles now.

Yeah because I disagree with you 200% on Worthy before we even get to what I've already said about Mithcell.