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Imon Yourside 02-29-2024 06:46 PM

I think James Hasty could step right into this role and do fine.

staylor26 02-29-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17423156)
They’re about to pay out the ass for Fields. And they just cut their backup TE. I’d pick up Jonnu Smith and kick the tires though.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

A lot of smoke that they're going to go all-in on Cousins.

If that's the case, they'll probably be agressive everywhere else too. That's a win now move.

Dunerdr 02-29-2024 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17423255)
I wouldn't be so sure of that.

A lot of smoke that they're going to go all-in on Cousins.

If that's the case, they'll probably be agressive everywhere else too. That's a win now move.

Personally I’d take the Kirk stability over the Fields gamble. UNLESS you’re willing to Lamar Jackson style run him into the ground on the rookie contract and be willing to move on after his rookie contract. If you’re willing to pull out all the stops and use all of his traits I might lean that way. But even then a pocket passer >what fields has been so far.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-01-2024 07:59 AM

Haven’t heard much buzz about the Rams being a trade partner but truthfully that shouldn’t surprise us whatsoever if that turns out to be the case

Dunerdr 03-01-2024 08:03 AM

Rams!
 
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DenverChief 03-01-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17423580)
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What did I miss?

Dunerdr 03-01-2024 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17423623)
What did I miss?

Nothing actually just pugs saying the rams could be involved. Just a joke because they’ll trade the farm for anything

Nightfyre 03-01-2024 12:04 PM

Nate Taylor indicated that six teams have expressed interest in Sneed.

BigBeauford 03-01-2024 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17424087)
Nate Taylor indicated that six teams have expressed interest in Sneed.

Hell yeah, let's start the bids! Do I hear a 2nd and a 4th?

raybec 4 03-01-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17424087)
Nate Taylor indicated that six teams have expressed interest in Sneed.

That would be great if it's true. Unfortunately there have been times where what Nate Taylor says he's hearing has been way off the mark.

DenverChief 03-01-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17423707)
Nothing actually just pugs saying the rams could be involved. Just a joke because they’ll trade the farm for anything

LMAO

kcbubb 03-01-2024 03:46 PM

Has Vegas put out any odds on who might trade for sneed?

In58men 03-02-2024 09:49 AM

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BigRedChief 03-02-2024 09:59 AM

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We'd give you our first but that knee.... we will give you a 2nd and 5th.

Dunerdr 03-02-2024 10:58 AM

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And the concussions

Calcountry 03-02-2024 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17422206)
A sneed’s a fine something that all people need

So I biggered my Factories, I biggered my roads, because a sneed is something that everyone everyone needs.

staylor26 03-02-2024 03:46 PM

Guys, Toney Pauline is absolutely ****ing useless. Stop posting him.

Dunerdr 03-02-2024 04:22 PM

I’d like to take a second to ponder the thought that Sneed may have never been in the Chiefs long term plan’. That knee may be why. They found out just how bad JuJus was and offered him more money to restructure in a way that it made him play every game to get that money. With Mahomes eating as much cap as he does, it doesn’t make a ton of sense to risk any considerable amount to a guy who may end up missing a lot of time.

RedinTexas 03-03-2024 07:55 AM

I'm seeing some stuff about the Vikings possibly trading Justin Jefferson to the Chiefs. I also saw something that identified CB as one of their needs, though a little down the list. Is it possible that the Chiefs are working a deal to trade Sneed to the Vikings for Jefferson with whatever other compensation might be necessary there?

Balto 03-03-2024 08:14 AM

How bout Titans? Reading that they have OL and CB as two biggest draft needs. They could also throw Hopkins into the deal which I believe would only be around $10M cap hit to us.

Titans get:
Sneed

Chiefs get:
#38
Hopkins

Titans can take their OT at #7 and fix the CB position with Sneed.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-03-2024 08:21 AM

Here we go!

In58men 03-03-2024 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17426088)
I'm seeing some stuff about the Vikings possibly trading Justin Jefferson to the Chiefs. I also saw something that identified CB as one of their needs, though a little down the list. Is it possible that the Chiefs are working a deal to trade Sneed to the Vikings for Jefferson with whatever other compensation might be necessary there?

We just won the Super Bowl with Rice/MVS/Hardman. I don’t see the Vikings giving us a HUGE upgrade piece in Jefferson. That would basically solidify another SB lol.

Dunerdr 03-03-2024 08:33 AM

Jefferson would still require two 1s sneed and a second. Nah.

Jamie 03-03-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17426111)
Jefferson would still require two 1s sneed and a second. Nah.

Not to mention a contract bigger than the one we wouldn't give Tyreek.

Dunerdr 03-03-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 17426115)
Not to mention a contrast bigger than the one we wouldn't give Tyreek.

Just not possible to have Mahomes and JJ on the same team and field a team around them.

bigjosh 03-03-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 17426115)
Not to mention a contrast bigger than the one we wouldn't give Tyreek.


To be fair, tyreek was on his third contract heading into his 30s.

Jefferson is 24


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BigRedChief 03-03-2024 09:12 AM

Jefferson? Really? Just give them our #1 in 2024, another #1 in 2025 and pay him $30 million a year for 5 years?

In which multiverse does Veach make that move? When has he ever did that? We just won 2 SB's with at best, average WR's. Come on CP, we don't have to mortgage the future to win a SB.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-03-2024 09:16 AM

Minnesota isn’t trading JJ anyways. He’s gonna be there for the rookie they’re about to go get at QB.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-03-2024 09:17 AM

This POS still here?

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17426088)
I'm seeing some stuff about the Vikings possibly trading Justin Jefferson to the Chiefs. I also saw something that identified CB as one of their needs, though a little down the list. Is it possible that the Chiefs are working a deal to trade Sneed to the Vikings for Jefferson with whatever other compensation might be necessary there?

From who? ROFL we aren't trading for Jefferson

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2024 09:19 AM

In what world do we have the cap for a 30 million WR without GUTTING the defense?

bigjosh 03-03-2024 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17426140)
Jefferson? Really? Just give them our #1 in 2024, another #1 in 2025 and pay him $30 million a year for 5 years?

In which multiverse does Veach make that move? When has he ever did that? We just won 2 SB's with at best, average WR's. Come on CP, we don't have to mortgage the future to win a SB.


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Umm frank clark?

Frank clark was:
-less established at his position.
-more expensive in total cap percentage than Jefferson is looking to be


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Al Czervik 03-03-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17426145)
In what world do we have the cap for a 30 million WR without GUTTING the defense?

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In58men 03-03-2024 09:38 AM

A lot of mocks have Colts taking CB @ 15. They would be an interesting trade partner. We swap 1st rounders with them and they get Sneed.

I feel like we should still get another pick from them, like their 4th?

BigRedChief 03-03-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426157)
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Umm frank clark?

Frank clark was:
-less established at his position.
-more expensive in total cap percentage than Jefferson is looking to be


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It wasn't 2 #1's. And it was a horrible deal that Veach will never repeat. We wernt even paying Mahomes yet. You guys need to live in the real world.

Chris Meck 03-03-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426157)
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Umm frank clark?

Frank clark was:
-less established at his position.
-more expensive in total cap percentage than Jefferson is looking to be


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We weren't paying Mahomes then. Big difference.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2024 09:42 AM

If you were going to pay a WR that much and go YOLO on defense...you just keep Reek. This isn't how Veach is building the team thankfully.

Easiest way to a championship? Give your HOF QB a top defense.

ghak99 03-03-2024 09:44 AM

I didn't expect this much reerunation.

Thread delivered.

bigjosh 03-03-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17426165)
We weren't paying Mahomes then. Big difference.


We currently have a projected 100m in cap available for 2025, and if jawan taylor underperforms this year we can free up 20m more by cutting him.

Theres money there.

Signings this year have more impact on 2025 money than the first year. And the contract structure the chiefs use doesn’t handicap them into paying huge dead money for late year cap casualty.


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Chris Meck 03-03-2024 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426175)
We currently have a projected 100m in cap available for 2025, and if jawan taylor underperforms this year we can free up 20m more by cutting him.

Theres money there.

Signings this year have more impact on 2025 money than the first year. And the contract structure the chiefs use doesn’t handicap them into paying huge dead money for late year cap casualty.


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Two thirds of the roster are free agents in 2015. No we don't.

Rainbarrel 03-03-2024 09:51 AM

They'll lock Skyy in a room with a radioactive spider first

VAChief 03-03-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17426162)
A lot of mocks have Colts taking CB @ 15. They would be an interesting trade partner. We swap 1st rounders with them and they get Sneed.

I feel like we should still get another pick from them, like their 4th?

We would be lucky to get the 15th let alone another 4th. I would be effing thrilled with a low 2nd and maybe a 4th/5th.

If you can get 5 picks between 32 and 100 and there is talent to fill some of our holes and save some money for some FA bargains as well.

bigjosh 03-03-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17426176)
Two thirds of the roster are free agents in 2015. No we don't.


And we will have added 12-15 draft picks to that roster by then.


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In58men 03-03-2024 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 17426180)
We would be lucky to get the 15th let alone another 4th. I would be effing thrilled with a low 2nd and maybe a 4th/5th.

If you can get 5 picks between 32 and 100 and there is talent to fill some of our holes and save some money for some FA bargains as well.

Swapping first round picks, plus they get Sneed seems like a win for the Colts more so than the Chiefs.

Chris Meck 03-03-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426190)
And we will have added 12-15 draft picks to that roster by then.


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No, it's a bad idea.

bigjosh 03-03-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17426202)
No, it's a bad idea.


Oh im not advocating for it.

Im just saying its not impossible and i wouldnt be mad if that is what happened.

I think we have a potential to get our own justin Jefferson in the draft, even if we dont move up.


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bigjosh 03-03-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426209)
Oh im not advocating for it.

Im just saying its not impossible and i wouldnt be mad if that is what happened.

I think we have a potential to get our own justin Jefferson in the draft, even if we dont move up.


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My preference is to sign mooney for an identical contract to the MVS one, take legette at 32, and address TE later in the draft.

This makes our offense dangerous on every level of the field like it was in 2018.


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tredadda 03-03-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17426165)
We weren't paying Mahomes then. Big difference.

Plus KC had just lost the AFCCG because the defense was atrocious. They needed to change the culture and Clark was one part of that.

UChieffyBugger 03-03-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426214)
My preference is to sign mooney for an identical contract to the MVS one, take legette at 32, and address TE later in the draft.

This makes our offense dangerous on every level of the field like it was in 2018.


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Yep totally agree. The more I look at Leggett the more interesting he becomes. And Mooney is an obvious move to me.

dtrain 03-03-2024 11:01 AM

Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9

bigjosh 03-03-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17426262)
Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9


That puts us in range for odunze, alt or nabers


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smithandrew051 03-03-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17426262)
Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9

That would mean that we received the equivalent of pick 23-ish for Snead.

No brainer if the Bears would accept that.

The Franchise 03-03-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17426262)
Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9

Once again....why wouldn't the Bears just re-sign their own CB who is a FA? Jaylon Johnson is pretty damn good himself.

dtrain 03-03-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17426271)
Once again....why wouldn't the Bears just re-sign their own CB who is a FA? Jaylon Johnson is pretty damn good himself.

It doesn’t have to be the Bears

nychief 03-03-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17426262)
Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9

You are out of your ****ing mind if you think the Bears would ever do this. Sneed isn't as valuable as one would think...because they have to pay him too.

SAGA45 03-03-2024 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17422800)
That said we really don't have a lot of leverage. There's no reason for any team to offer more than a mid-2nd...

Depends on the demand, right? There are teams bidding against each for Sneed's services. Veach can leverage those against each other, can he not?

TwistedChief 03-03-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17426262)
Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9

Do people not know who Jaylon Johnson is? Or that Sneed and 32 wouldn’t get you anywhere close to 9?

Maybe let’s not debate every trade proposal made on social media comments.

Dunerdr 03-03-2024 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17426332)
Do people not know who Jaylon Johnson is? Or that Sneed and 32 wouldn’t get you anywhere close to 9?

Maybe let’s not debate every trade proposal made on social media comments.

It’s crack smoking Sunday! Grab a pipe!

VAChief 03-03-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17426444)
It’s crack smoking Sunday! Grab a pipe!

This is more likely and could turn out well for us depending on how the board falls. If you get the Lions 61st and 92nd pick, then you have 32, 61, 64, 92 and 96. Lots of room for Veach to maneuver to move up and get the guys you want. Even at 32, if you have a WR sitting there in the high 20's you might be able to move up with someone like the Packers who are pretty set at WR with young guys.

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Trade compensation could include multiple Day 2 picks:
Our initial estimation of trade compensation might have been on the conservative side. I felt that given his resume, a top-100 pick and a late-round pick in 2024 were the best-case scenario, but it sounds like Brett Veach is firm in his asking price. Multiple sources have suggested that the Chiefs could receive as many as two picks on Day 2 in 2024 for Sneed, with a Day 3 pick swap between the two clubs in 2025 where KC would send back a higher pick. That's even with recent rumors about some teams flagging Sneed's lingering knee injury as a potential issue (keep in mind, he only missed preseason games with that injury).

tredadda 03-03-2024 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrain (Post 17426262)
Saw this trade idea in comments Snead and #32 to Bears for #9

Poles learned from Veach. Zero chance he makes that lopsided of a trade in favor of KC.

RunKC 03-03-2024 01:57 PM

I’d be more than happy if the Chiefs got 61 and 92 for Sneed

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2024 03:05 PM

Then you take that Lions offer to every NFC team...

BossChief 03-03-2024 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17426473)
I’d be more than happy if the Chiefs got 61 and 92 for Sneed

So would I.

We will probably get more, though.

Everyone saw what Sneed did out there against the best WR every week.

If we don’t get trade value, we will keep him on the tag. Maybe twice.

TambaBerry 03-03-2024 05:25 PM

A late 2nd round pick would be disgusting.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-03-2024 05:47 PM

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ThyKingdomCome15 03-03-2024 06:16 PM

Word is look out for the Dolphins and Lions.

Chiefshrink 03-03-2024 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17426642)
A late 2nd round pick would be disgusting.an INSULT !!

FYP !!

pugsnotdrugs19 03-03-2024 06:29 PM

I think this Jones deal is about to get done…

Coogs 03-03-2024 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17426691)
I think this Jones deal is about to get done…

Where is the money coming from? Mahomes?

bigjosh 03-03-2024 06:42 PM

How tf does our cap space keep disappearing?


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Red Dawg 03-03-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17426691)
I think this Jones deal is about to get done…

Since last summer that's the news.

Chief Pagan 03-03-2024 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17426694)
Where is the money coming from? Mahomes?

Isn't the money effectively coming from the other players on the D who you will have to let walk and the opportunity cost of not being able to sign FA LT or WR, or at least having to go cheaper with any vet signings???

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-03-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17426702)
How tf does our cap space keep disappearing?


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How the **** do we only have 3 million?? Didn’t we release MVS? Shouldn’t that have freed up 12 mil. Nevermind, that includes the 19 mil franchise tag for sneed

Okchief80 03-03-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17426708)
Isn't the money effectively coming from the other players on the D who you will have to let walk and the opportunity cost of not being able to sign FA LT or WR, or at least having to go cheaper with any vet signings???

I thought it was both Mahomes and players we can’t sign. The contract probably won’t be structured heavy against the first year cap.

Chief Pagan 03-03-2024 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Okchief80 (Post 17426718)
I thought it was both Mahomes and players we can’t sign. The contract probably won’t be structured heavy against the first year cap.

Well sure it's a combination. But, say for example, the Jones contract pays him ~100 million or whatever.

Doesn't matter when it pays or what Mahomes does.

That money comes out of the cap. The 'Mahomes' money could have gone into second contracts for other players on D or other FA signings.

Dunerdr 03-03-2024 07:06 PM

The Jones deal basically has to be done by free agency otherwise we may be keeping sneed.

Coogs 03-03-2024 07:41 PM

Nick Allegretti is probably gone too. I have read/heard he wants to be a starter somewhere.

Chief Pagan 03-03-2024 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17426728)
The Jones deal basically has to be done by free agency otherwise we may be keeping sneed.

I'm shocked I tell you tell, absolutely shocked.

Or maybe not.

KingPriest2 03-03-2024 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17426717)
How the **** do we only have 3 million?? Didn’t we release MVS? Shouldn’t that have freed up 12 mil. Nevermind, that includes the 19 mil franchise tag for sneed

No you’re right. It should be 20 mil or so

We had 28 with the cap increase.

12 mil movs. 40 mil

19.8 Sneed

20 mil

But what happed looking at over the Cap

28 mil

Sneed

9.4 mil

Now we are down to 3.4

Where the 6 mil decrease come from?

And MVS is still not updated in it

Red Dawg 03-03-2024 09:29 PM

They may as well give up on Jones. We obviously won't meet the number he wants.


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