Happens all the time.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...es-2018-03-20/

https://apnews.com/article/niagara-f...a4d96eccd179b9

I think there are many cruise ships that use that port too. They are ****ed.

I was just about to comment that it would likely be the harbor pilot in charge of the ship. That person is going to know everything about the terrain and the currents, so it had to be a ship malfunction.

Maybe the ship lost power. (Checks thread.) Yeah, that might be it.

Wow, that's interesting about limiting traffic. I wonder how they did that.

Seriously? FFS.

Not sure the harbor pilot gets onboard that early. My sister has a female friend that is a harbor pilot master at Port of Philly/Delaware and I believe she takes over within a short distant when she boards the ship. She makes insane amounts of money. Dangerous job.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gov. Wes Moore confirms that the ship&#39;s crew issued a mayday and communicated they were experiencing a power issue, enabling transportation officials to halt traffic over the bridge. &quot;These people are heroes. They saved lives last night,&quot; Moore said.</p>&mdash; Justin Fenton (@justin_fenton) <a href="https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/1772629105881632880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They just said on TV that they were able to close the bridge, and from the video, it looks like no cars or trucks were on the bridge aside from the construction trucks filling potholes. 6 construction workers unaccounted for, 2 survivors.

I hadn't read the whole thread yet, so I missed the 32,000 mentions of potential power loss. Oops!

I imagine there's a decent chance your car would get pinned underneath the top half of the bridge that falls on top of you... terrifying.

Hay guyz - it's all ball bearings anymore, and ball bearings make power.

Duh.

amazing

Read.


The.


Thread.

:facepalm:

The Baltimore Mayor looks like he is 14.,

That's amazing.

Do you think they lost power?

I just heard that the ship didn't have power.


Terrorists probably detonated a small EMP on board.

Yes.

I wouldn't be shocked to find out the ship has had problems with it often in the not-so-distant past and decided to say **** it and bring it in anyway.

The odds of the power going out at that point after a long voyage without any warning signs is astronomical.


(Hook, line, and sinker Bear. You got me LMAO)

Will be close to 2 years, once they get the right plan in place

Yes, economically it will ***K the Balt. Port.

The regular ship pilot Captain and crew relinquish control of the ship to the Harbor Patrol crew and Pilot to navigate large container ships through the Harbor. This Harbor is considered a calm harbor so Tugs are not required to help the navigation.

So they knew this was going to happen so they slowed traffic but couldn’t eliminate it or get the workers off the bridge in time? Brutal.

There's a thread in the DC about this being some sort of elaborate attack.

Of course there is....because they're ****ing idiots.

There are definitely some kooks out there. This idiot is claiming that the aircraft warning lights, that you can clearly see flashing on and off before the collision, are actually explosive charges designed to bring down the bridge.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yep these definitelly look like some kind of small explosive charges...🤷*♂️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KeyBridgecollapse?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KeyBridgecollapse</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZubCcuUTLM">pic.twitter.com/ZubCcuUTLM</a></p>&mdash; Q - 17thAutistic Division - Q+ (@AutistDivision) <a href="https://twitter.com/AutistDivision/status/1772637393184559535?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Douchebags can't even wait for them to pull bodies out of the water before turning all attention towards themselves... :shake:

It's what this country has become and it's ****ing pathetic.

This sounds like the worst job in the world. Randomly taking control of all kinds of different ships with different loads at the last minute and having to basically parallel park a semi with millions of dollars of cargo and ships on the line. Not enough money in the world for me to do something like that, glad to hear the poster above saying they are well compensated, sounds deserved.

Downvote me some more, you DC ****s.

Has it been proposed yet that George Soros parachuted onto the deck and took control of the ship?

No stress there, at all.

:eek:

Yeah I watched something on a boat pilot navigating large ships into/out of Norway using a river system to get to open sea

They showed 3D imaging of how close the boats got to everything underwater and I was riddled with anxiety just watching it on tv

It's 3 PM so she may be passed out drunk already.

And don't forget crawling out onto a ladder between two ships in stormy weather.

When I did my freighter trip, the first thing we did was leave San Francisco Bay. It was dark and the water was choppy, and when the harbor pilot left the ship they pulled the pilot boat right next to the hull and then put a gangplank across to a tiny door in the hull of the freighter, and the pilot crossed over. Apparently the system works, but it seemed like a lot of stuff could go wrong in that system.

It seems like the transfer would have happened after we crossed under the Golden Gate Bridge into the ocean, but I seem to remember that the pilot got off between the Bay Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge. Maybe at that point they can set a straight course to go under the Golden Gate? Or maybe that area is wide enough where the regular captain could easily get it under the bridge. But it seems like the pilot would stay on until the freighter is out of any areas of congestion and stuff you can hit, like bridge pilings.

I just drove over that bridge the other day.

Man oh man

Those barges and ships are just so so so heavy. I imagine it would take down almost any bridge if they run into it. I never really even thought about it but you basically are at their peril anytime you drive over one.

Wow Jennifer Homendy NTSB Chair got to the accident scene at 6 am she said proudly. This happened at 1:30 am. In her presser, she looked disheveled and unprepared. DC isn't far, why does this administration always start their press conferences with me me me?

Just give us the pertinent facts as are known at that time.

Sometimes....shit happens. It just happens.

based on that Twitter user name, I'm guessing it's satire/troll?

Those to me look like lights on structures in the background.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jesus Campos, a construction worker who knows the crew, said the men were from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Mexico. They are in their 30s and 40s and have spouses and children.<br><br>“They are hard-working, humble men,” he said.<br><br>More updates to come for <a href="https://twitter.com/BaltimoreBanner?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BaltimoreBanner</a>. <a href="https://t.co/dhMoFTiU7I">pic.twitter.com/dhMoFTiU7I</a></p>&mdash; clara longo de freitas (@claralfreitas) <a href="https://twitter.com/claralfreitas/status/1772679257010925915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't understand how they could get the cars off but not these workers.

Tough to say with the info we have. They probably just stopped inbound traffic on both sides and let all the vehicles clear off. The bridge is about 1.5 miles long, so for all we know, this might have happened so quickly that they didn't realize that the construction crews were out there.

TaQo John, is that you?

Yep, they were in the middle by the looks of it with their orange flashing lights on the trucks. They were probably filling potholes and didn't even realize what was going on until it was too late. They literally closed the bridge about 20 seconds before it fell as you can see a truck going over and then no cars either way and then 20 seconds later it falls. Those flashes could have been power lines snapping as well if they were running across the bridge.

Does it take a god damn pig farmer to come up with the idea of an emergency anchor system. Mash a ****ing button and drop 4 anchors the size of a house! Geez!

I haven't seen a collapse that quick in Maryland since the Chiefs went into Baltimore and laid an ass whooping on the Ravens

I thought you were going to recommend tying a bunch of giant pigs to the side of the ship as bumpers. :shrug:

It would still take at least 3 miles.

He's not really a "hands on" kind of guy.

Well, unless literal nazis ask him to tag along...

You don't know that. You're guessing. Anyway all it takes is for one anchor to snag a tree root and BAM! STOPPED!

Can you imagine what it musta been like driving on that bridge when that happened?

I mean, ****.

I think my first thought woulda been, "ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME???"

I picture driving down the bridge like any other night only to feel weightless then you are suddenly under water and can’t get the door open.

I know that a ship traveling at 16 knots takes about 6 miles, so you are correct.

But it's still an educated guess.

I can see the Captains resume for his next job application.

Describe why you left your last job:

I got fired for destroying the Baltimore bridge. But it wasn't my fault. Jeremy thought he was playing a joke on me and turned off the ignition switch and hid the keys.

They will get some cranes in there and have the port opened up in a few weeks. Its the traffic that's gonna suck.

And in that moment you'd be like, "ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME???"

Given how much money currently isn't flowing into that port, I'd be surprised if it takes more than a week to at least get a lane open. There are a **** ton of companies that will lose a **** ton of money with all those ships sitting idle.

Then you have to open or smash the window...swim on out. then it's get to shore or land and take them cloths off. Next it's a constant rub down and movement. Don't stay still.

It's not hat simple but there will be some kind of round the clock work. I'd say at least a month. They should be planning right now and getting equipment in place.

good reason why Norfolk has the bridge-tunnels. Suspect Norfolk will be taking on a lot of the Eastern seaboard commerce from Baltimore for a while.

Never been on that bridge. But I spent a great deal of time recently in the southeast and have traveled over the Talmadge bridge that spans the Savannah River in Savannah and the Cooper River bridge in Charleston.

Amazing seeing the size of those ships navigating a channel so narrow and passing side by side with another of the same breadth.

There is a proposal to raise the Talmadge bridge another 20 feet to nearly 200 feet, so that the largest container ships can pass underneath. They’ll replace the cables and and raise the bridge that way.

I’ve taken a tour on a ship through the Savannah River and you can see the graffiti on the underside of the bridge where merchant marine folks had climbed to the top of the container as they passed the bridge and wrote messages underneath.

Kinda like after every shooting.

it took 13 months to rebuild I35 in MPLS. Just for comparison.

I haven't read the thread but my guess is the ship lost power

In a way, building the bridge is rather academic. It's doing that while maintaining some level of port operations that's the harder part.

I have to imagine that the design process will slow things down, too. I'm sure there will be endless debates about how to make it so strong that it can withstand a ship impact in the future.

That ship is bigger than an aircraft carrier with who knows the weight of the cargo. It was at 8 knots a Navy guy said it takes 5 miles to stop a carrier at the speed.

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#hairflip

Does there have to be a new bridge? How about going with a fun and retro ferry system?

https://i0.wp.com/www.revolutionaryw...93%2C601&ssl=1

The bridge won't be rebuilt for at least a year mark my words.

No it was George Soros

Damn I kinda thought they'd have this bitch knocked out by the weekend

the only DC related thing I will say "Biden says the US will fully pay for the reconstruction"

No shit sherlock.


Watching more video on the news. Incredible. This could have been so much worse.
But those poor road workers. Had no idea what was coming.

Yep, they said the biggest hurdle is just getting the floating cranes.

Eh, infrastructure projects are often paid for by a combination of state and federal spending, so his statement isn't a foregone conclusion. He can't technically even allocate funding for something like this - that's Congress's responsibility - so I take his statement to mean, "I'm going to push Congress to allocate 100% funding for this out of the federal budget rather than expecting Maryland to pay for some of it."

That bridge won't be rebuilt for at least a year and one week. Mark my words

Man, if there's anything positive to take from this, at least it didn't happen during rush hour, and at least they had enough time to stop traffic and prevent more loss of life.

Definitely lost power

There is no bridge in the world that can withstand a direct impact with a fully-loaded container ship.

It's that possible?

The amount of energy being delivered by that much tonnage is immense.