That was one of my favorite regular season wins of the Andy-Mahomes era. 90’s Arrowhead awoke that day and it was beautiful.

Except that was a 3rd and 9....completely different situations.

History repeats itself with this Chiefs team

Also a Matt Wright game

I don’t hate it if the goal is to ice the game. Don’t love the deep shot though. We were in a spot where we could ice the game on one play knowing that the 2 minute warning was a natural timeout. We weren’t running the ball well at all today so I get it. I don’t get doing that then punting on a makeable 4th.

That was the game where Chris Jones got called for a bullshit roughing the passer when Carr fumbled. Crowd booed the refs for the rest of the game, lol

Anyway, the final two drives featured very strange choices from both Vegas and Kansas City. Both teams needed short yardage and failed on the deep ball. Pretty stupid. At least KC was able to win both of these games, even with the mistakes.

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Difference being Mahomes isn't hitting these throws this season. The play was there to be made.

It’s truly the benefit of sharing the division with the Raiders. We’re guaranteed one of these baffling wins every couple of years.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Antonio Pierce says they were planning on throwing the ball out of bounds with that final play to kill 4 or 5 more seconds and give Daniel Carlson a 49-yard field goal.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> <a href="https://t.co/rPTSmpDaOd">pic.twitter.com/rPTSmpDaOd</a></p>&mdash; Logan Reever (@loganreever) <a href="https://twitter.com/loganreever/status/1862642600446239091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You should look up what "In a vacuum" means, and read the rest of my post again.

2nd down I like the call

3rd down and 2, not so much.

Play was there. Guy was wide open. That's the same play they called when they ****ed the bills. And I think he could have caught it based on the replay I saw (maybe I'm wrong only caught the one replay). Seems like there's been too many 1st - 4th round busts.Rice and Mcduffy are excellent but otherwise it's been a ****ing disaster. And the tackles are the worst tackles in the NFL and probably the CFL.

Choices of running it and probably be short and going for it on 4th, spreading it out and throw for it knowing we have protection issues or play action and take a shot. Play action not a bad choice.

The play call was not bad. We’ve been burned a few times on the same play in similar situations. The execution sucked!


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The play on it's own isnt bad...the play in that situation is criminally negligent.

If they were up 7 in the third quarter...but not when the game is two yards from being over.

The clock stopped at 2:03. If it was complete the clock stops at 2:00 with a 1st down game over. If they got stuffed on a run the clock stops with a while 3 seconds less than what it was.

So again, the clock is completely irrelevant to your argument against passing.

Minus a 34 yard run that wasn't an obvious run situation, the chiefs rbs had 13 carries for 25 yards. Which by my calculations is less than 2 yards per run. Factor in the obviousness of a run and I'm not convinced we get 2 yards on 3rd down. Maybe on 4th down, but again, we've seen the chiefs stuff obvious runs short of 1st fown.

With it being so close to the two minute warning, it was inconsequential that there was an incomplete pass there because the clock’s gonna stop after the punt anyhow regardless of the two minute warning and the punt would take at least two seconds now had there been another 15 seconds in front of the two minute warning upon the in completion that would’ve sucked so considering that they were so close to the two minute warning I don’t mind the call

Your eyes may be open, but they need glasses.

They absolutely should have run on 3rd down and gone for it on 4th

It is amazing how many ****ing geniuses we have here that know more about football than the #4 winningest coach in NFL history. You should all apply for jobs as OC.

QB getting hit all game bc OL can’t pass protect so you call a long developing play?

If that was a shorter route it would have been much better. Mahomes got hit on that play which affected the pass

I can think Andy Reid is the greatest coach of all time and yet think he had a clear brain fart when he wasted a timeout with our punt team on the field only to decide to punt it anyway.

Even another Top 5 Coach like Belichick can decide to have his 18-0 Patriots go for it on 4th and 13 rather than try a 48 yard field goal with Gostkowski in a Super Bowl upset he’d ultimately lose by 3 points. These brilliant, sleep deprived guys who live and breathe football are ultimately fallible in the heat of the moment.

Dude..that play call almost cost KC the game. The resulting drama that insued speaks for itself. I know Reid's credentials as a HC...it would be just as dumb if a HS coach called it.

No one is immune from criticism...especially when it's warranted.

Raiders make that kick and this thread has 10 times the responses.

It was open and a walk in TD...Mahomes is just off.

There was a bit of hubris in that unnecessary play call...and the arrogance almost bit them. Maybe they wanted to humiliate them for last year's Christmas game.

I just watched his presser, that wasn’t quite it. The playcall was the deep shot but he had the choice to check out of it, he opted to stick with the play when he saw how the Raiders were covering it.

There has been a ton of grumbling all around the internet about how Andy gets too conservative in 4th quarters and allows teams to come back. Needs to put the ball in Mahomes hands, etc etc. Today he went for the killshot, it was super aggressive and I was shocked by it, but you also can't have it both ways.

Run baby Run needs to be the theme with pass as the afterthought.

The exception is if it is going to Hopkins. He manages to come up with the ball unless he's getting mugged.

I'm on the opposite side. I've actually been really pleased the past few years with how we generally handle end-of-game, clock management, etc. It's been a stark contrast to what was a major weakness for Andy Reid during his otherwise amazing career. The fact they had mostly fixed that has been a huge difference maker. Today shook my confidence a little to see a late game decision that was cartoonishly awful.

I finally watched the highlights and saw that it was literally a one-man route. That is hilarious.

As max protect as you can get and Mahomes still got creamed. It was Kelce’s fault too; he missed a block.

I’m still not going to worry about it because we literally sent one guy on a route and he was comically open. Playcall worked as intended.

I think you are looking at this with the benefit of hindsight. We have had a ton of games where the offense just needed to kill the clock but we got overly conservative and the other team got the ball. It’s just that we haven’t lamented those because the defense has been so good.

I wonder if that’s why Kelce was so angry and skipped pleasantries walking off the field after the game. I’m not convinced Mahomes and Worthy connect on with good blocking, but Mahomes had to get that out way too quickly for having 9 people protecting him on the play.

Wow Kelce just totally whiffs on the block and Mahomes gets hit as he’s throwing the ball.

This play wasn’t on Worthy on Mahomes. 100% Kelce

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the 3rd and 2 deep throw where Patrick Mahomes got smoked trying to hit Xavier Worthy, just missed it up the field while Worthy was on a flatter angle and had to adjust. <a href="https://t.co/mkOAxcZQRn">pic.twitter.com/mkOAxcZQRn</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1862651186374942940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Anyone know why Andy was over by the bench having a discussion with Kelce at one point in the 4th quarter? It looked like Andy was getting on him...but I don't want to speculate...

Probably had to do with that drive where he dropped passes and looked like him and Mahomes were on 2 different pages. Kelce just looks done mentally. If we win the Superbowl I think he retires and goes to Hollywood.

When is the last time any of them played meaningful football on a Friday?

IDK; they just seemed like they didn’t really care if they won or lost. Playoffs were pretty much already going to be a thing, while now it is a thing. It’s a holiday, they all still had turkey in their guts, it’s not an important game to win. And they played like that.

The raiders too. Lots of mental errors and bad coaching. It’s like they didn’t really know how to win it either.

Weird game. Weird win. So what. Next up. Let’s go. Win is a win. Etc etc.

But still seeing the “refs helped the chiefs” is what’s really the craziest take from any casual fan to long time pundit. And they are still saying it.

Oh well, control what you can control. Be happy. Or be a miserable prick.

Thanks for posting the video. I knew Mahomes had to get rid of the ball early. Didn't realize it was Kelce who whiffed on the block.

That is just absolute dogshit by Kelce. There was no effort whatsoever. This entire game was a steaming pile of turds, as every game as been the past month. Hell, I’d argue we’re looking worse by the week, yet somehow pulling wins out of our asses.

That luck is going to run out, and someone is going to come out one of these weeks and just kick the living shit out of us like the Tampa Bay Super Bowl. Quite frankly, we need it. Someone needs to embarrass this team and make them play with a little pride again.

It was open….im not sure why worthy didn’t put his hands out was it that out of reach?

It looked like he could've caught it without even diving to me.
I dunno.

I don't agree. I think we would have said it was too risky but it worked out.

Remember that jet sweep play to Worthy where he easily scored that we ran against the Ravens where 9 Chiefs were all on the right blocking against 5-6 Ravens? That play easily could have gotten 2 yards.

We supposedly have the best interior line in the NFL. We have a fullback on the roster. We also have 2 power backs and another solid RB in Perine. What's the point in having all of that if you're not using them in must have short yardage situations?

It would have been a 48 yard field goal and the ball wasn't carrying at all where they were when that last play was snapped.

Damn. That’s about as close as you get.

Kelce missed the block by a mile.

I loved the play call. You have to at least put on tape that you are willing to do that type of thing. It can't always be run up the middle or eventually you are gonna get your face ****ed on a key down, probably in the playoffs.

I'd call that again if they did it over. So close to having a play that would propel that Mahomes-Worthy connection into another stratosphere.

have zero issue with the playcall. Pats and Brady/Belichek did it all the time to seal the deal.

Problem is:

1) Worthy didnt track the ball worth a crap (hence not putting his arms out or diving for it)

2) It didnt lead to a 'go for it' on 4th down play (as typically you dont call that play on third down if you don't intend to go for it on the next play.

I dont hate the play call...I hate when they used it. No reason to attempt it with 2 tries to get 2 yards and go home...on a short week.

I also would have liked watching KC bulldoze their way to a win...using Hunt.

Yup. And now that I've seen the replay, if Kelce hadn't pulled a perfect Wanya Morris impersonation, Worthy likely walks that TD in. Would also explain why Kelce was apparently in a mood after the game and went straight to the locker room without shaking hands? I dunno.

Mahomes not hitting Worthy on these deep shots has been concerning but give the guy some ****ing pass protection occasionally and let's see if those two can get on the same page.