Btw I don’t think Rex Ryan’s wrong. We can’t keep winning this way in the playoffs.

But we know the team will be very different by the time we get to the playoffs. That team is still the Super Bowl favorite.

Why?

They have literally been saying this for 2 years. And well we all know how right they were :)

He would know, wouldn't he? I mean first hand, he would know.

I called this Rex Ryan overreaction and bashing yesterday morning. I thought he would wait until Monday morning show.

He said the same shit last year. Go suck a fungus infected foot, coach.

They were a vulnerable team last year heading into the playoffs. They got embarrassed by the Raiders on Christmas Day. The eye test said they were one and done in the playoffs. How did that season turn out? I get it that you care only about what “experts” say, especially when they confirm your bias. The fans here have a reason for optimism based on past seasons.

It's amazing we were worse last year and folks still haven't learned.

Because I know Mahomes seemed annoyed by Burrow's ascension before Burrow ever entered the NFL.

It’s only a select few as usual. Barring a collapse KC will make the playoffs and they will be the most experienced team playing. As I said last year before the playoffs started, give me the most experienced team playing until they have been eliminated.

Stroupe has plenty of atheletes and he probably feeds plenty of them in the same way. Mahomes has been the successful poster child because 1/ he's better and 2/ the cards have fallen in his favor.

I would say - on a more minor level - from a motivational perspective it also might just be different when the people you're lining up against might be mocking you versus some old has-been coach is saying that you're not going to win a 3rd straight SB. One might just be a little bit more personal.

I’d like to know what team he saw that started 11-1 coming off back to back Super Bowl wins. For all the Chiefs current flaws, even if they were to somehow go one and done in the playoffs, it is damn near impossible to win this consistently for this long and it’s not like they’ve coasted on a soft schedule. The league basically admitted they tried to put as difficult a schedule as possible in front of the Chiefs.

Yeah, I would think so, too.

And 2022: They were 0-3 against the Bengals (or whatever it was), had just lost to them the year before.

2023: Kelce said that's the SB they wanted to get back to, for another shot at B2B, after losing to TB.

2024: The 3peat, of course.

Prior to Burrowhead I would have said all of that is enough to motivate the greats... nothing anyone says would transcend your own shortcomings on the field, especially when playing the same team the following season.

Given what happened that night and then Kelce immediately calling their mayor a jabroni, I've definitely wondered if matters more than we know. But yeah, in general, Rex saying stupid shit probably isn't the same as the Bengals' not ever being able to shut the **** up.

Lol. Bet you’re proud of yourself.

Here’s a few for you: #2 in success rate. #1 in rushing success rate. Top 10 in EPA/play, dropback success rate, dropback EPA, rushing EPA, and points per possession.

Of course, all this is moot because they aren’t explosive. Like the ‘22 and ‘23 Chiefs. LMAO

49'ers maybe? :shrug:
But all great points!

I haven’t tried to find it, but I’m certain Rex said the same thing last year. Lmao

I agree that we can run this back, but I do not think we should just assume that we have a 2nd gear year-after-year. If Rex is right it would not shock me given what I have seen to this point, but if they 3 peat I would not be shocked either given what they have done in the past. As with all things, time will tell.

He's also seen teams like the Chiefs win back to back Super Bowls. LMAO

Rex has had it out for us ever since Andy picked Spags over him. Honestly one of the biggest reasons we are where we are right now. Zero chance we have 3 rings with Rex Ryan running the defense.

I think the biggest question for me is...

Why would anyone possibly give even 1 **** as what Rex Ryan has to say about the Chiefs? Seriously, this dude's football takes are beyond awful. I take this as a good sign that the Chiefs are headed in the right direction :)

People can't wait to dance on the grave of this 3peat will only make victory all the sweeter

Exactly, plus it's hard to even look at the guy with his glow in the dark teeth.

The defense does look average a hell right now. Nothing wrong with that statement.

If we were to 3 peat, some people may commit Hari Kari or need to be institutionalized.

It would be glorious.

Rex who?

yes, right now...but this is a unit that has been outstanding most of the year. Personally, I think the D is worn out because the offense is not able to do its share. At the end of the day, this group has won back to back titles. Can't write them off as one and done in the playoffs. Conference championship? maybe. but not the divisional.

I mean so have I, Rex.

But I've also seen teams turn it on towards the end of the year and in the postseason.

All I can say is, despite all the weaknesses, the Chiefs will be in the playoffs, and no team wants anything to do with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs. Everyone will say "they're not scary this year", and then they play us and are fighting for this lives in a close playoff game, and its quite scary.

Good thing we wont be playing round 1.

Without looking it up I would guess the following:
1. Sacks allowed.
2. Pressures allowed.
3. OL penalties.
4. I would assume Mahomes has thrown more INT's than average.
5. Big offensive plays over 20 yards and certainly over 40.

Mahomes doesn’t need motivation this year. I imagine he is well aware that the offense is underperforming and he’s nowhere near the mvp conversation (deservedly). The body language indicates that the offense is not at all content with how they’re playing.

There weee times during the legion of zoom where we were maybe overconfident. If anything I think our offense needs that swagger and cockiness back.

It would be a truly historic collapse to un-clinch a playoff spot so my money is on the KC chiefs to hang on!!

The way the team was playing last year I didn't have much faith in them running the gauntlet, and then... ya.

I've seen teams like the Chiefs win the SB.

This team could lose the last 5 regular season games and still win the Super Bowl and I wouldn't be shocked.

This team could go 16-1 and lose in the first round of the playoffs and I wouldn't be shocked.

It feels like every possible outcome is on the table.

Mahomes/Hopkins/Hollywood/Kelce/Worthy/Pacheco/Hunt/Gray/JJSS + a big upgrade at LT and a pretty good defense.

We have no chance! None!! Get MVS on the phone stat!!

Well I'll be a flea on a hound dog, you are correct. For whatever reason I thought they had not yet clinched.

Elite offense and average defense = SB win
Elite defense and average at best offense = SB win

Mahomes is 15-3 in the playoffs in his career.

One loss was in OT when he never got to touch the ball and would have been a win had Ford lined up onsides.

Another loss was in a SB where his Oline was decimated.

His third loss was in OT after he inexplicably played his worst half of playoff football ever.

That's it. I no longer doubt this team when the playoffs start anymore as history has shown that regular season record/performance means nothing come the post season with this team.

Competent Left Tackle play fixes most everything. IF we get that, the rest is manageable.

It's incredible how people can watch sports year after year and then act like every season is their first one.

We had 40 years of "just get into the playoffs, anything can happen!" (narrator: it did not), and now it's basically the same narrative flipped on its head and we'll have to talk about it until Mahomes retires.

And I'm sure old Rex just wants to root for the team that can run the ball and stop the run, or the one with all the December momentums.... but we see those teams fail in the postseason almost every year, too.

Mahomes is top 5 in MVP odds right now. If KC ends up with the best record and he avoids turnovers the rest of the way, he'll be in the conversation. And deservedly so. 11-1 with the worst tackle in the league "protecting" your blindside? Injuries to the star WR, #2 WR, #1 RB, and mediocre play from the defense of late?

He definitely deserves to be in the conversation if he plays well the rest of the way.

I'veseen teams like the Lions get curb stomped in the playoffs too.

If the Chiefs can figure shit out at LT look out.

When you look around thr media today it's "The Eagles are the best team in football"..."The Bills are the best team in the AFC"..."Josh Allen is the best player in the league and the mvp"..."I see holes in the Chiefs" etc etc.

We've been here before but it's great to see the media give our guys that little bit of extra motivation going into the down stretch. And make no mistake, It will be us against the world once again come January

I hope it works. the boys need some waking up

Why is Randy Moss wearing sunglasses in that video clip?

1000% a good thing for us that the national media is overlooking the Chiefs again.

They want the Chiefs to fall short so bad that they don’t realize they are only fueling their fire even more.

Worst case would be if we were being crowned right now.

I read that he had a health issue that he was wanting to keep quiet. People noticed in a previous show that he had jaundiced eyes, so the theory is that he has a liver problem.

Too much bourbon and cocaine.

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And that is absolutely not the recipe to winning Super Bowls. That is a hard blueprint to replicate.

It's just we shouldn't be taking the Super Bowl for granted.

Its ****ing hard.

Nobody is taking it for granted. I like the Chiefs in an underdog role. Bring on the bulletin board material from the media & gambling companies, etc.

I don’t disagree at all. No one is taking it for granted as it’s hard to win one, much less trying to three-peat. But I do believe in this team come playoff time as they have proven themselves year after year.

You should be considering this isn't possible.

Rex Ryan is such a foot licking, toe sucking simp.

He said Allen can't be defended in the red zone. He said he's the best ever in the red zone. Allen has been bounced by us 3 straight years and has not been evern to the SB. What the hell is he talking about?

Josh Allen doesn't play or call the defense. The fact of the matter has been that Josh has played well enough to beat us twice in the playoffs, but his HC and his defense let him down. Maybe that's what he was talking about.

None of those really affect what he said though. The defense and coaching have nothing to do with people proclaiming that Allen is the best RZ QB EVER.

To be fair, Allen got away with back to back turnover worthy plays last year (fumble and a Pick 6 dropped by KC). Mecole Hardman fumbled on the goal line. It’s a blowout if those plays go the other direction.

Is that what he said? I didn't actually watch the segment. Whatever. He's entitled to his opinion. My post was in response to the bit about

Sure, fine. I mean, we can play "what if" with any/every game and project nearly any outcome we want to. For instance, "What if" McDermott didn't take over the defensive play-calling for the last two plays and shit his pants in the :13 second game?

In every game mistakes, bad plays, bad decisions happen, along with good ones (most of the time anyway). We've watched Pat make plenty of both over the years. Ditto every great team or player. It's just part of the game, right?

I think we'd be fools not to acknowledge that Josh has grown into an elite QB in his own right. He's not doing it the way Pat does it, maybe not how any QB has before, but he's become a real force, especially in the RZ. If he's playing just better than his average, he's a serious problem for 99% of defenses, regardless of where the ball is snapped.

But in the RZ, where he only has to run at most 20 yards, and his ability to just run over LBs/DBs at will, he's one of the best QBs in the league, that much seems certain.

You're not wrong but you're just not getting the hyperbole. He's a great QB. One of the greatest ever? Yeah, not yet.

Ah, now I get it. Well, I think it's a little early to crown him with that label. But I won't be surprised if we see him that way in a couple years. He's come a loooong way from his first couple seasons in the NFL. Who knows what he'll look like in a couple three years?

I want to see what happens when Dion Dawkins is gone. He has been there (literally) for 99% of Josh Allen’s games the last 6+ years. Mahomes has had a shit show at Left Tackle the last 3-4 years ever since Fisher got hurt. Somehow won 2 rings and might get another one this year.

Shannon Sharpe and Stephen A Smith would be "shocked" if the Chiefs make it back to the superbowl. "They can't rely on the defense anymore. The O-line is terrible and the offense is bad". Shannon has the Bills getting the one seed and Stephen A would be confident about the Bills winning in Arrowhead if they have to.

Colin Cowherd "the Chiefs are a flawed team. The Bills are the best team in the AFC and are a champion in waiting".

Keep em coming.

He's really going to have to change his game if he wants to have the longevity needed to be an all-time great. He takes WAY too many hard hits and it's a huge part of his game. He won't be able to play like that the older he gets. I mean, even if he manages to stay healthy despite the hits, running around like that is a young man's game. He's going to have to operate more from the pocket and the less he runs, the more defenses will key on it. Right now his biggest asset is that he's a dual threat. He won't always be that, healthy or not.

Ouch

That's all true, he will have to change his game as he ages. But he is. We're seeing it in real time. Just a couple seasons ago he had to have a top-10 WR like Stefon Diggs as a security blanket.

He's past that now, and distributing the ball to whoever's open, because he's able to go through his progressions and make his reads much better than he was earlier in his career.

He's running a lot now, because his weapons aren't that good or they're young/inexperienced, so he has to make up the difference by taking off. But if Kincaid grows into a top-tier guy or Coleman or whoever, he'll have to run less.

Not saying he'll become a great pocket passer, but he's learning to be a lot more comfortable in the pocket. And if he develops one or more of these young guys into top-notch receivers, he'll grow even more into a really good, if not great, pocket passer. Then we'll really be in trouble.

Lol. Do they have money on the Chiefs or what?

The best way to guarantee a KC threepeat is to make them a disrespected underdog.

Are we evaluating the chiefs as we stand? Or after we get our new lt and hollywood back and Andy let’s the playbook loose in playoffs?

One thing is certain, there are significant deficiencies on this team that do make us look like a one-and-done team much of the time. There's still time to fix the issues and get healthier though. Who knows what will transpire between now and the playoffs with other teams and their injuries too. We sure have had our fair share.

We were not favored in any SB and not favored last year at Buff nor Balt. You never know until you play. We have as of shot as anyone.

People have blathered about KC looking beatable late in the year basically every season. Never more so than last year.

The year before, KC lost to Cincinnati on Dec 4 and the defense was awful. Literally didn't get a stop other than when Bengals players dropped a ball. The next week they needed a late pick to eek out a win vs Brett Rypien and the Broncos. The following week they needed OT to beat a terrible Houston team. And in the last home game, they barely got by Denver again.

The roster they're going to have this postseason is going to be far better than either of those rosters.

I mean, I get what they're saying about the Chiefs. :shrug:
BUT, I would not bet against them.

Damnnn

Legendary thread

Trying to steer the general public off the Chiefs SB bet..."Put your money on Allen"

Part of this is also generating hype/hope...nobody wants to hear "11-1 Mahomes is getting a new LT/Hollywood Brown and will steamroll through the post season for a third straight time...you have no chance". The fans of all the other contenders want to hear how the Chiefs suck and this is their year.

Then when it comes to game-time and predicting the winner...they all pick KC. "How can I bet against Mahomes"

Everyone wants the champion to fall...these show's producers give them the angle to take.

Let's see who Sharpe picks in a few weeks...it's all about clicks.

Colin Cowherd also predicted the Wilson Broncos would win the AFC west...and were SB favorites. They finished 5-12.

Threepeating is almost impossible so if they keep predicting we won’t win the Super Bowl every eventually they will be wright and will definitely gloat and I think we embarrassed some of theses schmucks the last years they hope we lose but giving this team bulletin board material has proven to be counterproductive in that goal.

He seems nice!

Got people talking about it, so he did his job.

The oddity is that, statistically, the Chiefs are better this year than last year. The eyeball test tends to show some areas that are of major concern that they didn't have last season though, and those can be detrimental in the playoffs.

The LT situation is horrendous and with Taylor already being mediocre on the right side and Smith playing uncharacteristically bad, that shapes up as a recipe for disaster. We already saw how that can play out by looking back to the TB SB. Now, we all hope Humphries is the answer but I'm reserved because he's never been great and he's coming back from a major injury. You just hope he can give you that floor Easy6 was talking about yesterday.

The pass rush is anemic. I haven't seen a pass rush this bad from a Spags defense in a while. Not being able to get to the QB is going to be a problem, especially if it forces exotic blitzes all of the time just to generate something. The best QBs will be there in the playoffs and they tend to feast off of blitzing.

The defensive backfield is a hot mess and really exposed. I think some of it is pass rush and some of it is they are just playing like ass. We can't bank on Watson coming back for the playoffs. Williams is starting to play better but it still feels like this unit is walking a fine line.

Then we get to the elephant in the room and that's how poorly Patrick has played at times. He's not seeing the field like he has in the past and he's sure as hell not taking the shots like he used to. The real question is to what extent the lack of quality OT play has damaged his psyche.

What is the quote? ‘The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them.’ What in recent Chiefs history says that they’re NOT going to ramp it up in the playoffs and win the Super Bowl? We saw how this played out last year. We are having a better season, record wise, and people still want to act like we’re frauds. Sure, we may get bounced in the playoffs. But, at this point, why in the hell would anyone doubt us?

Heard this live and although I understand the sentiment, he sounded so salty.

Because many of the wins were due to the other teams pooping the bed