It’s more the coaching staff than Josh tbh. Idk how anyone didn’t know Spags wouldn’t blitz there.

Every money down Spags does it and his OL looked completely unprepared. They also drew up and long developing play. You just can’t do that on 4th and 5 in that situation.

Burrow has beaten Mahomes and Allen in the playoffs.
Mahomes has beaten Burrow and Allen in the playoffs.
Allen HAS NOT beaten EITHER Mahomes or Burrow in the playoffs.

GTFOH with this "Allen is the 2nd best QB in the NFL" bullshit.

i’d take ol lesbo joe over JAllen, don’t leap to conclusions from my (elite) shitpost

It wasn't aimed at you. It was a funny post. More to the overall BS about 'if we didn't have Mahomes, i'd take allen' bullshit. The **** you all would.

Allen's a beast and easy to root for. I legit feel bad for him.

Manning, Roethlisberger and Flacco all got around Brady

Who cares how it’s done? We actually stopped them on 4th down twice AND denied them a 2-point conversion.. they STILL put up 29 points on us.

It is impressive anyway you slice it.

And Mahomes never did.

What’s the point?

Funny that you mention that, by the way. A non exhaustive list of QBs who beat Brady in the playoffs:

Jake Plummer
Mark Sanchez
Nick Foles
Joe Flacco
Ryan Tannehill

Mahomes vs Brady? 0-2.

Sometimes football just doesn’t make sense and you can’t blame the QB for every failure.

I've got no hate for Josh Allen or their fans who were diehards even when they were terrible. I see a lot of the old version of chiefs fans in them. His obstacle continues to be that he just can't beat mahomes and the chiefs. Just like every team in the league, including the Bengals who managed to do it just once in the playoffs.

It wasn't a particularly good game for him this time. Terrific gameplan by spags and it doesn't help that Allen has pretty mediocre passing weapons to work with

Rex Ryan replacing McDermott may just be crazy enough to work

We just watched Allen have an MVP season with a bunch of scrub WR's...
We watched Mahomes win a SuperBowl with scrub WR's who led the league in dropped passes for turnovers.

Let's see what Burrow can do with nothing but scrub WR's.

Considering Allens body type/ability to run, and Burrows injury history I'd take Allen over Burrow any day.

Not me.

Rare bengals W

Congratulations Josh Allen!
 

Burrow got dragged through the playoffs kicking and screaming by his defense. He has made zero plays late in his playoff games.

Joe Burrow gets more credit for shit he did 4 years ago than any other player in the league.

Agreed.

I don't personally hate the guy or anything, but has any team or player ever got dick-ridden so much for one half of football from over 3 years ago?

Just crazy.

He beat Mahomes one time in an AFC champ game, in which....I'm not even sure Burrow played that well....then beat Allen in a divisional round.

Other than those 2 games......

Allen and Jackson have the same "dumb jock" gene, and it will prevent them from being champs.

Enjoy your MVPs, dipshits.

Yep, we’ve broken the league so thoroughly that the dude gets propped up for beating us one time by the skin of his teeth three calendar years ago lol

I 100% would. I might even consider Lamar over Burrow tbh.

You listed out every instance of Burrow failing to seal the deal this season with the ball in his hands late in the game. Even you can see he isn’t what he appears to be. That combined with the not-scoring-a-TD-in-the-4th-quarter-of-the-playoffs thing is too much for me to ignore.

I give it six weeks until social media is again flooded with: Josh Allen is better than Mahomes and it ain't even close

Burrow is the best quarterback in the NFL after Mahomes.

It’s still Allen. When you look at the different angles he found the open guy. Kincaid really let him down.

100% certain Kelce catches this ball.

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Only one QB never fails in crunch time. Well, never except for that one time.

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You can go on and on about no tds in the 4th, etc. Fact is he's 5-2 in the playoffs with wins against Mahomes and Allen on the road with shit lines and he's put up the numbers he has with shit lines and a shit defense, save '21 and '22 when he had a 'decent' D and played in the AFCCG twice and the SB once.

If he has a decent line and if he has a decent defense, he's in the mix, full stop. He came up short this year but i'm about as critical of a 'home team fan' as you'll get. In his defense, he got zero help from his team a lot of the time and was expected to win it multiple times in a single game more than once. If you think any QB can win 50% of his one score games with this Oline and D, you're kidding yourself.

Or you're trolling, which is fine.

Taking Allen or Jackson over Burrow...is not a smart thing to do.

Allen chucked up a prayer. It was pure luck than Kincaid had a chance at it.

What comes with that?

Because it's blatantly obvious the Ravens front office is going to keep way better players around Lamar than Burrow is gonna get from Cincy..shit even Buffalo's front office is better than Cincys.

Yeah. Welcome to my personal hell.

This is a great shot of Kincaid, having stopped on a dime while he's running to the sideline, having to turn back the other way and then dive for the wounded duck pass that drifts behind him.

No shade on Allen, he was about to get killed, but Kincaid is the reason it was close.

That ball was also coming in like a knuckleball punt, it wasn't a normal pass at all.

He was getting hit when he threw it. Also had Reid with his hands up in his face.

You have to make that catch. Look at what Worthy did for Mahomes earlier in the game? Bottom line nobody was around him and it hit both of his hands.

He has to catch that

It was a catchable ball but it wasn't a good pass. It was practically a hail Mary.

First thing’s first, that time you beat us was three years ago. We have literally won two straight Super Bowls and are about to play in the third since that day.

At this point you need to let it go, buddy. Y’all had your shot and Aaron Donald skull****ed your boy on the most crucial down of his career. I’m sorry but your window is basically closed. Face it, it’s Joever.

It’s been two years since the Bengals won their division or even made the pkayoffs. Burrow just had, statistically, the best season of his career and y’all went 9-8 or something lol

Allen and Lamar have their best years and they’re at least in the playoffs.

Joey B’s missed the playoffs more often than he’s made them. It’s kind of pathetic that you’re speaking about him as if he’s in rarefied air.

It’s Mahomes. Then there’s Allen and Lamar. Then there’s guys like Burrow, Goff and Baker.

Oh, i've been over it. I'm not the one that keeps bringing it up.

As far as window closed? Only if the Bengals FO continues to do stupid things. You guys buried Hurts and the Eagles but here they are back in the SB. The Bengals have to ability to do the same thing.

There's actually no such thing as "window closed". It's just, how does your FO operate to get you back there.

The amazing thing was all the Chiefs defenders around that hero ball didn't touch Kincaid. Those can draw int's or unnecessary roughness calls.

One thing I saw about Josh was that he didn't kick any defenders. Baby steps I guess.

“He needed every break imaginable to go his way, every officiating call to go his way, and a complete meltdown by our coaching staff to beat us by three - at home, no less.

There's a reason Allen the has better playoff head-to-head stats yet still loses over and over again to Mahomes, and it's not because he's getting outplayed.”

How’s your front office handling business lately?

Just getting all the missing coaches hired right now.

Too early to tell...

Historically, it's not unlike the Bills to lose 4 important games in a row.

in the hypothetical universe where Mahomes goes to the MLB and Burrow is IDK a male model or something, I'd take Allen

So you're a Mary Ann over Ginger kinda guy? I respect it.

EDIT: Sorry, i was on the phone while typing that. If you're saying Mahomes isn't around and Burrow isn't around, then you'd take Allen. Ok, i respect that too.

Do you trust them to make the right choices regarding Chase and Higgins?

The Eagles are back because they have an elite GM. Top 3 in the league and one of the better wheeler and dealers of all time.

We've discussed this...

Use that cap space to beef up the defense and oline. Burrow won't have 1's to throw to any more, but they should be better overall.

Exactly. If Burrow is in the same class as Allen and Mahomes, do what the Chiefs and Bills did. Get younger and cheaper at WR and focus on other parts of the team.

I actually like Josh Allen.

He's a competitor and the closest guy in the league to Pat.

I don't really want him to beat Pat to get there, but if there's a season where it doesn't work out for us for whatever reason and he has an avenue to get to the Super Bowl that doesn't involve taking us out, i'd probably root for him to get it done.

It won't be as flashy, but they will have the ability to win games in different ways like they did not very many years ago.

Mahomes was INSANE hot for a few years until Veach balanced the team out. The offense isn't as dynamic all the time but the team is incredibly consistent.

Not really. They should have traded Higgins before last season but Duke Tobin said he's "not in the business of making other teams better". They want to re-invent the wheel.

Basically, i'm living off of that never actually seen and elusive because it's not tangible thing called 'hope' they get it right.