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irafreak 03-16-2025 08:59 PM

Of course...None of you a -holes are real. Everyone expects the chargers forums to be all bots but I never would've imagined this place to be fake.

Gary Cooper 03-16-2025 09:24 PM

How does Pornhub never crash with like 4 billion daily users?

Frazod 03-16-2025 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18000837)
How does Pornhub never crash with like 4 billion daily users?

They're probably not using a platform that's 25 years old. :D

suzzer99 03-16-2025 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18000837)
How does Pornhub never crash with like 4 billion daily users?

https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comm...hub/?rdt=33967

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There are a few misconceptions in the answers, so I'll post my experience. I work for the most visited adult live streaming site (you can figure out which one from this) and we too serve static content (think Instagram stories) as well as regular video content on top of our actual live streaming experience.

For regular video content, we convert to a format that's accessible for most browsers and deliver it as a regular video. This feature is not too widely used and it isn't a requirement for these to start playing instantly so the key factor in delivering these very quickly to the browser is a very strong infrastructure for content delivery (in-house CDN) with edge node caching.

For expiring content (stories) we went this route originally too, however due to a limitation in video length some of our content creators started uploading videos split into shorter chunks. In the story player this caused a delay when starting a new chunk as you'd expect. This caused the videos uploaded in sequence to be unenjoyable. To solve this we came up with different solutions, the most interesting of which was to convert all types of stories into a single HLS source (images would be converted into chunks of 6 second videos for example). This improved continuous playing experience drastically, however starting from a non-zero index could cause more loading time than the original video sources. The current solution is to convert each video into HLS and pre-play the next video in line in order for it to start buffering enough for the transition between two stories to happen instantly. The reason for going with HLS had a lot to do with the developers' vast experience working with the format (due to background in live streaming) as well as an already existing infrastructure for converting all sorts of sources to HLS in an efficient way. We don't make much use of the variable bitrate that could be achieved when network conditions change (which can also be implemented with regular videos, but is massive pain as MP4 and other formats weren't intended to be used this way). The main advantage with this solution is that you can very easily control buffering and can preload chunks with ease as they are just regular TS files. As a side note: I saw people mentioning that you need a library to play HLS and this isn't true. Since the format was developed by Apple, it is natively supported by Apple devices. As a fallback solution for non-Apple devices you can use MediaSourceExtension API to implement HLS playback for video elements. There are libraries that do this, one example is HLS.js.

Finally, when it comes to live streaming we use a plethora of sources and fallback services to ensure that the streaming experience is uninterrupted regardless of network conditions, location and possible server outages, but this has little to do with your original question.

Now comes my opinion as to what you should do. I don't think it's reasonable to try to implement the setup we have. It took multiple teams of developers years of dedicated hard work to pull this off and it's an overkill for almost all use-cases. For most projects it's better to go with a cloud solution where you can "cross that bridge when you get there" when it comes to scaling. You should try to maintain as little as possible of your video storing / converting / caching / playback services as you can. Going with a cloud service also means that when advancements land in browsers, you'll be able to take advantage of them within days, rather than having to learn and implement the changes yourself, costing you hundreds of hours.

htismaqe 03-17-2025 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18000837)
How does Pornhub never crash with like 4 billion daily users?

I all but guarantee you they are running "in the cloud". They're distributed across hundreds of geographically dispersed virtual servers and adding more resources is available at the click of a button.

AFAIK, CP is still hosted on one physical server with finite resources. CP just can't scale to meet the demand.

And before you suggest it, cloud hosting CP would cost astronomically more per month than using one server. It's a non-starter without a real funding source.

DaFace 03-17-2025 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18000983)
I all but guarantee you they are running "in the cloud". They're distributed across hundreds of geographically dispersed virtual servers and adding more resources is available at the click of a button.

AFAIK, CP is still hosted on one physical server with finite resources. CP just can't scale to meet the demand.

And before you suggest it, cloud hosting CP would cost astronomically more per month than using one server. It's a non-starter without a real funding source.

Depends a bit on what you consider "cloud hosting" though. My personal take (that AC doesn't agree with) is that we should give up on self-hosting this thing and just go with "cloud" hosting with vBulletin in their shared infrastructure. We'd be on a box (or probably cluster of boxes) with other sites, but we could stop screwing around with this ancient software and let the pros keep it up and running.

But yeah, that's very different than self-hosting but figuring out our own network of CDNs to manage loads and such.

htismaqe 03-17-2025 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 18001017)
Depends a bit on what you consider "cloud hosting" though. My personal take (that AC doesn't agree with) is that we should give up on self-hosting this thing and just go with "cloud" hosting with vBulletin in their shared infrastructure. We'd be on a box (or probably cluster of boxes) with other sites, but we could stop screwing around with this ancient software and let the pros keep it up and running.

But yeah, that's very different than self-hosting but figuring out our own network of CDNs to manage loads and such.

The clear advantage of virtual hosting is that no one server or network connection has to take all of the load. It can be distributed across dozens or even thousands of virtual servers and if your hosting provider does CDN, it's even more robust.

It seems to me that hosting with vBulletin would provide many of those benefits while not being (probably) as expensive as a full blown cloud solution.

Womble 03-17-2025 11:07 AM

Would hosting on vBulletin effectively nuke the DC because no reputable hosting site would ever put up with the amount of shite there?

redfan 03-17-2025 11:09 AM

Feels like I've been mu'd, lol.

Rainbarrel 03-17-2025 11:14 AM

Pretty sure DC is a sort of trap to lure in the Death Angels from A Quiet Place

kccrow 03-17-2025 11:59 AM

Can you use the dedicated server for storage and the cloud solution for bandwidth?

I'm stepping way out of my realm of knowledge though so just thinking on some shit I "kind of" know.

BigRedChief 03-17-2025 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18001145)
Can you use the dedicated server for storage and the cloud solution for bandwidth?

I'm stepping way out of my realm of knowledge though so just thinking on some shit I "kind of" know.

I've converted very large org's(Bank of America, IBM, military) from old school wired servers. SAN etc. to cloud only forest's. Didnt work on any jobs the size of CP but the numbers have to be better than old school hosting.

I know every major Cloud company in America has the capability to host Vbulletin. I don't know shit about VBulletin or the cost to host Vbulletin. but I know cloud and would be happy to help out,

kccrow 03-17-2025 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18001170)
I've converted very large org's(Bank of America, IBM, military) from old school wired servers. SAN etc. to cloud only forest's. Didnt work on any jobs the size of CP but the numbers have to be better than old school hosting.

I know every major Cloud company in America has the capability to host Vbulletin. I don't know shit about VBulletin or the cost to host Vbulletin. but I know cloud and would be happy to help out,

Yeah, I kind of peeked at their plans and know nothing on CP but it looks like 200GB Bandwidth and 100GB storage for the highest tier before enterprise... Don't know what enterprise entails. Certainly, 100GB is not enough storage for this place. Hell, I don't know the bandwidth needs either. Came to mind that maybe using the storage component of the current server might help offset the costs. Who knows, just throwing it up in the air for the guys that know and maybe they could use your help.

Zap Rowsdower 03-17-2025 12:31 PM

Even the bots are Chiefs fans.

Bowser 03-17-2025 12:43 PM

Whatever AustinChief did, it's working right now. Shit's flying at the moment.


*edit - NO JINX

ptlyon 03-17-2025 01:02 PM

My dick got three inches bigger overnight as well. Bravo Kyle.

BigRedChief 03-17-2025 01:05 PM

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htismaqe 03-17-2025 01:08 PM

VBulletin Cloud seems price competitive, inexpensive even.

kcxiv 03-17-2025 01:36 PM

made me sign back in after a pretty long hiatus lol

George Liquor 03-17-2025 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 18001235)
My dick got three inches bigger overnight as well. Bravo Kyle.

Same with my goatee and receding hairline!


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