Adam,

Laker fans WANTED the Kings and I was pissed that we fell out of your bracket. You even mentioned that you would NOT want the Lakers in the Semi-Finals. Why is that?

Could it be that a Western Finals loss to the Lakers is more respectful in the eyes of the adoring public?

I did not mention your comment about us blowing out the T-Cubs but feel the need to offer a rebuttal.

Minnesota was 33-8 at home.

We beat them by 19 points.

They NEVER held the lead..... EVER!!!

The Lakers dropped 39 points in the 1st quarter. That was the MOST given up by the Wolves in a quarter.....EVER!!

The crowd got off its hands ONCE after introductions and it happened in the 3rd quarter when the lead got down to 4.

It wasn't the team that the Lakers beat but the performance. They slaughtered a #4 team with 51 wins in their own crib.

As for your Kings, it appears they have righted the ship and killed the Jazz tonight. My only fear is watching them sweep Utah as that MIGHT hasten the Mailman to sign up as a Laker in 2003-04.

That SI piece a few weeks back on Malone and Stockton gave me the shudders just THINKING that Karl would play for the minimum in Purple and Gold.:BS:

Problem is..... we need a legitimate power forward and Malone wants a ring.:eek:

Don't forget the 3 point shot left Horry's hand after the buzzer. Peja did not play due to an ankle injury and Weber was having trouble with a lingering ankle injury.

Can the Pond Scum get so lucky again? Not likely. This year the Kings are healthy, Christie is in Fox's head and the Pond Scum is scared. The Pond Scum had better hope for more hometown referreeing and a Kings choke again this year.

Yet, all this discussion is wasted if the Pond Scum cannot get past the T-Wolves.

Of course they want the Kings. The fans know the Kings where the better team last year and they want the opportunity to see their team redeem themselves.

Why did you take my points on Shaq's lack of skill as a defense of the Kings? It was meant as an inditement on the league and its desire to promote hacks like Shaq. My point is Shaq can only make it in the NBA. He left college early because he couldn't handle the rules. If he played in Europe he would foul out every game. There is no other player in the history of the NBA that has achieved such wealth and fame on so little skill.

The Kings don't need my defense. They have already proved themselves the better team on the court. And they did it while their best to players where injured. This year the team is healthy and deeper. Too bad for the Pond Scum.

No. Why go through both the Lakers and Spurs when you don't need to?

More importantly, Kings have not been together as a unit for much of the season. I'd like them to get acclimated with each other a bit more and two playoff rounds against two styles of teams is preparation enough to have them ready for LA.

The "adoring public" believes the Lakers were fortunate, not lucky, to beat the KIngs last year.

As for the win vs the T'Wolves, whatever. The regular season means jack, as you and the Lakers fans have said over and over and over again. The T'Wolves could've been 41-0 at home and I'd still think the Lakers would sweep them. Please don't run that "look how impressive we were" BS... it's the T'Wolves you're beating and it's the 1st round.

Laker-haters, please stay away from this thread later tonight, for no one wanted to be caught with the spray spurting out of the strokefest of beating the "tough" Wolves again....

Gotta love it. BD starting the day off right.

Sorry guys but as long as Vladeflop is on the Queens flopping all over the place they do not deserve a Championship. That's beeotchball not basketball. That is the reason he was kicked off the Lakers squad in the first place. That and the fact that he was trying to give hummers to everyone in the locker room.

Main man Mark. Mark Eaton got a good laugh out of the Rise Guys on Sports 1140 KHTK when the trio suggested he'd be a sure Hall of Famer if he got Shaq-like calls during his Utah career as a 7-foot-5 block of wide torso and long arms. "Absolutely," Eaton said with a laugh. "My shoes are in the Hall of Fame, though, but that's about all you'll see."

CF wrote:Who is that?

The Lakers have been doing it for a long time CF. They are the greatest team in NBA history. You can cry all you want about officiating and ludicrous comments about Mark Eaton being as good as Shaq but it only shows your lack of objectivity.





ALL-TIME OVERALL RECORDS Team W L
Los Angeles Lakers 360 235 .605
Boston Celtics 281 196 .589
Chicago Bulls 147 106 .581
Baltimore Bullets* 10 7 .588
Philadelphia 76ers 197 177 .527
New York Knickerbockers 179 171 .511
Indiana Pacers 61 59 .508
Houston Rockets 100 99 .503
Anderson Packers* 4 4 .500
Milwaukee Bucks 97 98 .497
Utah Jazz 93 95 .495
Detroit Pistons 119 123 .492
Seattle SuperSonics 101 105 .490
San Antonio Spurs 83 89 .483
Phoenix Suns 95 106 .473
Portland Trail Blazers 88 99 .471
Golden State Warriors 99 115 .463
Dallas Mavericks 29 37 .439
Atlanta Hawks 117 152 .435

PLAYOFF SERIES RECORDS Team W L
Boston Celtics 65 26 .714
Los Angeles Lakers 89 36 .712
Anderson Packers* 2 1 .667
Chicago Bulls 34 18 .654
Baltimore Bullets* 3 2 .600
New York Knickerbockers 40 34 .541
Houston Rockets 22 19 .537
Philadelphia 76ers 41 38 .519
Seattle SuperSonics 21 20 .512
Utah Jazz 18 19 .486
Golden State Warriors 22 24 .478
Milwaukee Bucks 18 21 .462
Phoenix Suns 19 23 .452
Detroit Pistons 24 30 .444
Indiana Pacers 11 14 .440
San Antonio Spurs 16 21 .432
Dallas Mavericks 6 8 .429
Portland Trail Blazers 18 24 .429
Orlando Magic 5 7 .417
Washington Capitols* 2 3 .400
Washington Wizards 13 20 .394
Atlanta Hawks 20 35 .364
Charlotte Hornets 4 7 .364
Chicago Stags* 2 4 .333
Denver Nuggets 7 14 .333
Sacramento Kings 12 24 .333
Miami Heat 3 8 .273
New Jersey Nets 4 11 .267
Toronto Raptors 1 3 .250
Cleveland Cavaliers 4 13 .235
Indianapolis Olympians* 1 4 .200
Los Angeles Clippers 1 6 .143
Cleveland Rebels* 0 1 .000
Sheboygan Redskins* 0 1 .000
St. Louis Bombers* 0 3 .000
Minnesota Timberwolves 0 6 .000
Totals 548 548 .500


Orlando Magic 23 30 .434
Washington Capitols* 8 11 .421
New Orleans Hornets 20 28 .417
Washington Wizards 69 97 .416
Sacramento Kings 63 89 .414
Toronto Raptors 8 12 .400
Denver Nuggets 39 59 .398
Miami Heat 20 31 .392
Los Angeles Clippers 13 22 .371
Cleveland Cavaliers 28 49 .364
Chicago Stags* 7 13 .350
New Jersey Nets 20 39 .339
Cleveland Rebels* 1 2 .333
Sheboygan Redskins* 1 2 .333
St. Louis Bombers* 4 8 .333
Indianapolis Olympians* 4 9 .308
Minnesota Timberwolves 5 18 .217
2592 2592 .500
:deevee:

That's because the LA Lakers are also one of the older teams in the league. And may I note that your win-loss record probably dates back to the time they were in Minnesota.

On another quick note:

The Kings are 2 - 0.
Stomping on the Jazz with the bench. Stoyo was on FIRE.
The Kings bench alone would take LA to a seven game series this year. Feeling sorry for ya, yep, feeling sorry for ya.

One other thing, have ya noticed how the media and the Lakers are really pushing "The absence of Shaq" story. Almost to the point to where they make that a premature reason for their possible decline through this playoffs. Bobby Jacksons Mother died during the second half of the season and nobody asked him if he was ready to play or if he could.

Excuses

Who is crying? I'm just saying Shaq has size but no skill. He is worthless when more than 5 feet from the basket. His game is totally dependent on the officiating.

As for the Kings my point is simple, they are a better team and they proved it last year and will again this year.

CF,

Well I guess we will just have to bet the series when it gets here then. Your Queens looked awesome last night. I really like Stoyo and Bibby. Spurs looked very good as well playing without the Admiral. I really like David Robinson, the guy is a class act. This is exactly the way I want it. If the Lakers win again this year it will be the second greatest run in NBA history. If the Queens shoot the lights out for 4-7 games they can win but that is what they will have to do. They will also have to quit all the crying and blaming refs for their own failures. That will be hard to do considering you have the biggest beeotch center in the league leading the way. I think Phil put it best when he said he has absolutely no fear of this team. (Queens) The series should be a great one though, looking forward to it.

BIG DADDY

Patiently waiting for that 15th title.

Funny how King's fans never bring up the fact that their team, flat out, choked away the series last year at the free throw line.

Or does fall under the "the ref's screwed us" umbrella?

Saying Shaq has "no skill" is ridiculous.

I strongly agree with you. You can't play basketball when your focus is on the refs.

Its not ridiculous. I remember watching him at LSU and recount his extreme frustration. His game has not changed. His game is size not skill. In college that did not work.

I credit Phil Jackson with knowing how to take advantage of Shaq's size in a team concept.

Garnett, Kobe and Duncan are skilled. Shaq is big. He is fortunate to be playing for Jackson in LA.

CF,

So you up to betting the series when it happens? You guys should be in great shape after beating up the grey beards.

Look Big Daddy understand this much.
The officiating in the western finals was flawed last year and even the league recognized it. That is why they introduced having a review of buzzer beaters this year. To keep shots like the 3 pointer that Samaki made after time expired to win one of the games against the Kings last year. It's why they changed the defensive rule for the defenses to be able to bring down a player to double team the center so that Shaq couldn't stand on an island and elbow his way to the hoop. And also to benefit the perimeter shooters and open lanes by setting a screen inside for more excitement than a 330 pounder setting under the basket and slamming it in. Personally I enjoy Kobe immensely. And that rule accomidates him and gives him more opportunity off the triangle.
As far as Vlade, he is the only center in the league that can beotch slap Shaq inside (Since Rodman retired) and expose him to the dirty play he has always relied upon. It seems he only flops against Shaq and why wouldn't he. The man is the largest player in the league. Shaq even said in the off season about Ming and I quote "Ming is going to find out what its like when he gets an elbow in the face." That is Shaq's play. You can't deny that.
And to talk about floppers look at pretty boy Fox. He flops just as much if not more than Divac. Especially when he gets beotch slapped by King Christie in the jaw. Didn't he instigate and get his arse beat twice that day?
I can't wait either. It's gonna be fun.
:D

Shaq left LSU because he couldn't play by the rules, huh.
I'm guessing it may have had something to do with huge piles of cash.

So because he doesn't shoot from outside 5 feet, he has no skill?
With that logic, Chamberlain, Russell, Jabbar, Olajawan, Reed, and damn near every other center who ever played, lacked skill as well.

Just another tidbit of info:

When the Lakers had their arse handed to them from the Seattle Sonics in their last meeting this year I was there for the game. Decked out in full Kings gear (My wife of course in all Laker gear)at the end of the game I ran down to the tunnel of the Lakers and was giving the defeated Lakers a piece of my mind. Saying the Kings are comin for ya, the Kings are comin for ya Phil and you wanna know what he said to me?

F--- OFF!!! In that low mono toned voice.

That cracks me up.

The Zenmaster telling me to F--- OFF.
Wish I would have had a cow bell.

Just thought that I would share that.

"Hack a Shaq" didn't start in the NBA. I remember his whining about how other teams just foul him and he didn't like college ball. His father was very upset at his decision.

If he do anything other than one step and dunk you might be able to convince me he has skill.

He is poor at passing, dribbling and shooting. His foot movement is so slow he has to rely on the shove and club.

Now it is your turn to be ridiculous. Shaq has NO game beyond 5 feet and never has even in college. Each of those players you list had a very good game beyond the dunk and club. In fact, Chamberlain, Jabbar and Olajawan where finesse players with great quickness. They didn't need to shove and club.

picasso wrote:You have been blessed my son. :D


For all the Queen smack talkers on here I noticed none of you want bet anything on it. BTW, Shaq has developed that hook shot he has been using this year and those shots on the baseline are well over 5 feet, try like 10. Free throws are much better this year as well.

I have to admit, his game has come a long way. That 10 foot shot has really added a whole new dimension to his game. And hasn't his free throw shooting reached 60%?

Maybe someday he will not need to shove and club.

CF,

Free throw percentage this year was like 63%. He went 10-13 in the first playoff game. Here are some other intersting Shaq stats for the year. Pretty good considering how much of the season he was out.

TEAM G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
LAL 67 66 37.8 695-1,211 .574 0-0 .000 451-725 .622 3.90 7.20 11.10 3.1 .57 2.37 2.93 3.40 27.5





Ranks #4 in the NBA in Points Per Game(27.5) Ranks #2 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.574)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(2.37) Ranks #6 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(695.0)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Free Throws(451.0) Ranks #4 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(725.0)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds(259.0) Ranks #3 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game(3.9)
Ranks #13 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds(483.0) Ranks #9 in the NBA in Total Rebounds(742.0)
Ranks #8 in the NBA in Blocks(159.0) Ranks #9 in the NBA in Points(1841.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Double-doubles(46.0) Ranks #2 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(13.16)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(22.93) Ranks #3 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(8.54)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(13.73) Ranks #11 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(4.9)
Ranks #16 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(9.1) Ranks #13 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(14.0)
Ranks #13 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes(3.01) Ranks #2 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(34.9)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(2000.0) Ranks #3 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking(29.85)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes(37.87)

It is very telling that Shaq is #1 in free throw attempts considering he is the one doing the shoving and clubing.

Does he receive special treatment from the refs in response to "Hack a Shaq"?

It is no wonder he does well at rebounding. He lumbers down court and sets roots in the low post. With his big body he should be #1 in all rebounding catagories.

It's funny, last year I read all this whining and crying about how Shaq gets beat up and the refs dont call it because of his size, poor thing.

#1 in FTA's, eh? what a rough life he has.

CF wrote:I am sure he would be if he had played all season.


Titus,

All you ever do is b!tch about the Lakers. Hell, I am not even sure who you do like.

BIG DADDY

A lot of smack but no betters. Queens are even favored to win it all. Weak.

bitch? To the contrary...as for who I 'like', actually nobody. I could really care less about the NBA, but find the whole 'shaq' arguments fun. He's a punk and ya'll know it, but you have to defend ol' mumblewhisper.

shaq sucks and the lakers will not be champ this year so let hear it for the celtics this year nba champs

The only place the Celtics are going is home. Their Championship hopes Flew south when Bird left long ago.

BD:

Thanks for the sorta compliment. And in addition to Stoyo and Bibby, a true basketball fan has to love what Bobby Jackson brings to the floor, game in, game out. A legit warrior, who rarely plays bad and always gives the Kings a spark.

Lakers fans, Vlade flops against Shaq, I can admit that. He doesn'
t do it vs Utah. In fact, his offensive rebounding in this series has made a big difference. Plus, he has Mavs centers for lunch. Plus, he now has extra help with an athletic Keon Clark, a rested Pollard, and even Webber helping to defend Shaq (Webber may play Shaq the toughest of all incredibly).

Besides, you got Kobe for Vlade. That alone should make Lakers fans cheer every time Vlade steps onto Staples.

BIG DADDY & Lakers Circle Jerkers:

I'll bet y'all. Cal Injun knows I take care of business (we bet last year's series for 37 Forever).

As a matter of fact, why not do this again, but with all of you.

The bet for a potential Lakers-Kings Western Conference Finals Rematch

If the Lakers win, I will donate.....

One Hundred Dollars ($100.00) :Pinky:

Cash "gift" to 37 Forever.

If the Kings win, each Lakers fan in the bet must make a $100 "gift" to 37 Forever.

Any Laker-haters who want to jump in on my side, also must make a $100 "gift" to 37 Forever if the Lakers beat the Kings.

It's a lot of hatred going into a good cause.



Cal Injun, you may want to get the Delaney jerseys involved in this bet... I'll let you figure out a good plan in between Wolves timeouts tonight.

Now who has the "SAC" to take me on?

picasso
 

I like you dude! :thumb:

Good to know there'll be more than just one diehard Kings fan here when the Lakers get 4 Losses out of 7 vs the Kings instead of 4 Titles.

AJKCFAN,

Jackson definately brings something to the team. He is the only one besides Bibby that has the huevos to penetrate and take it or dish out. Queens have it all, no question. I could even like the team if Vladeflop wasn't on it. They have the deepest bench in the game, great shooting, good transition game and a solid D. That being said they will still need to shoot the lights out to beat the Lake show.
A few things I have noticed from the playoffs so far.

1. Queens and Spurs are crying way more than any other team in the West. I expected that from Sac but not from the Spurs. Vlade may not be flopping against the Grey beards but he still needs a case of cheese to go with that wine.

2. Nobody in the East really seems to be stepping up meaning the championship will probably be a blowout.

3. San Antonio really seems to be the wildcard as the difference in their play between the first and second game was like day and night.

AJKCFAN,

We will work something out. The way you got it set right now your $100 would buy about a grand. Your not trying to be smooth are you? Not like a cow bell wearing queens fan to be smooth.

San Antonio is in trouble, but will outlast the Suns, probably in 7.

Their performance in the first 2 games certainly seems familiar, and I'm not talking 1999. Looks like the Lakers will beat them in 6, as expected.

In the East, since the teams really suck, it appears that a kick-ass player can carry a team to the Finals. So take your pick among Kidd, Jermaine O'Neal, Iverson, Pierce, or McGrady and you can see one of them lead their team to the Finals.

That leaves Detroit, New Orleans, and Milwaukee as odd teams out.

Detroit is the worst 1 seed since Atlanta in 1994.

New Orleans better get to the Finals this year or next because once they move out West, it's all over for them...

I will not bet $100 against each Lakers fan. That's unfair. If the Lakers knock the Kings out again, exactly $100 comes out of my pocket.

If the Kings win, it would be unfair for $100 to be split up by the Laker crew here... that would be like 10 bucks apiece.

Laker haters can be on my side and be on the hook themselves for $100, but I'll be on the hook for $100 and only $100.

In other words, every person in this bet has to put $100 on the line, with 37 Forever taking the pot.

Not smoothtalking.... just know that there are many Lakers fans who are game.

We'll work it out, as the teams will work it out to reach the bet.

37 Forever is the winner regardless, getting extra coin for the Red Cross swim program this summer.

A Kings series win brings more hay than a Lakers series win, so be it.

Cal Injun might be the personal winner in this... if we can get his sweet investment involved, right mccan?

AJKCFAN,

We will work it out. BTW, Congratulations on being the only queens fan with any huevos. :toast:

Big Daddy:

I always have the huevos. Last year, as bitter as it was, it easily was among the greatest playoff series of all time.

Even in defeat, I tip my hat off to the Lakers for a great series and a great dynasty, but I do know the Kings left knowing that they can beat them and have been waiting for this next go-around.

I've been down this road before... the dynasty roadblock. I was a kid when the Royals had to do it vs the Yankees but eventually they did. There is no more deserving team out there to end the Lakers 4-peat than the Kings and even the biggest Kings bashers know that.

Since you love pictures, here's something for the closet Kings fan in you, BD :)

Well whattaya know....
 

The Lakers lay an egg and this thread drops 4 pages....ROFL

AJKCFAN,

That's cool, best of luck to you.
:toast:


munkey,

We discussed it earlier in picasso's thread. I'm not going anywhere.

Since Big Daddy and AJ have worked one out.

I will be happy to take on some other Kings fan should the two teams meet up in the Conference finals for $100 for 37 Forever foundation.

Any other takers out there who want to get involved to increase the stakes and 37 Forever foundation benefit?

Good luck Jim. I think AJKCFAN is the only Queens fans with any nads though. Actually, I am surprised he is not a Lakers fan. Think he is in the closet? :eek:

C'Mon, Circle Jerkers, Be More Supportive Than This
 

Oh, the blasphemy of a Kings fan to dredge up this "4-peat" thread from Page 7 on Game Night of Lakers-T'Wolves.

Just 4, count 'em 4 posts, since the Lakers blitzed through the playoff series winless Wolves in Game 1.

Where's the machismo? Did that loss really flatten the wheels to the 4-peat bandwagon?

Where's the "so we'll beat them in five and not four" smack?

C'mon starting five of the Circle Jerkers (Cal Injun, BD, Logical, Cody, Titus) and 6th Man shakesthecat, it's the playoffs. So your team lost Game 2. BFD. Get on here and talk some smack, win or lose. The dates of Games 4 and 7 (Sunday May 26 - Horry and Sunday June 2, Game 7 collapse), I am certain I came on here and took it like a man. Have the huevos to do the same, k? ;)

Well, far be it from me to let this thread die... I hope it is used win or lose by the Circle Jerkers tonight.

And I'm still waiting on more hats to be thrown into the Lakers-Kings 37 Forever style wager. Big Daddy and I are on. Logical's looking for someone to mix it up with.

Between the Circle Jerkers and Laker Haters, it should be great fun for a great cause.

Got to say I was not very proud of my Lakers tonight, WTF was with them, I mean they played fair defense but I just found something lacking.:grr:

They need to pull their head out. Notice that I have been on after both bad games, I ain't running or hiding.

The T-Wolves have just been FUKED over the whole last 2 minutes.

That flop 3 PTer by Kobe, the foul on the PG (can't remember his name right now) trying to inbound the ball next, and the push on Walley on the following play

Now in OT.

That foul called on Walley Z. (SP?) on LA's break away layup is simply the worse call I've ever seen in my life.

If you stayed up late enough to see this, you'd know what I mean.

I hate it when refs call what they think, not what they see.

suds,

The old axiom is the challenger better win outright, they never should rely on a decision applies in this instance. That is especially true in NFL, NHL and NBA where the home field/court/ice advantage in key games usually extends slightly to any home team in a critical game. In the Pros everyone knows this and to pretend it is unique to the Lakers and the NBA is absurd.

I have a question. Why haven't the Lakers brought in better role players? They get rattled under pressure way too easy. Shaq and Kobe are the only players that can overcome adversity.

after "THE WORST OFFICIATED GAME OF ALLTIME" Justice has been served baby. The lakorz couldn't beat 5 roleplayers in OT even when handed the game. in the words of bill walton that was "HOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIBBBBBLLLLEEE!!"

Congrats to the T-Wolves. They wanted it more. This was also one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen, on both sides. Regardless of who wins this series, it's obvious that the league wants it to go as far as it can go. Anyone would be stupid to think that the NBA doesn't want this series (and all the series) to be long. That's why the officiating is always so inconsistent.

Worst officiated is an understatement. That was atrocious...

Go Wolves
 

David Stern is pissed. He paid the officials to make the Timberwolves lose, and my dogs still pulled it out!!!

Wolves in 6!!! (Still my original prediction)

They didn't look like defending champions. As MJ said it best, "One thing that can drag a team down fast is overconfidence...don't ever be overconfident." And I believe the Lakers thought all they had to do was step on the floor and the Wolves would surrender. The series is not over yet, but they're in trouble. When you can't beat a team with 5 role players, you have big things to worry about and to fix.

Gee whiz the officiating in that game tonight was awful, absolutely awful. If I didn't know any better, I'd said they were blantantly in favor of the Lakers the last 3 minutes of the 4th quarter then most of OT, then all of a sudden in the last 20 seconds they were suddenly pro-Wolves. The fouls Kobe Bryant gets are ridiculous. It's not the fact that he gets the fouls, it's the fact that there is 10 times more bumping going the other way that isn't called, at least Danny Ainge has the balls to call it out. I don't have a clue what game John Thompson was watching. I actually thought the strangest thing was the fact that they DIDN'T call a couple fouls in favor of the Lakers at the end of OT. I thought the shot Bryant put up should have been called a legitimate foul, and they didn't call it. Horrible, horrible officiating...really turns me off to even watching to watch this disaster...

I never thought I'd have a flash back of when I was in 1st grade, but I did tonight watching this game...it reminded me of the WWF. So many bogus calls, inconsistent calling, etc, etc. It made me puke. Let them win or lose it on their own.

Horry just supplanted Divac as the flop king. Horry flopped on Garnett without even being touched 25 feet from the basket. The league should be outraged that an all-star of Garnett's calibar was sent to the bench with the game on the line in OT on a flop.

What is it about games in LA, the refs seem to go stupid and blind.

It's like I have said all along.............

NO 4 PEAT THIS YEAR !

:toast: ROFL :LOL: :toast:

How in the world can a big man play 46 minutes a power game and only get 1 foul...

Amazing job by the T'Wolves to win despite being RAPED by the officials.

After further review, I can honestly say that was the worse officiated basketball game I've ever seen.


And I think I've seen enough. K.G. is the MVP mark it down. His game is just so good. Basically he has all the moves Kobe & McGrady have but he's 6'11! He can hit that turn-around fade away jumper, he can post up, he can put the ball on the floor, he can hit that outside shot (just inside the 3 usually) just as good as the other guys and he rebounds. Given his talent & heigth, I just dont' see how you can pass him up.

Yep. The SAME thing happened to the Kings last year. GO WOLVES! GO ANYBODY EXCEPT THE LAKERS! :toast:

Chief Faithful wrote:

One flop and he passes Vladeflop? You are about as objective as Remount and Talibanme. As a Laker fan I was totally embarassed and he better not do it again.

Names too long wrote: Do the crying queen fans ever quit?


Congratulations to the TDogs who certainly deserved that game.

And the year before that you said no Three Peat.

What do you want a medal for hopping on the Laker-hating bandwagon?

There is a big difference, Divac waits for contact to flop, Horry doesn't need the contact he just flops. And, don't play naive, Horry flops are as common as Divac's.

Don't forget Kobe, he is a flopper on the three point line. Put a hand in his face and he will flop. Many shooters will flop to try and get to the line.

I guess the difference between the Lakers and the Kings is the Kings wait for the contact to flop. The only reason Divac has a reputation is Shaq crys to the media and refs because everytime he lowers a shoulder Divac will go down on contact. But, at least there is contact.

I hope you are preparing yourself for a Kings vs T-Wolves / Spurs finals.

Speaking of flopping...
 

I hate it when all the star players do this... (and Kobe is guilty)

But you see a star guard go up, get stuffed or stripped CLEAN and they'll throw up their arms like real quick, flop their legs around, yell "ahhh!!" and then look at the ref. Be a man and just admit the other guy made a good play. They look like a fish out of water they're floppin so bad. Just because you might be the best player in the world, doesn't mean another professional can't make a good play against you.

Normal people are guilty of this to.

Have you ever seen someone walk down a sidewalk, stumble over a crack and turn to look at the sidewalk afterwards like there's something wrong with the ground? Same thing. Be a man and just admit that for that moment you were simply a clumsy b!tch who looked silly.

Chief Faithful wrote:If that finals scenario happens so be it. In all fairness I shouldn't have compared you to Talibanme and Recount as that would be an insult to them based upon your last analysis. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are much more intelligent than that and are just trying to flame the Lakers fans out there. If you really feel that anyone in the NBA flops anywhere near as much as the Vladeflop does when he plays the Lakers your are seriously dillusional. To say the Lakers cry more than the Queerbait Queens is simply the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen posted on the Planet, I'll leave it at that.

This is the biggest pile of shit I have ever read on the Planet.

Flopping is acting. Survey NBA fans and ask them who is the king of flopping. Divac would win in a landslide.

Keep saying your prayers that the TWolves could do something that your beloved Kings never had the ability to do: Beat LA in a 7 game series.

Flops
 

Its sad when people have to argue over who flops the most in a professional sport. I am not blaming the players, I am blaming the league. Can you think if DT in football stop trying to get to the QB and trying to act like their being held. They don't because the NFL has good fair refs. I know sometimes they suck, but Paul T. isn't in their back pocket. anyways..

I can't let Hoory and Vlade be the only ones getting credit, Karl Malone is also a master at getting fouled.

Last rant...

I was pissed when one of the announcers last night said.

"What a good job of Hoory to flop and get the foul called. That just shows his experience."

grrrr....

The officiating was decidedly in favor of the Lakers.

Props to KC's Anthony Peeler. Defending Kobe Bryant as well as anyone ever has. It was funny how he overplayed Kobe's right hand in game two, and made Kobe drive to his left, which he was unable to do.

Last night, he did great denying him the ball and did not even have to make Kobe drive left to pretty much shut him down.

It was terrible to see a series of awful calls that would have decided the game except for the fact that the Wolves showed much more heart.

Peeler was a warrior in the OT, as were the other so-called role players. The T'wolves that finished the game are good basketball players, period.

NBA playoffs is about adjustments. It will be interesting to see how the Lakers adjust to the full court defense. I think the deciding factor for the series will be whether the T'Wolves can continue to shoot a high percentage.

I hope they win, but it sure has been a lot of fun seeing a Kansas City and Mizzou guy play such a big role in an exciting series. Combined with the Royals winning ways, if the Chiefs can pick up some promising players in the draft, being a sports fan is fun right now.

steve wrote:I blame the players and I HATE it when anyone on the Lakers does it. I think that is one thing that is consistent with all Laker fans and Queerbait Queens fans. Lakers fans hate it and ridicule their players for flopping or crying. Queerbait Queens fans consistently defend their teams flopping and crying. I guess when your the best at something you might as well defend it.

LA shouldn't have won it last year ! A LUCKY 3 PEAT IT WAS !:D

ROY wrote:Yea they sure are a lucky team going for their 15th title.

Sorry ....... (Truth ) .... Yes LA has many titles, So what........ LA has had some very good teams .


Last year being lucky ? ( Truth ) Without a doubt !

I can handle the truth !

Can you ?

Told you it would happen!!

Personally I don't see what the big discussion is about flopping. Everyone in the NBA flops. That's part of the game. In the last game between the Twolves and Lakers even Shaq flopped from a run in by Troy Hudson (Like that would ever happen).
Horry did the right thing. It was planned. It was what the zenmaster calls the schemata. Everyone knew that Garnett was going out in the first minute of overtime. I sure did.

The thing that pissed me off about the game was the officiating to the point that it brought back memories of last season against the Kings. I am not whining about it just stating the facts that those calls last night were very reminisant to the calls in games 5 and 7 of last years western finals. Those officials are selected on their merits and abilities to ref these playoffs. It was a pitiful display of what happens in the city of LA (where the money is) to the point of the game being rigged or fixed through officiating not game play.
Luckily the Twolves showed their poise through adversity and came out victorious. If they hadn't I think some officials in that game would have fallen under scrutiny and possibly fired for there part in such a farse.

Twolves will win this series. I have no doubt. They are hungrier, fresher, younger and they have Garnett being gaurded by...Mark Madson. :D

GO KINGS!!!!

I'd love to see the Wolves in the championship this year against the Pistons, I'm a huge fan of KG and Ben Wallace and it would be awesome watching them in the Finals. Plus I want people to stop bashing KG when it comes to playoff time, he's the only reason why the Wolves ever even get to the playoffs, no Garnett = T-Wolves are the next Clippers/Cavs/etc

Flopping is a part of the game and the Lakers do it as well as any other team in the league. What is hated is the hypocrisy of the Lakers fans who try to point fingers when their own team is as guilty as the rest.

picasso wrote: I got $50 that says the won't.;)

I agree the officiating was horrible to the Lakers advantage. If the Lakers win I want them to earn it. I can't believe your still crying about the officiating in the Queens series though. :huh:

KCChiefsMan wrote: The East is about as relevant as France is right now.

Roy wrote: Looks like a skill shot to me. Give the assist to that Queerbait Queen flopper Vlade. :p

Well I see it's all talk as usual. I'll see if I can swing by the office tomorrow to see if you wanted to bet the 50 picasso. If you say yes I will confirm on Saturday if I stop by. That confirmation will meen it's on. Anything short of that no deal.

Last year wasn't lucky for the Lakers. They won the Championship. The Kings lost. At the end of the game it's who has the highest score. But just like Samaki hitting the three to win in game 5 after time expired (they changed the rules this year) or the elbow to the face from Kobe to Bibby in overtime of the 7th game (clearly an offensive foul) and the assinine calls from officials (which are to many to mention) just like last nights game - the series last year was tainted and stretched by officials to a 7 game series. And overtime. Coincidence?? I don't think so.

Last night against the Twolves with the wolves being up 5 points with 17 seconds left Kobe just happens to hit the 3 pointer and get fouled. Zerbiack was raped by the officials in the 4th period. Why?

Money and favor. That's why.

First the media was talking about Shaq is just not the same due to his Grandmother passing away and then there was Kobe and the arm he hurt slamming a ball in the first half of the last game (although he scored his 30).
Hey tragedies happen like Bobby Jacksons mother dying this season and Webber being under possible indictment from the college years and so on and so on.
NO EXCUSES LA JUST POOR PLAY!!!

What I can't believe is that the NBA actually thinks that fans can set there and watch a game like what we saw last night and say - that was a fair clean game.

It's just idiotic.

What? No multitude of posts from Cal today? I wonder why?ROFL

Kings Fans??
 

I feel there are a couple Kings fans that feel that when the Twolves defeat the Lakers that the Championship is theirs.

Hint: You got to beat the Twolves first :D

Go Wolves!!!!