Who asked for your opinion?

On Friday, an employee resigned rather suddenly (albeit in a friendly manner), so we had a long unscheduled talk at the end of the day. When I finally came out of my office, the other employees had bought me a birthday cake, but had finally given up and gone home, so I just found the birthday cake on the conference table. Nice thought, though.

On Saturday, I wrenched my back and had back spasms all weekend.

On Saturday night, my wife took me out to dinner nonetheless, and I've had a minor case of food poisoning both yesterday and today, which continues unabated.

Other than that, though, it was a pretty good birthday. Thanks for the greeting!

Have you tried wrenching counter-clockwise? That would usually loosen the problem.

So that Karma Sutra book I got you for your birthday didn't work out so well after all.

I guess you really can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I can never do that third twist on my triple-twist-somersaulting dismount. I don't know why I even try any more.

I get paid to offer my opinion.:)

Oh, okay.

I highly recommend Percocets with Zanaflex and a beer ...

and, yes, the pun was intended.

MM
~~;)

:shrug:




I feel your pain. :deevee:

:thumb:

:LOL:

Well to quote Mick and the Stones "where is the dude with the the dope"........err......."has anyone seen Bowies underwear"..........err..........."what a drag it is getting old" yeah thats the one I meant.

Sorry to hear about Rain Man's wrenched back.

But did I miss something or am I correct in that Sky Chief #20 hasn't been accounted for yet? According to my watch that would mean we've been in the air for about 5 days.

I'm not trying to push by any means but I have a hot date with a blonde from the Bob Hope tour. I suppose good manners would be to radio ahead and get a message to her that I am about to be killed or something and will miss the date.

The Fooo Fighters haven't been up yet either. I think it has to do with fog. Not sure if it is fog over the English Channel or a foggy head from all the B-day partying this weekend for our air traffic controler.

:)

The last mission he posted was Throw Bomba from the Plane. He hasn't completed the rest yet. I guess we're in a holding pattern.

Yeah, I'm a bit swamped at work with a lot of night stuff this week, plus last weekend kind of got shot. I think I should have a relatively open weekend coming up, though.

The only concern we have is keeping these boys from tearing up the countryside. You know how idle hands are. Maybe we can put them to work building some new runways or something. :hmmm:

I'd vote for a 3 day leave but since I haven't returned yet I agree with the runway building option.

We wouldn't need a new runway if it weren't for all of Rainman's belly landings.:)

Bah, I don't wanna hear about your problems at work. Priorities, my man. Priorities. Now get back to creating missions. :Poke:

We need to get back in the air soon. RNR is getting drunk every night and is gettng an itchy trigger finger.

Lucky for most I can't hit my ass with my hand, look at our flight records :shake:

Hey! I have some dice. I am willing to help out.

I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then, I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results. Then,I'll roll the dice, pm Rain Man to ask what they mean, what for his reply and then post the results.


That way we can all continue the game and Rain Man can attend to his other (cash generating) duties.

FYI, I'll be running some missions tonight if all goes well, around 8 pm MST. I'll be working with Zeb, so I suspect that we'll be posting about one mission per week.

you know.... I really wish I had used the word "wait" instead of "what" in my previous post.

I wonder what the odds are that I would miss-spell it wrong every time.

If you misspelled it wrong, does that mean you spelled it right?

Ow. my head hurts.

mmmmmmm... ugh!

bo, him get ready for drop bomb bomb bomb...

red white (ha! injun, pale face) & blew (ewwww! :shake: ) by you

plenty heap fine plane...

plenty heap fine crew fellas...

we go come back ok, ok? :(



:Peace: :arrow: :harumph: PBJ PBJ PBJ

The other day my head was hurting and then I realized that I had wrapped a big rubber band around it just to see if it would fit and then I had forgotten about it. You might want to check your head for a rubber band.

Good thing it wasn't around your neck, breathing is important some days.

If you think corrective shoes hurt, you've never tried a corrective hat.

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B-17 #14 – Lucy Quipment II – Lucy Reloaded

Pilot Bob_Damned_Dole (6)
Copilot Clint in Wichita (6)
Bombardier 2bikemike (6)
Navigator Loki (1)
Engineer chief52 (6)
Radio Op. old_geezer (6)
Tail Gunner chiefsfan58 (6)
Ball Turret Gunner RINGLEADER (6)
Right Waist Gunner Patteeu (6)
Left Waist Gunner FloridaChief (1)

Target: Rouen
Mid-formation horizontally, high vertically (moderate vulnerability)

Zone 1 Out: Britain

No enemy

Zone 2 Out: English Channel

1 Me110 driven off by fighters

Zone 3 Out: Western Channel

3 Fw190s attack

chiefsfan58 fires, misses
patteeu fires, misses
chief52 fires, misses
ringleader fires, misses

Fw misses, breaks off attack

Fw scores 3 hits
-tailplane is slightly damaged
-superficial damage to nose
-superficial damage to starboard wing

Fw scores 3 hits
-pilot compartment – windscreen is shattered, exposing Bob_Damned_Dole and Clint in Wichita to the elements. The pilot and copilot confer, and elect to follow through with the bombing run before they drop out of formation.
-superficial damage to starboard wing
-port wing – inboard fuel tank is hit and leaking. It appears that it won’t be a problem given the moderate length of the mission.

2 Fws circle, attack again

patteeu fires, misses
chief52 fires, damages Fw190
2bikemike fires, damages Fw190
old geezer fires, misses

Damage Fw misses, breaks off attack

Damaged Fw scores 3 hits
-superficial damage to radio room
-superficial damage to starboard wing
-superficial damage to tail

Damaged Fw breaks off attack

Zone 4 Out: France (Entering Target Zone)

5 Me109s attack – 1 is driven away by fighters

2bikemike fires, misses
loki fires, kills Me109
chiefsfan58 fires, misses
patteeu fires, kills Me109
chief52 fires, misses
ringleader fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

Me scores 3 hits
-superficial damage to starboard wing
-port wing – landing gear is knocked out of commission
-pilot compartment – A nasty shot kills Bob_Damned_Dole with a hit to the lower back, and ClintinWichita sustains a light wound to the right thigh. Despite his wound, ClintinWichita takes over the flight.

Me circles, attacks again

chiefsfan58 fires, kills Me109
patteeu fires, misses
chief52 fires, misses

Entering Bomb Zone
Good Weather
Heavy Flak – 2 hits
-pilot compartment – heat is knocked out of commission
-starboard tailplane root is damaged

2bikemike will not be denied, despite the flak – 20% score

Zone 4: France (Leaving Target Zone)

2 Me109s driven off by fighters

Zone 3 Back: Western Channel

Having held out as long as possible, ClintinWichita descends out of formation so he can avoid frostbite. Old_geezer cuts a deal with two other badly damaged B-17s that need to descend as well, and the three planes drop down in formation. Six fighters that have found their way into the formation also agree to descend and watch out for the crippled planes. The downside for Lucy Quipment is that the lower altitude will make the fuel burn faster. Loki does some quick calculations, and determines that the plane can make it back to base, but it’ll be close.

Zone 2: English Channel
Lucy Quipment II’s little friends stay busy over the Channel.

2 Me110s are driven off by the fighters

3 Fw109s are driven off by the fighters

1 Me109 is driven off by the fighters

No enemy

Zone 1: England

Bad weather – visibility is low and it’s raining

The weather is a problem, because Lucy Quipment is burning fuel even faster now. ClintinWichita bids adieu to his little squadron, banks left, and heads to the coast. The fuel sensors are going off now, as he crosses over the coast and small fishing villages. The weather is making it tough to find an airfield, and the crew sits nervously as old_geezer works the phones, relaying messages up to ClintinWichita via chief52. The plane descends lower, lower down to only a few hundred feet as the plane searches for a place to land.

At last, an airfield appears. Clint lines up for a tough landing – bad weather, strange airfield, dead pilot, low fuel, wounded copilot, landing gear inoperable, and the windscreen gone. He takes a deep breath, sets the glide slope, and coasts in for a perfect belly landing, the rain smoothing the skid and not even kicking up sparks. Give it a few days repair, fly it back to base, and this plane will fly again.

Aftereffects

The crew gets a bit of a respite as the parts are trucked in to repair the plane. A nice three-day leave in western England, tasting Devonshire cream and quaffing meads is enough to make them adjust to the loss of their second pilot.

Eligible for next mission

Pilot Clint in Wichita (6) , promoted
Copilot 2bikemike (6) , promoted
Bombardier Loki (1) , promoted
Navigator chief52 (6) , promoted
Engineer old_geezer (6) , promoted
Radio Op. chiefsfan58 (6) , promoted
Tail Gunner RINGLEADER (6) , promoted
Ball Turret Gunner Patteeu (6) , promoted
Right Waist Gunner FloridaChief (1) , promoted
Left Waist Gunner XXX

That was a much harder flight than it looked like at first.

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B-17 #15 – Sack Time

Pilot Special Ed (6)
Copilot KcMizzou (6)
Bombardier Bearcat (6)
Navigator alanm (6)
Engineer gh4chiefs (6)
Radio Op. seclark (6)
Tail Gunner Luzap (6)
Ball Turret Gunner redhed (6)
Right Waist Gunner Hydrae (2)
Left Waist Gunner Rain Man

Target: Rouen
Mid-formation horizontally and vertically (low vulnerability)

Zone 1 Out: Britain

No enemy

Zone 2 Out: English Channel

No enemy

Zone 3 Out: Western Channel

2 Me109s driven off by fighters

Zone 4 Out: France (Entering Target Zone)

1 Fw190 attacks

Seclark fires, misses

Fw scores 1 hit
-superficial damage to radio room

Fw circles, attacks again
Luzap fires, misses

Fw misses, breaks off attack

3 Me110s attack – 2 are driven off by fighters

Gh4chiefs fires, misses
Redhed fires, misses
Luzap fires, misses

Me scores 1 hit
-superficial damage to radio room

Me circles, attacks again

Bearcat fires, misses
Alanm fires, misses
Redhed fires, misses

Me scores 3 hits
-radio room – radio knocked out of commission
-port wing root damaged
-superficial damage to bomb bay

Me circles, attacks again

Luzap fires, misses
Hydrae fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

Entering Bomb Zone
Poor Weather – low, spotty cloud cover, high winds
Light Flak - misses
Bomb run off target due to weather – 0% score

Zone 4 Back: France (Leaving Target Zone)

4 Fw190s attack

Gh4chiefs fires, misses
Bearcat fires, misses
Alanm fires, misses
Redhed fires, hits Fw190
Rain man fires, misses

All 4 Fws miss, break off attack

Zone 3: Western Channel

No enemy

Zone 2: English Channel

Special Ed and the other B-17s tighten their formation, to the point where no German fighters dare attack. None are spotted anyway, but it’s good flying.

Zone 1: England

Poor weather – low cloud cover
Good landing by Special Ed in spite of the weather

Aftereffects

None

Eligible for next mission

Pilot Special Ed (6)
Copilot KcMizzou (6)
Bombardier Bearcat (6)
Navigator alanm (6)
Engineer gh4chiefs (6)
Radio Op. seclark (6)
Tail Gunner Luzap (6)
Ball Turret Gunner redhed (6)
Right Waist Gunner Hydrae (2)
Left Waist Gunner Rain Man

An easy, nonproductive mission.

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B-17 #16 – Fire Below

Pilot BIG_DADDY (6)
Copilot Skip Towne (6)
Bombardier RedNeckRaider (6)
Navigator CHIEF4EVER (6)
Engineer Jcroft (6)
Radio Op. Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (6)
Tail Gunner Cannibal (6)
Ball Turret Gunner Over-Head (6)
Right Waist Gunner bishop_74 (6)
Left Waist Gunner CanadaKC (6)

Target: Antwerp
Mid-formation horizontally, low vertically (high vulnerability)

Zone 1 Out: Britain

No enemy

Zone 2 Out: English Channel

No enemy

Zone 3 Out: Belgium

2 Me110s driven away by fighters

Zone 4 Out: Belgium (Entering Target Zone)

4 Me109s attack – 1 is driven away by fighters

Redneckraider fires, misses
Chief4ever fires, hits Me109
Cannibal fires, misses
Jcroft fires, misses
Bishop_74 fires, misses

3 Mes miss, break off attack

Me scores 2 hits
-superficial damage to tail
-superficial damage to bomb bay

Me circles, attacks again

Jcroft fires, misses
Cannibal fires, misses

Me scores 2 hits
-tailplane hit, slightly damaged
-tailplane hit, slightly damaged

Me circles, attacks again

Canadakc fires, hits Me109
Cannibal fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

Entering Bomb Zone
Good Weather
No Flak
Redneckraider hits the mark – 40% score

Zone 4 Back: Belgium (Leaving Target Zone)

4 Me109s attack

Redneckraider fires, misses
Chief4ever fires, misses
Jcroft fires, kills Me109
Canadakc fires, kills Me109

2 Mes miss, break off attack

1 Fw190 driven off by fighters

1 Me110 attacks

Cannibal fires, misses
Over-head fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

Zone 3: Belgium

1 Me109 driven off by fighters

Zone 2: English Channel

2 Fw190s driven away by fighters

Zone 1: England

Good weather
Good landing

Aftereffects

None

Eligible for next mission

Pilot BIG_DADDY (6)
Copilot Skip Towne (6)
Bombardier RedNeckRaider (6)
Navigator CHIEF4EVER (6)
Engineer Jcroft (6)
Radio Op. Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (6)
Tail Gunner Cannibal (6)
Ball Turret Gunner Over-Head (6)
Right Waist Gunner bishop_74 (6)
Left Waist Gunner CanadaKC (6)

Got milk?

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B-17 #18 – Fooooo Fighter

Pilot NaptownChief (6)
Copilot Tommykat (6)
Bombardier PastorMikH (6)
Navigator Mr. Christopher (6)
Engineer B2chiefsfan (6)
Radio Op. Adam (6)
Tail Gunner Amnorix (6)
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings (6)
Right Waist Gunner el borracho (6)
Left Waist Gunner NewChief (6)

Target: Rouen
Tail bomber in formation, high vertically (extremely high vulnerability)

Zone 1 Out: Britain

No enemy

Zone 2 Out: English Channel

2 Me109s driven off by fighters

Zone 3 Out: Western Channel

No enemy

Zone 4 Out: France (Entering Target Zone)

3 Me110s attack – 2 are driven off by fighters

KcKings fires, misses
Amnorix fires, damages Me110

Me misses, breaks off attack

Entering Bomb Zone
Poor Weather – clouds and high winds
No Flak
Never doubt pastormikh – 30% score

Zone 4 Back: France (Leaving Target Zone)

2 Me110s attack – 1 is driven away by fighters

pastormikh fires, misses
Mr. Christopher fires, misses
Adam fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

2 Me109s attack

Mr. Christopher fires, misses
Elborracho fires, misses
Amnorix fires, misses
B2chiefsfan fires, kills Me 109

Me scores 4 hits from 6 o’clock high
-superficial damage to bomb bay
-superficial damage to tail
-superficial damage to radio room
-starboard wing – flap out of commission

Me circles, attacks again

B2chiefsfan fires, misses
Adam fires, misses

Me scores 2 hits
-Starboard aileron hit, but still functional
-superficial damage to tail

Me circles, attacks again

Amnorix fires, damages Me109
KcKings fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

Zone 3 Back: Western Channel

2 Me110s driven off by fighters

Zone 2: English Channel

No enemy

Zone 1: England

Poor weather – low cloud cover
Naptownchief wheels to a nice three-point landing, as if there was any doubt.

Aftereffects

None

Eligible for next mission

Pilot NaptownChief (6)
Copilot Tommykat (6)
Bombardier PastorMikH (6)
Navigator Mr. Christopher (6)
Engineer B2chiefsfan (6)
Radio Op. Adam (6)
Tail Gunner Amnorix (6)
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings (6)
Right Waist Gunner el borracho (6)
Left Waist Gunner NewChief (6)

Hail, hail, the gang’s all still here.

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B-17 #19 – War Dog

Pilot Baby Lee (6)
Copilot Brock Landers (6)
Bombardier Boozer (6)
Navigator Sure-Oz (6)
Engineer Gunther_Fan (6)
Radio Op. Lightning Rod (6)
Tail Gunner chi3fs (5)
Ball Turret Gunner Chief Faithful (6)
Right Waist Gunner dtebbe (5)
Left Waist Gunner Braincase

Target: Rouen
Mid-formation horizontally, low vertically (high vulnerability)

Zone 1 Out: Britain

No enemy

Zone 2 Out: English Channel

1 Fw190, 3 Me109s attack – 3 Me109s are driven off by fighters

boozer fires, hits Fw190
chi3fs fires, misses
chief Faithful fires, misses

Fw misses, breaks off attack

Zone 3 Out: France (Entering Target Zone)

1 Me110 driven off by fighters

5 Fw190s attack – 2 are driven off by fighters

braincase fires, misses
chief Faithful fires, misses
lightning rod fires, misses
gunther_fan fires, damages Fw190

Damaged Fw misses, breaks off attack

Fw misses, breaks off attack

Fw scores 1 hit
-radio room – radio knocked out of commission

Fw circles, attacks again

chi3fs fires, misses, damages Fw190
boozer fires, misses
braincase fires, hits Fw190

Badly damage Fw misses, breaks off attack

Entering Bomb Zone
Good Weather
Light Flak - misses
Better than nothing as boozer slightly misjudges – 5% score

Zone 4 Back: France (Leaving Target Zone)

2 Me109s driven off by fighters

1 Me109 attacks

chi3fs fires, misses
gunther_fan fires, misses
boozer fires, misses

Me misses, breaks off attack

Zone 3: Western Channel

2 Me109s, 1 Me110 attack – 1 Me109 is driven off by fighters

chi3fs fires, misses
gunther_fan fires, misses
chief Faithful fires, misses
lightning rod fires, misses

Mes miss, break off attack

Zone 2: English Channel

No enemy

Zone 1: England

Bad weather – it just keeps getting worse
Good landing by baby lee despite the weather

Aftereffects

None

Eligible for next mission

Pilot Baby Lee (6)
Copilot Brock Landers (6)
Bombardier Boozer (6)
Navigator Sure-Oz (6)
Engineer Gunther_Fan (6)
Radio Op. Lightning Rod (6)
Tail Gunner chi3fs (5)
Ball Turret Gunner Chief Faithful (6)
Right Waist Gunner dtebbe (5)
Left Waist Gunner Braincase

No one even got nicked. Overall, it was an acceptable mission even if the bombardier isn’t happy.

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B-17 #20 – Sky Chief

Pilot DenverChief (6)
Copilot Iowanian (6)
Bombardier Sky (6)
Navigator Lzen (6)
Engineer AustinChief (6)
Radio Op. Michael Michigan (5)
Tail Gunner DJay23 (6)
Ball Turret Gunner UMKC 1L (6)
Right Waist Gunner mlyonsd (6)
Left Waist Gunner PennyWise (6)

Target: Meaulte
Mid-formation horizontally, high vertically (moderate vulnerability)

Zone 1 Out: Britain

No enemy

Zone 2 Out: English Channel

3 Me109s driven off by fighters

Zone 3 Out: France (Entering Target Zone)

2 Fw190s driven off by fighters

5 Me109s attack – 3 are driven off by fighters

Austinchief fires, misses
Djay23 fires, misses
Mlyonsd fires, misses
Umkc1L fires, misses

Mes miss, break off attack

3 Fw190s attack – 2 are driven off by fighters

Lzen fires, misses
Austinchief fires, misses

Fw scores 3 hits
-starboard wing - #3 engine is hit, and the oil tank catches on fire. The engine is still running, but will overheat soon and will have to be turned off or it will cause a major fire. Sky Chief is trailing black smoke across the sky.
-pilot compartment – Iowanian suffers light wound to his lower back and the back of his head.
-pilot compartment – Iowanian suffers a serious wound to his left thigh. It hits an artery, and there’s not much the tourniquet can do. Iowanian dies within minutes.

Fw circles, attacks again
Sky fires, misses
Austinchief fires, misses

Fw misses, breaks off attack

Entering Bomb Zone
Good Weather
Light Flak - misses
Tough break for sky. The bombs are off target – 0% score

Zone 3 Back: France (Leaving Target Zone)

The #3 engine is still smoking like crazy, but it’s running. Denverchief elects to keep it on.

4 Me109s attack – 1 is driven off by fighters

Austinchief fires, misses
Djay23 fires, kills Me109
Lzen fires, misses

Me scores 1 hit
-superficial damage to pilot compartment

Me swoops in from 12 o’clock high and strafes 8 hits along Sky Chief!
-superficial damage to pilot compartment
-nose – navigation equipment is knocked out
-pilot compartment – austinchief sustains a light wound to the right chest, assuring him of his second purple heart.
-superficial damage to bomb bay
-superficial damage to radio room
-superficial damage to waist
-tail – rudder is hit but still functional
-superficial damage to port wing

2 Mes circle, attack again

Sky fires, misses
Djay23 fires, misses
Mlyonsd fires, misses
Pennywise fires, misses

Mes miss, break off attack

Zone 2: English Channel

The #3 engine is still burning, with flames licking out of the cowlings, but it’s also still running.

No enemy

Zone 1: England

Denverchief shuts down the #3 engine and travels back to base on three engines. The fire flickers and appears to die.
Good weather
Good landing

Aftereffects

None

Eligible for next mission

Pilot DenverChief (6)
Copilot Sky (6), promoted
Bombardier Lzen (6), promoted
Navigator AustinChief (6), promoted
Engineer Michael Michigan (5), promoted
Radio Op. DJay23 (6), promoted
Tail Gunner UMKC 1L (6), promoted
Ball Turret Gunner mlyonsd (6), promoted
Right Waist Gunner PennyWise (6), promoted
Left Waist Gunner XXX

That first strafe job was the hardest.

Can I have his Senate seat? I promise not to run for President.

Too bad Iowanian.....we'll have a brat and a beer toast a little later for you. I'm starved, I've been in the air 6 or 7 days.

good job! or as the Brits I have been drinking with would say "bloody good form"

So I've been promoted to navigator now, eh? Great........from now on our missions will mysteriously end up dropping all bombs on France. You shouda never put a war vet behind the wheel.

PBJ PBJ PBJ

:thumb: ROFL

Another one in the books. :clap:

And now a moment of silence for the fallen Iowanian............................






Ok, enough of that. Woo hoo!!! I get to drop bombs now. :D

Oh yeah and nice shootin' there, DJay23. :thumb:

RIP bob_damned_dole
good work clint in wichita, rough landing.
way to stick with the bombsight 2bikemike 20% pretty godd considering how damaged the plane was
gunners 3 kills, 2 damaged! unfortunately it took our pilot
getting wasted to wake us up... <bummer>

tough fight, but we made it back. next bomb run is for bob_damned_dole.
do it for dole!

*****

ps: thanks for finishing up the missions guys. hope you're feeling better rainman.

Damn I have been promoted again. I don't know if that is a good thing or not. It does not appear that pilots and co-pilots have a very high survival rate.

After 7 missions, I have survived 5 times, fallen twice. Should I re-enlist ? I 'm running out of lives here !

Sign me up if ya need to...... can't let the missions fail without personel to occupy another flight.

You know what that means don't you? Your next in line to get capped!:) Us boot brown Lt's in the navigators chair seem to have a much longer life expectancy. Knock on wood.:thumb: