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notorious 05-08-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10609922)
As shitty and abysmal as the Chiefs have been at the QB position in that span from 1998-2013, they only attempted to draft a QB THREE times. In ANY round. Three times. James Killian, Brodie Croyle, and Ricky Stanzi. Three.



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Lex Luthor 05-08-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10609852)
Again, how are you so sure that QBs are busts after one year? Peyton Manning won three games and threw a rookie record for interceptions.

You don't know if passing on Geno Smith or EJ Manuel was the right move yet; thinking you can close the book on a QB after a year is why it's always a good business move for the Chiefs to pass on them: their fans will always rationalize the decision.

A big vindication for the Chiefs' decision not to draft Geno was the fact that nobody else drafted him in the first round either. If the Chiefs missed on him, so did every other team that doesn't already have their franchise quarterback.

However, your point about the folly of judging whether or not someone is a bust after one year is completely valid. I suggest that we apply the same standard to John Dorsey.

Lex Luthor 05-08-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10609922)
I disagree. It's not just bad luck. This franchise is legitimately QBphobic. It's been run by QBphobes. It hired other QBphobes. And I don't care what Reid and Dorsey were like before KC. Until they go out and draft some QBs, THEY are just continuing the tradition of QBphobic drafting that has been a staple of this franchise since Blackledge.

Let's forget even about 1st round QBs. The Chiefs have drafted three total QBs since 1998.

Let me repeat that again. As shitty and abysmal as the Chiefs have been at the QB position in that span from 1998-2013, they only attempted to draft a QB THREE times. In ANY round. Three times. James Killian, Brodie Croyle, and Ricky Stanzi. Three.

That's equal to the number of FBs they've drafted in that same span (George Layne, Shane Bannan, and Braden Wilson). It's equal to the number of picks they've spent on kickers and punters in that span (Dustin Colquitt, Justin Medlock, Ryan Succop).


That's 15 drafts. With the problems they've had at the QB position in those 15 years, only THREE times did they view a QB in ANY ROUND AT ANY PICK worthy of the best selection they could have made for the team?

I'm not even going to tally that as a percentage of their picks, but it's gotta be abysmal. That's at least 100 draft picks. And only 3 of them were spent on QBs.

That's not bad luck at all. That's ****ing stupidity. It's an ignorance and fear of the QB position.

I know Carl was at the head of 10 of those drafts. What's the excuse with Pioli and now Dorsey? Why are we still continuing to hire bozos for the front office who don't ever ****ing draft any QBs?

I really hope Dorsey does the right thing this year. Christ, it's not like the QB depth is that much better than the depth we've got at other positions. If anything, it's worse because there's absolutely no reason why we should be paying Daniel that much money or putting any amount of trust at all in Tyler Bray.

That's a fair point. The Chiefs record of drafting quarterbacks in the last quarter of a century is horrific. I just have to think that if Luck had been sitting there when the Chiefs had the top pick, they would have taken him. So in essence they would have been very lucky, and that would have saved them.

It wouldn't bother me at all if the Chiefs decide to use their first round pick on Bridgewater, Carr, or even Garoppolo.


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