Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6610327)

This.

If you call someone out and you are wrong then they are allowed to call you 1 name, unless it's Dane or Hamas and then they are allowed unlimited insults even if they are wrong. Although Dane has never been wrong so that's irrelevant in his case.

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610526)

Whats even more funny than you dumbasses thinking Casey Weigmann is a good player at this point in his career is that i'm Dane's lapdog. That's just some bullshit Adam came up with living in his grandparents basement.

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610526)

Whats even more funny than you dumbasses thinking Casey Weigmann is a good player at this point in his career is that i'm Dane's lapdog. That's just some bullshit Adam came up with living in his grandparents basement.

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610526)

Whats even more funny than you dumbasses thinking Casey Weigmann is a good player at this point in his career is that i'm Dane's lapdog. That's just some bullshit Adam came up with living in his grandparents basement.

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6610552)

So are you going to answer Sautos question or not?

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610568)

Whats his question?

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6610561)

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but if you're going to throw out insults and call people dumb asses then at least have the ca hones to back it up. Don't just disappear because someone has challenged you on something and you can't back it up with a response.

You said these guys were not the best FA's at their position. If you feel that way then man up and tell us who is the best FA at each position in question.

I may not always agree with Dane, Mecca or OTWP but I always respect them because they have a viewpoint or facts to back up their arguments. You are coming off like a chickenshit by ducking this question.

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610584)

I answered the question awhile ago you choose to ignore it. If these guys were the best at there positions why weren't more teams interested?

Fraley is better than Weigmann. He's 5 years younger and can play more positions.

Judging by the interest other teams had in Chester Taylor you could argue he was the best free agent RB.


I don't know who the best guard is Wade Smith was pretty solid when he played, Chester Pitts, Bobbie Williams. Lilja is good IF his knees hold up but thats why he was released.

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6610593)

You never answered it with names until now. Nice job and for the record I agree with you on most of those.

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6610594)

I find it amusing how some people think age determines the outcome of how a player will perform.

I say reserve your judgement over time. Play the wait and see approach. Let's see how he does when you know, he actually plays.

If you think 37 is old, then talk to Kevin Mawae because he is 39 and is still playing the center position at a high level. The guy is still making probowls, and Wiegmann made one last year. Both guys are warriors. Wiegmann is clearly a solid performer given the right scheme. If we didn't sign him, Shanahan would of. Give the guy a chance. Age shouldn't discourage the common fan imo.

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610584)

I answered the question awhile ago you choose to ignore it. If these guys were the best at there positions why weren't more teams interested?

Fraley is better than Weigmann. He's 5 years younger and can play more positions.

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6610613)

What do you base this off of? He started 4 games last year. How do you know he's still better?

In 08, Weigmann was ranked way higher than him according to PFF. http://profootballfocus.com/by_posit...=25&numgames=1 Thats when Weigmann was used correctly and in the right scheme.

I'd rather have Jones than Taylor.




Still no definitive source saying that that's why he was released.

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6610609)

I'm sorry but age means alot. Someone referenced Will Shields earlier he was a pro bowler his whole career but his last few years he was average. Tim Grunhard even said once a guy has played 8-10 years in the league they begin to drop off.

Is it the scheme or is it the fact Weigmann has struggled aginst the 3-4 and last year every team in the divison played 3-4?

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6610594)

I find it amusing how some people think age determines the outcome of how a player will perform.

I say reserve your judgement over time. Play the wait and see approach. Let's see how he does when you know, he actually plays.

If you think 37 is old, then talk to Kevin Mawae because he is 39 and is still playing the center position at a high level. The guy is still making probowls, and Wiegmann made one last year. Both guys are warriors. Wiegmann is clearly a solid performer given the right scheme. If we didn't sign him, Shanahan would of. Give the guy a chance. Age shouldn't discourage the common fan imo.