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Mr. Flopnuts 04-24-2010 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6708027)
The McCluster pick did it for me. By the time they picked Arenas I was already in "whatever" mode.

I like the picks more in retrospect, now that I've done some research on them.

Still not who I'd have picked, but I've never had a vote in the warroom.
The more I look at McCluster the more I like him. But I'm going to be concerned with our defense until it proves me wrong.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708029)
5'9 200 isn't 5'7 160
I exaggerated that. But he's a little guy.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2010 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708021)
Bullshit.

The Chiefs don't have the luxury of taking an OLB with medical issues that may or may not play in 2010. That was the reason he dropped.

The Chiefs don't have the luxury of Ngata on the line that they could take a ****ing out of shape fatass with questionable motives.
But they have the luxury of passing on players like Daryl Washington, Donald Butler, Koa Misi, etc for a slot project and a KR, who's a marginal CB prospect?

Mecca 04-24-2010 12:15 AM
I see Keg did his best to avoid responding to the point there.

BigMeatballDave 04-24-2010 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707990)
It is, it's Knowmo redux, "These guys are gonna be good just cause"
No one is saying that, but those that hate these picks are assuming they will suck.

kcpasco 04-24-2010 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6708018)
The Arenas pick was the one that really pissed me off. There were way too many better options than Mighty Mouse II.
This

I still don't understand that pick

Reaper16 04-24-2010 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6708031)
And that's why everybody treats you guys the way they do.
I don't care how I'm treated. I care about good arguments. If someone can argue a point well, even if I disagree with them, then I'll respect them. The kinds of mischaracterizations that you pointed out come from people who don't argue their positions well, probably because they don't understand any position.

|Zach| 04-24-2010 12:16 AM
ROFLROFL

DaneMcCloud 04-24-2010 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6708039)
But they have the luxury of passing on players like Daryl Washington, Donald Butler, Koa Misi, etc for a slot project and a KR, who's a marginal CB prospect?
Gruden compared him to Ronde Barber and said he'd watched him since high school.

If that's the case, I'll take it.

Out of your list, only Washington appeals to me. And FTR, I don't think he's a "slot project". This isn't rocket science, it's football. The dude should be fine.

Rausch 04-24-2010 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708021)
Bullshit.

The Chiefs don't have the luxury of taking an OLB with medical issues that may or may not play in 2010. That was the reason he dropped.

The Chiefs don't have the luxury of Ngata on the line that they could take a ****ing out of shape fatass with questionable motives.
They also don't have the luxury of drafting two guys I can look in the ****ing eye and challenge to a foot race...

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2010 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6708026)
Everything only sounds like what you're describing it as if you can't read particularly well. Point of dispute: when we say need at 36 we're also talking about BPA at the same time - win/win, McCluster wasn't BPA at the time and Arenas was like a two round reach, no one would argue against an LT at #5 in any draft unless your team already has one - like the Chiefs - so there goes that mischaracterization, I know that I'll hear someone attempt to argue that some of us bitch about every single move the front office makes but I don't care because that is so stupid as to not warrant getting indignant over.
That's the thing people are ignoring - the value on the board was matching our most desperate needs perfectly at each pick.

You'll never convince me that a project slot WR, a marginal nickle CB prospect, who can return kicks and a TE are more valuable than pass rushers, ILB's, SS's and NT's in a 34 scheme.

Mecca 04-24-2010 12:17 AM
And frankly if you think someone hates everything, why are the people that supposedly hate everything the same people that praised the 08 draft?

Reaper16 04-24-2010 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 6708042)
No one is saying that, but those that hate these picks are assuming they will suck.
It seems like this mistake gets made every year. But here I go again with an important point:

A drafted player can be effective and the pick itself can still suck. I wish that everyone would remember that.

Mecca 04-24-2010 12:18 AM
The draft is about matching need with value, the best drafting teams consistently do this. You don't reach for need or overvalue guys you don't need.

This is not difficult to understand, yet it seems to be for some.

DaneMcCloud 04-24-2010 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6708036)
I exaggerated that. But he's a little guy.
Then I assume you're unhappy with Carr and Flowers? Because, he's the same size as those guys.

If you're upset they didn't draft a "big" CB, the kind that Gunther preferred, I'd get that.

But if you're upset they drafted the most dynamic returner in the country that also doubles as a damn good CB, I'd offer that your anger is misguided.

the Talking Can 04-24-2010 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 6708042)
No one is saying that, but those that hate these picks are assuming they will suck.
no, we're pointing out what terrible ****ing value they are.....but no one wants to read the ****ing words

we had top 5 picks in every round and passed over pass rushers, lbs, and nts for nickel cbs, injured te, and a hb that will be converted to wr....


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