Your post would make a lot more sense if Pioli DID draft BPA. This was not a BPA draft. Outside of the 1st round it was far, far from a BPA draft.

I'm going to stop reading here, since you're apparently not bothering to read what I'm posting.

This isn't about "my guys."

I've listed 8-10 guys that would have been better picks, filled a greater need and made more of an impact than the two we took in R2.

Of that list, the ONLY guys I've championed at any point in the offseason was Daryl Washington and Taylor Mays. And at the time I was pimping Mays, NO ONE thought he'd fall to 49.

Had he taken the BPA, we wouldn't be upset.

The BPA at both picks in R2 were either OLB, ILB or NT.

Value met need, and we passed.

So, how is you and others projecting them as crap any different?

The other side of the coin is that the complainers are projecting busts out of the players taken and projecting greatness out of players who fell to the 5th round.

Why should one side be free to go over-the-top, but not the other?

Because they think they post louder then the rest of the Planet. LOL


PhilFree:arrow:

I'm hardly going over the top and declaring them total busts. Allen Rossum had a 10+ year career.

The elite player projection thing is just stupid and used to justify the selections. It's highly unlikely.

Exactly. I never said McCluster would be 'elite', I just said he looks to be used like Welker. No one knows. Its a crap shoot.

Who's projected McCluster or Arenas to be busts? I haven't seen it.

What I have seen is people upset that Pioli apparently values part timers, special teamers and TE's more than players at core positions. And that he apparently has a short memory, because we drafted a nickle CB, KR and traded up for a TE just LAST YEAR.

Sure, a KR is nice to have, but is it more important than shoring up the worst run defense in the league when there are highly graded ILB's and NT's available?

This board universally wanted them to plug the gaping holes in our front seven, and the board fell perfectly for them to do so.

Funny how just a day later, people are fine with not filling those holes and taking luxury picks instead.

What I ripped them for last year was taking a ****ing 5 tech at #3 overall and being WRONG about him as a player. If they had taken Harvin, Matthews, Sanchez, Oher, Crabtree or Cushing at #3, it may have looked like a reach but in reality, it wasn't.

I also ripped them for taking another 5 tech in round three, taking a CB in round four and so on, while ignoring real needs at WR and offensive line. And while I was correct about Louis Murphy in the 4th, Urbick's been a disaster in Pittsburgh and can't get on the field.

In 2010, they addressed needs with playmakers. They may not be the needs that you felt need to be addressed at the time, but they did need to be addressed.

The only offensive playmaker on the roster was Jamal Charles. Now, they've added a guy like McCluster which can score from any skill position. If they had "reached" for a guy like Linval Joseph, I would have been fine with that but at least they addressed a position of need with a playmaker.

They took Arenas, who Gruden described as a Ronde Barber like player (having seen him in high school and the SEC) over a fatass like Cody or an ILB like Washington, Lee, etc. Again, they addressed a position of need (nickel back) and the return game, getting the most dynamic returner in the nation. I'd have been fine with Lee or Washington but Arenas addressed two needs in one player.

As I stated in a different thread, I think that Pioli is approaching this team as a complete rebuilding project and he's going to put HIS type of players on this football team. I think it's going to be 2012 at the earliest before they're ready to consistently compete for championships, but I think I at least understand the method behind his apparent madness.

Whether it works or not, time will tell.

This is laughable bullshit ROFL

It really is.

Reaper...NEWSFLASH...your best available player isn't Scott Pioli's best available player...

Just because you have "Player X" as your best available doesn't mean Scott Pioli, or any other GM, has that same draft board...

In fact, I find it hilarious that you amateur draft "experts" don't understand that SIMPLY concept...

CLEARLY...the Chiefs were drafting the best on their board when they were on the clock...

Mel Kiper, Walter Football, Hamas Jenkins...just because their BPA is a NT...doesn't mean he's the BPA on the Chiefs board.

You guys are colossal morons and you prove it every single draft weekend.

I obviously can't speak for Pioli... but we don't know if that's the case. Some of these guys clearly use a way different board than everyone else. The whole Parcells tree seems to have their own ideas... Bill Polian is out there in left field playing a different game most of the time, etc.

Get out that Koolaid Pioli pic because that's what we're back too, and stunningly we are right back to the same uneducated posters screaming "Pioli" as if he were unquestionable, it's last year all over again.