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Frosty 12-14-2011 02:29 PM

I hope Gaither is helping to save Norv's job. It would all be worth it then.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-14-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197359)
Left tackle? Right tackle? Oh who cares, they're both the same, right?

They aren't the same. But, guess what? Albert can play RT. And, the 'Gaither won't play RT' is speculation, not fact.

The Chiefs line would have been better with Albert at RT and Gaither at LT, if that is what they had to do.

But, the speculation about him 'refusing' to play RT, is just that. It stems from his stint in Baltimore. What it ignores is his injury and the fact that he came in much lighter than the Ravens wanted as their RT.

But, that doesn't fit the story, so why worry about facts.

Regardless of how you try to spin it, the fact that Gaither is starting in San Deigo and doing better than ANY player on the Chiefs offensive line speaks volumes to how poorly Haley managed the talent that was here.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8203653)
They aren't the same. But, guess what? Albert can play RT.

Based on?

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8203653)
And, the 'Gaither won't play RT' is speculation, not fact.

Michael Lombardi not only said he wouldn't play RT but that he flat SUCKED when he did. But Michael Lombardi is only a valid source when it fits your side of the argument, right?

SenselessChiefsFan 12-14-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8203713)
Based on?



Michael Lombardi not only said he wouldn't play RT but that he flat SUCKED when he did. But Michael Lombardi is only a valid source when it fits your side of the argument, right?

First, Albert has played RT and LT. I know he has been an LT with the Chiefs. But, he played RT and RG in college.

Second, I didn't hear the interview about Gaither. I wish I had. If he is talking about Gaither when he was in Baltimore, it is mainly about his weight. He had back surgery and had dropped a lot of weight.

But, if he sucked at RT, when he did.... it would seem to indicate that some coach got him to play RT.

Lets say he did suck. Lets say it was based on THIS year. #1) Then you move Albert to RT. Yes, there will be growing pains, but he can do it and the Chiefs are better with Albert at RT and Gaither at LT.

#2) Even if you don't want to displace Albert (although he is far from a great pro bowl tackle. He is an average starting LT....but whatever), don't you think Gaither would be better than Richardson? Or would you think that Richardson DIDN'T suck when he played RT?

Again, Pioli can acquire all the talent he wants. It doesn't do any good if Haley is inflexible and won't get them on the field.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-14-2011 03:49 PM

Just watch sunday night when suggs owns his ass.Jags and bills he looks good both those teams where playing backup DE.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-14-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8203913)
Just watch sunday night when suggs owns his ass.Jags and bills he looks good both those teams where playing backup DE.

Still better than EVERYONE who has owned Richardson. At least against Suggs, it would make sense.... but I imagine he will hold his own.

ForeverChiefs58 12-14-2011 04:18 PM

From today:

John Harbaugh on Jared Gaither: "Jared has been stellar."

Haloti ngata on Jared Gaither: "He's big and tough to get around"

aturnis 12-18-2011 12:41 AM

Damn, was just poking around PFF and realized that Gaithers second game was scored out at +3.5. GoChiefs, when was the last time Albert scored that high?

Think of where this team would be if they had just kept Gaither and went:

Gaither, Albert, Hudson, Asamoah, player to be attainted or Mims.

ChiefsCountry 12-18-2011 12:46 AM

Albert has a had hell of a season and you jackasses still want to move him to guard.

Rasputin 12-18-2011 12:53 AM

The back up to B. Richardson is Steve Maneri. We picked him up off of waivers from the PATRIOTS ba da boom.

Tribal Warfare 12-18-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8212157)
Damn, was just poking around PFF and realized that Gaithers second game was scored out at +3.5. GoChiefs, when was the last time Albert scored that high?

Think of where this team would be if they had just kept Gaither and went:

Gaither, Albert, Hudson, Asamoah, player to be attainted or Mims.

yep getting the BEST players on the field I'd buy into that.

NJChiefsFan 12-18-2011 12:56 AM

Mims was brought up from the Practice Squad right? Not sure how he has looked but who cares. Unless Stanzi plays I don't really care how many times Mims lets the QB get hit.

aturnis 12-18-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8212167)
Albert has a had hell of a season and you jackasses still want to move him to guard.

Hell of a season giving up 5 sacks and 8 penalties. How many sacks does Gaither project to give up?

You are the jackass. Some of you guys couldn't fathom moving Albert b/c you're so happy he's finally "decent". In his last 42 games(3 seasons) he's been penalized 25 times and given up 21.75 sacks, and those are just the ones blamed on him. Doesn't count the ones his man got when the QB is blamed.

I remember when the standard on this board was giving up less than 4 sacks a year. Not averaging 7.

Albert will probably give up more this year.

aturnis 12-18-2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8212157)
Damn, was just poking around PFF and realized that Gaithers second game was scored out at +3.5. GoChiefs, when was the last time Albert scored that high?

Think of where this team would be if they had just kept Gaither and went:

Gaither, Albert, Hudson, Asamoah, player to be attainted or Mims.

That'd be interesting to know. Might also put things in a good perspective for guys like ChiefsCountry.

ChiefsCountry 12-18-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8212183)
Hell of a season giving up 5 sacks and 8 penalties. How many sacks does Gaither project to give up?

You are the jackass. Some of you guys couldn't fathom moving Albert b/c you're so happy he's finally "decent". In his last 42 games(3 seasons) he's been penalized 25 times and given up 21.75 sacks, and those are just the ones blamed on him. Doesn't count the ones his man got when the QB is blamed.

I remember when the standard on this board was giving up less than 4 sacks a year. Not averaging 7.

Albert will probably give up more this year.

Gaither was a worhless piece of shit for the Chiefs. Color me unimpressed againtst the Jaguars, who have no pass rush at all none, that he had a game like that. Gaither was a lazy ****ing piece of shit, which is why he got cut from the Chiefs and the Ravens. He is playing for a ****ing contract now with the Chargers. I'm sorry that you are so ****ing blind to that. Go suck Gaither and Stanzi's cock you stupid ****er.


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