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O.city 02-20-2013 01:12 PM

While I like geno as a prospect, it's getting a little overblown around here. Lets just let it play out.

BossChief 02-20-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9419175)
While I like geno as a prospect, it's getting a little overblown around here. Lets just let it play out.

What the **** is overblown? Reading is fundamental...

This shows that all qbs have warts coming out...especially the guys that made it to the biggest stage in the sport.

O.city 02-20-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419183)
What the **** is overblown? Reading is fundamental...

Yeah, or the fact that probably 7 of those guys were better prospects at the time.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-20-2013 01:19 PM

break it down homes, or shut it.
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BossChief 02-20-2013 01:19 PM

Trying to insert something new into a conversation that has beaten every other discussion to death.

O.city 02-20-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419171)
Here is a list of all the quarterbacks in the last 10 superbowls.

Brady/Collins
Brady/McNabb
Rothlisberger/Hasselback
Eli/Brady
Peyton/Grossman
Rothlisberger/Warner
Brees/Peyton
Rodgers/Rothlisberger
Eli/Brady
Flacco/Kaepernick

13 quarterbacks.

How many of them were better than Geno Smith COMING OUT OF COLLEGE?

McNabb, Roethlisberger, Eli, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees aren't really arguable. You could argue Kaepernick.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-20-2013 01:21 PM

i was talking to O.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-20-2013 01:23 PM

Youd have to go back to 1977 to find some dumbassed team building philosphy to compare with the bullshit spouted by King. By Sweet Dick Willie.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-20-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9419194)
McNabb, Roethlisberger, Eli, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees aren't really arguable. You could argue Kaepernick.

lololololololol
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O.city 02-20-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9419206)
lololololololol
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Yeah, I can't imagine you would look at that unbiased. At all.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-20-2013 01:29 PM

shit, i dont even need HINDSIGHT to look at THAT and "lol"...
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DJ's left nut 02-20-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9419194)
McNabb, Roethlisberger, Eli, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees aren't really arguable. You could argue Kaepernick.

You have an internal logic fail here.

If Rodgers isn't arguable, but there was a huge faction of the draft folks that thought Smith was better than Rodgers coming out of college, then isn't Smith also not arguable?

The same logic can be applied to Rivers/Eli.

Brees fell to the 2nd and wasn't Brees for 3 years.

It's an odd question, really. BUt I think a fair statement is that many of those names could have been considered better than Geno coming out of college, but the only truly 'inarguable' example is Peyton Manning. Otherwise you have to put yourself in the position of claiming that Alex Smith was also better than Geno coming out. You wanna hitch yourself to that wagon?

BossChief 02-20-2013 01:30 PM

I think it's arguable that Geno isn't an inferior prospect to McNabb or Brees as a colle prospect. Brees had measurable issues and McNabb.

McNabb didn't even complete 55% of his passes as a sophomore or Junior.

His highest yardage total of a season was 2488 yards

His best year throwing touchdowns was 22.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9419194)
McNabb, Roethlisberger, Eli, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees aren't really arguable. You could argue Kaepernick.

Coming out of college?

He's superior as a prospect to Brees, period. Brees was coming out of the spread before the spread was en vogue, plus Brees is a midget.

I think it's arguable whether or not he's a better prospect that Big Ben. Ben had some serious question marks coming out and he too came from a spread offense.

Out of the guys on that list, the ones that were DEFINITIVELY better prospects than Geno, without the benefit of hindsight, are:

McNabb
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning

And that's about it.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9419171)
Here is a list of all the quarterbacks in the last 10 superbowls.

Brady/Collins
Brady/McNabb
Rothlisberger/Hasselback
Eli/Brady
Peyton/Grossman
Rothlisberger/Warner
Brees/Peyton
Rodgers/Rothlisberger
Eli/Brady
Flacco/Kaepernick

13 quarterbacks.

How many of them were better than Geno Smith COMING OUT OF COLLEGE?

All but Hasselbeck, Grossman and Warner.

If Smith takes his team to a championship game or Super Bowl by the end of his second season, the debate could be re-opened, depending on how that team was led.

But at this point in time, before the Combines, before the Draft, before training camp, etc. it's just damn silly to make these comparisons.


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