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PAChiefsGuy 10-31-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by limested (Post 14564758)
Hunt is not that great of a back. If you take out the first 4-6 games of his rookie season he is very average.

You can say that about almost any rookie. You can't take away a players good games and then say 'this is how good they really are!' That makes no sense.

DRM08 10-31-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14565169)
I suppose it's because he was their "Big Pick" and you can't admit failure ... or something of that nature.

Nick Wright had his graphics department make a slate that compared Baker's stats with Andy Dalton. Big surprise ... Dalton has been playing better (statistically). And Dalton just got his ass seriously benched.

I just think it's difficult for teams to admit a mistake. Especially one as major as this one. And, of course, you have to consider the alternative ... who is their backup QB? I don't even know.

Of course, Baker may turn it around. Their remaining schedule is phenomenally easy. They play a bunch of replacement QBs and some horrific defenses that their run game should dominate.

The Chute Pickles' season may hinge on the donk game. We'll see ...

FAX

Dalton is over 30 years old with a ton of experience. They know exactly what he is at this point. Baker is still a young QB that needs more experience. We will see how it shakes out the next few years.

Pitt Gorilla 10-31-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14565261)
Dalton is over 30 years old with a ton of experience. They know exactly what he is at this point. Baker is still a young QB that needs more experience. We will see how it shakes out the next few years.

He's a second year starter that should be on the ascent.

Fish 10-31-2019 12:45 PM

Can't believe I drafted this ****stick in one of my leagues....

https://i.imgur.com/7e772mi.jpg

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14565207)
I just don’t see how you can say it doesn’t affect him when so much of the game is mental for a QB.

Hence why Leaf was brought up at the start of this by Hamas.

Actually, I brought up Winston. I said that Mayfield is a douchebag, but that he isn't Leaf. Leaf has his own level on the pantheon of douchebag QBs.

That said, it is undoubtedly true that the personality of the quarterback has a significant influence on a team, and someone who is a carping bitch is going to sour things very quickly when the wins aren't coming.

It's no different than other assholes in sports that are only tolerable when their teams are winning.

FAX 10-31-2019 12:55 PM

For the ChiefsPlanet Record, I am not comparing Dalton to Bakerman. I'm merely pointing out that Nick Wright made a graphic thing that compared them.

Frankly, I haven't watched Dalton play a single snap all year ... never even felt the slightest desire to do so. As a result, I am unqualified to make a judgment on the issue.

I do feel capable and empowered to question any quarterback (regardless of age, year, or draft position) who is throwing twice the number of INTs relative to TDs. That, my friends, is absurd. Further, the claim that Bakerman's struggles are (at least) partially due to the o-line or the coaching or his mental stability only goes so far. The QB touches the ball on every play (wildcat-type-stuff notwithstanding) and has a responsibility to his team not to make everybody look worse.

I only look into the future on subjects that interest me. Therefore, I don't know how Bakerman's career will unfold. As of now, however, he looks like crap and behaves as though he's entitled. That's a bad combination and throws my moral compass into a spin.

FAX

RINGLEADER 10-31-2019 12:59 PM

Looking at the stats (6 TDs and 12 INTs) he’s Jameis Winston with half the TDS.

67.8 passer rating? 21 sacks? That’s awful.

FAX 10-31-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 14565473)
Looking at the stats (6 TDs and 12 INTs) he’s Jameis Winston with half the TDS.

67.8 passer rating? 21 sacks? That’s awful.

He has a QBR of 39.6. That edges out Dalton, Trubiscuit, Allen, Darnold, and Mariota for worst in the league.

Seriously ... you have to almost make a deliberate and concerted effort to be that damn bad.

FAX

ThaVirus 10-31-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14565181)
I don't know ...

Perhaps there's a part of his brain that says "I'm THE GREATEST COMPETITOR IN THE WORRRRLLLLD!!!" right before he slings a duck behind and over-the-head of his receiver.

FAX

Lol Maybe.. but we'd have seen it with Baker prior to this season.

Aaron Rodgers is another cocky douche QB. His team has no problem winning games because he's really ****ing good.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14565207)
I just don’t see how you can say it doesn’t affect him when so much of the game is mental for a QB.

Hence why Leaf was brought up at the start of this by Hamas.

Being a dick doesn't prevent you from throwing accurately or making the right reads.

staylor26 10-31-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14565573)
Lol Maybe.. but we'd have seen it with Baker prior to this season.

Aaron Rodgers is another cocky douche QB. His team has no problem winning games because he's really ****ing good.



Being a dick doesn't prevent you from throwing accurately or making the right reads.

I’m not simply talking about being a dick.

I’m talking about his blatant insecurity and inability to block out the noise. Do you read?

staylor26 10-31-2019 02:49 PM

Baker feels the need to respond to all criticism. They say the first thing he does after the game is run to Twitter. That’s a legitimate issue.

RedRaider56 10-31-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14565646)
Baker feels the need to respond to all criticism. They say the first thing he does after the game is run to Twitter. That’s a legitimate issue.

Sounds like he'll be the next POTUS with that type of behavior

Tribal Warfare 10-31-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRaider56 (Post 14565691)
Sounds like he'll be the next POTUS with that type of behavior

Oh shit, don't turn this into a DC thread

ThaVirus 10-31-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14565640)
I’m not simply talking about being a dick.

I’m talking about his blatant insecurity and inability to block out the noise. Do you read?

I'm reading. You're just not saying anything.

staylor26 10-31-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14565784)
I'm reading. You're just not saying anything.

No you’re just REALLY being a ****ing moron about this.

Are you’d saying it i isn’t true? Baker can’t focus. He’s constantly distracted by his critics/beefs. How the **** is that not a problem?


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