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Iczer 02-13-2023 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 16807528)
Turning up the field is a football move that was a catch and a fumble clearest day. They had it right on the field and then they waited for Mike Ferreira to muddy the waters for the people to overturn it.
I'm kinda surprised they didn't call forward progress on that play lol. Just to give us some more nightmares.

BWillie 02-13-2023 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16804952)
That was a penalty, but the one in the first half they missed was worse. I’m still in awe that we got that call from Carl ****ing Cheffers of all people.
Arrowhead made him cry. He knew he wouldn't get away with his shit in this one

Imon Yourside 02-13-2023 01:21 PM
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_R979xR1WBc" title="How James Bradberry holding penalty affected Super Bowl LVII finish | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Iczer 02-13-2023 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16807534)
To be totally fair, Kelce had a very similar incompletion last year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This pass was ruled incomplete, not a fumble, after Travis Kelce got three feet down and made a football move before losing the ball. <a href="https://t.co/UrkVNnuIcH">pic.twitter.com/UrkVNnuIcH</a></p>&mdash; Ben Brown �� (@BenBrownPL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBrownPL/status/1467679299360673797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nearly 3 steps
My homer might be showing through. I don't see a football move. The nearly 3 feet doesn't matter if it's nearly to me. It has to be clear. He's still in the act of securing the ball.

SupDock 02-13-2023 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16807546)
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_R979xR1WBc" title="How James Bradberry holding penalty affected Super Bowl LVII finish | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I feel like they weren’t playing the correct still shot from the game to show the penalty. The frame they were focused on had the ball in the air.

SupDock 02-13-2023 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807549)
My homer might be showing through. I don't see a football move. The nearly 3 feet doesn't matter if it's nearly to me. It has to be clear. He's still in the act of securing the ball.
I agree with not making a football move there. I believe Mike pereira set during the broadcast that they didn’t satisfy the “time element “ when it happened live.

I think both were incomplete. If that happened in the end zone, it would not be a touchdown.

scho63 02-13-2023 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16807534)
To be totally fair, Kelce had a very similar incompletion last year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This pass was ruled incomplete, not a fumble, after Travis Kelce got three feet down and made a football move before losing the ball. <a href="https://t.co/UrkVNnuIcH">pic.twitter.com/UrkVNnuIcH</a></p>&mdash; Ben Brown �� (@BenBrownPL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBrownPL/status/1467679299360673797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nearly 3 steps
:rolleyes:

NEARLY a fumble but it was not.

MVChiefFan 02-13-2023 01:29 PM
Guys none of this matters. Apparently, according to the talking heads, you can’t call a penalty inside of two minutes when taking the lead. You have to give the team that lost the lead a fair chance to get the ball, march down the field and tie it up or win it.

Just like you can’t win the coin toss in overtime and score a TD to end it. You have to give Josh Allen and the Bills a chance because it’s the playoffs and the games are so good and everyone wants it that way.

:whackit:

SupDock 02-13-2023 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16807572)
:rolleyes:

NEARLY a fumble but it was not.
Yep. Very similar.

htismaqe 02-13-2023 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16806950)
Ha, well that’s just Philly. They’re doing that if they win or lose. I think they’re pissed they lost but I don’t see nearly the same saltiness over refs or “rigging” as we did vs cincy. Of course any fan base including our own is going to hate a ref call that seals the door shut in a Super Bowl.
Bengals fans are STILL going on about the rigging. It's absolutely hilarious.

raybec 4 02-13-2023 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16807587)
Bengals fans are STILL going on about the rigging. It's absolutely hilarious.
We have some of those here too. The rigged crowd would be blowing their minds about the second Bolton TD being called back if we had lost.

Calcountry 02-13-2023 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16807314)
Losers cry about refs.

Easiest excuse in the books for subpar play. Lame.
I’m sure there are some older Cardinals fans that remember a safe at first base call in the 1985 World Series versus the Royals. 😂😂

penguinz 02-13-2023 01:53 PM
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COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS

A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:

a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and

b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and

c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.
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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807523)
Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/



So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call hence the OR before that part of the rule.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.
You want to rethink that?

suzzer99 02-13-2023 01:58 PM
Lol at JuJu running a 4.5 (from Florio/Simms video).

wachashi 02-13-2023 02:00 PM
We've gone from:

- "That's not holding! Bradberry was in good position!"

after more angles are shown, we graduate to:

- "It's a ticky-tack call you just can't make at that point in the game, especially in the Super Bowl!"

after the jersey grab still frame circulates and Bradberry admits he held, we graduate to:

- "Yes, it was a hold but they hadn't called a hold ALL game, so they were letting them play. They just need to be consistent!"

eventually, we'll get to:

"I'm just so tired of the Chiefs winning."


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