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BryanBusby 08-24-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913655)
I believe he correct term is go **** yourself tool.

waaah get mad bitch

If you don't like me calling your posts shit, stop shit posting.

Brando 08-24-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913657)
No. He had some positives. He led a TD drive.

Dude stepped out of the back of the end zone. He's not exactly the smartest peanut in the turd.

Mav 08-24-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913657)
No. He had some positives. He led a TD drive.

Hes doomed in Ny, as long as Rex is his coach. John Idzik is ****ing the development of Geno Smith because everyone already knows that Rex is going to be gone after this year.

Putting Geno in this soon now that Mark is hurt, and they don't know how hurt, hes going to get fed to the wolves.....

Brando 08-24-2013 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9913658)
waaah get mad bitch

Waaah not mad. Just stating that you are a tool and should return to masturbating with Geno's game worn jock you bought off of eBay with mommy's credit card.

Hammock Parties 08-24-2013 11:30 PM

Keep ****ing doubting Geno Smith.

Brando 08-24-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913665)
Keep ***king doubting Geno Smith.

I've watched Geno for the last three years. Dude folds like grandma panties under pressure.

BryanBusby 08-24-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913663)
Waaah not mad. Just stating that you are a tool and should return to masturbating with Geno's game worn jock you bought off of eBay with mommy's credit card.

You seem pretty mad, bro.

I don't ****ing care if you hate Geno Smith. I didn't call dane a shit poster because he didn't like Geno Smith, but his posts at least had substance. Your posts ****ing suck. Go to CC.

Brando 08-24-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9913671)
You seem pretty mad, bro.

I'm not your bro you inbred hick. I'm not mad just passive aggressive.

BryanBusby 08-24-2013 11:36 PM

**** yourself in the ass with a tonka truck covered with herpes.

Brando 08-24-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9913676)
**** yourself in the ass with a tonka truck covered with herpes.

That's the spirit. Now repeat it this time without Claytex's cock in your mouth.

Easy 6 08-24-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9913652)
It was his team had played well tonight. He's not even close to being ready but thanks to the injury to Sanchez, he very well might start the season.

Honestly, if i were a jets fan, i'd say let it rip with geno, everyone already knows sanchize is a poser.

Why wait around for the future, go see if you can get it.

Brando 08-24-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9913671)
You seem pretty mad, bro.

I don't ****ing care if you hate Geno Smith. I didn't call dane a shit poster because he didn't like Geno Smith, but his posts at least had substance. Your posts ****ing suck. Go to CC.

I see you edited your post. Clearly you lack the reading comprehension skills to appreciate my posts.
The dumpster fire remark was a reference to one of Claytex's earlier posts about Alex.
I don't know what CC is but I'm guessing it's a dating site for you and your cousins. I'm flattered by the invite but respectfully decline.

BryanBusby 08-24-2013 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913682)
I see you edited your post. Clearly you lack the reading comprehension skills to appreciate my posts.
The dumpster fire remark was a reference to one of Claytex's earlier posts about Alex.
I don't know what CC is but I'm guessing it's a dating site for you and your cousins. I'm flattered by the invite but respectfully decline.

www.chiefscoalition.com

You'll fit in well there with your sassy insults. Your lack of being able to produce a quality post will make you a respected poster.

Mav 08-24-2013 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9913680)
Honestly, if i were a jets fan, i'd say let it rip with geno, everyone already knows sanchize is a poser.

Why wait around for the future, go see if you can get it.

Fans are going to want that of course.

And its going to happen.....But hes not ready, and its going to ruin him.

They cant baby him like Seattle did, or the Skins did.

He is going to spend the second halves of games trying to win the games, and probably get killed because the Jets have a suspect oline, no receivers, and Rex Ryan is a dumbass.......

Its honestly like watching Alex Smiths rookie season under Mike Nolan again.

And what do you know, both of those dumbasses came from Baltimore.

Hammock Parties 08-24-2013 11:43 PM

Geno knew where he was on the field. He was just a little overwhelmed and a step slow in getting rid of the ball.


http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/cho...dard_709.0.jpg

Brando 08-24-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9913683)
www.chiefscoalition.com

You'll fit in well there with your sassy insults.

You mean my intellectual insulting posts? Just combatting the drivel that pollutes this board.
I don't have a dog in this fight except for fighting stupidity.

BryanBusby 08-24-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913686)
You mean my intellectual insulting posts?

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913686)
combatting

I'm just "combatting" shit posts.

Kaepernick 08-24-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913638)
Yeah but they had him throw 30 passes tonight.

It was clearly a bit much.

A rookie can never have too many snaps in pre-season. The more coach-able tape on him, the better. And you won't destroy his confidence in pre-season either.

The curse for Geno is when Ryan throws him to the wolves in the regular season. He is going to risk killing Geno's confidence and ruining him by not developing him slowly enough. It takes a long time for some QBs to really master the craft. If you just throw him out there, he is not going to have a chance to really correct his mistakes. And you know how nasty the media is to NY players who fail.

Look at all Andrew Lucks interceptions last year, and he came out NFL ready. Imagine him sitting behind Peyton Manning for 2 years. He would be other-worldly.

Geno is screwed, but it is not 30 snaps in pre-season that is going to screw him. It is an ass for a coach who won't develop him properly, and can't even commit to the veteran temporarily to allow the rookie time to grow. Or even commit to the rookie so he knows he is not on the bubble.

Ryan is an ass.

Brando 08-24-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9913687)
I'm just "combatting" shit posts.

You wouldn't recognize a shit post if you were typing it. See that my friend is called irony. Look it up in the dictionary. Don't be scared I know it's a big book full of a lot of words.

tk13 08-24-2013 11:52 PM

The interceptions aren't that big of a deal at this point. He should learn what he can and can't do at the NFL level. That stepping out of bounds play was truly bizarre. That was a high school mistake, if that.

Then even worse was Ryan putting Sanchez in behind the 9th string line in the 4th quarter and getting him killed. Yeah that's the guy I want developing my QB!

Brando 08-24-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9913695)
The interceptions aren't that big of a deal at this point. That stepping out of bounds play was truly bizarre. That was a high school mistake, if that.

Then even worse was Ryan putting Sanchez in behind the 9th string line in the 4th quarter and getting him killed. Yeah that's the guy I want developing my QB!

My guess is Rex wanted to show Peeholi Jr that Sanchez was in better shape to be the starter by marching the 2's down the field.
I would love to have an inside look at that whole dynamic.

DaneMcCloud 08-24-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9913680)
Honestly, if i were a jets fan, i'd say let it rip with geno, everyone already knows sanchize is a poser.

Why wait around for the future, go see if you can get it.

Well, we saw it.

Three INT's and a safety.

Easy 6 08-24-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9913684)
Fans are going to want that of course.

And its going to happen.....But hes not ready, and its going to ruin him.

They cant baby him like Seattle did, or the Skins did.

He is going to spend the second halves of games trying to win the games, and probably get killed because the Jets have a suspect oline, no receivers, and Rex Ryan is a dumbass.......

Its honestly like watching Alex Smiths rookie season under Mike Nolan again.

And what do you know, both of those dumbasses came from Baltimore.

Eh, i just think this league has changed to a large degree, no one really cares if some dude does a Full Mirer and implodes from the pressure, its all about now... in essence, be able to prove you atleast belong, show real potential right away, or the team will probably move on to the next guy.

You'll only get what you got with sanchez, get the kid in there... scheme around him like your life depended on it, if nothing else it will give the team a fresh spark after being beaten down by the same ol' consistent fail they've seen for 5 year.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9913698)
Eh, i just think this league has changed to a large degree, no one really cares if some dude does a Full Mirer and implodes from the pressure, its all about now... in essence, be able to prove you atleast belong, show real potential right away, or the team will probably move on to the next guy.

You'll only get what you got with sanchez, get the kid in there... scheme around him like your life depended on it, if nothing else it will give the team a fresh spark after being beaten down by the same ol' consistent fail they've seen for 5 year.

Rex was an idiot for reaching on Sanchez and then sticking with him. He drafted him, stuck with him and even has the tattoo to show for it.

Geno Smith isn't the answer but if the Jet's are lucky they run Geno out there every game and have a chance at Bridgewater next year.

Hammock Parties 08-25-2013 12:04 AM

Keep hope alive, Geno fans. Don't listen to the drone of the haters.

Look at these beautiful throws. Both came in the third quarter. One came on yet another TD drive led by Geno mother****ing Smith. That's right. He had two scoring drives tonight. That's what he does. He scores the ball.

http://i.imgur.com/qVhQlSX.gif

http://i.imgur.com/zz9JM1Y.gif

Eleazar 08-25-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9913596)
You were butthurt when Geno led a TD drive. You will be butthurt some more. Can't wait!

You should be in a museum. Or a zoo. Something.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913704)
Keep hope alive, Geno fans. Don't listen to the drone of the haters.

Look at these beautiful throws. Both came in the third quarter on yet another TD drive led by Geno mother****ing Smith.

http://i.imgur.com/qVhQlSX.gif

http://i.imgur.com/zz9JM1Y.gif

If a few beautiful throws was all it took to be a successful NFL quarterback.

You are Whitlock and Geno is Jeff George.

mikey23545 08-25-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913685)
Geno knew where he was on the field. He was just a little overwhelmed and a step slow in getting rid of the ball.


http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/cho...dard_709.0.jpg


Alexcuse?

Hammock Parties 08-25-2013 12:10 AM

This sums up Geno's INTs pretty good.

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/...rom-the-stands

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It's tough to pin the first interception on Geno. He underthrew Ryan Spadola a little bit, which gave Prince Amukamara a chance. Still, Spadola had the ball in his hands and let Amukamara outfight him. That is a ball any NFL receiver needs to put away.


The second one was certainly on Geno. He panicked and airmailed a throw.

The third one seemed like a rookie learning experience. It appeared the Giants dropped Justin Tuck on a zone blitz. Tuck picked a pass off because Geno wasn't expecting him to drop. Smith probably never saw anything like that at West Virginia. Moments like that are part of the growing process.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9913710)
Alexcuse?

That is Genooooooooooo!

Eleazar 08-25-2013 12:12 AM

This thread will be being bumped 10 years from now, after Geno Smith has been out of the league for 5 years and probably worn 2 or 3 different helmets.

He'll be one of those guys like Casey Printers that you can't believe there was a huge debate about.

Easy 6 08-25-2013 12:14 AM

Geno didn't attempt a single throw for KC tonight, that's all i really care about.

Tuesdays gone with the wiiind...

Well Geno, bye.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913711)
This sums up Geno's INTs pretty good.

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/...rom-the-stands

Why don't you post up the threads asking if Matt Simms could be a starter? Perhaps the smart post that points out that air raid qb's don't transition to the NFL. Maybe the posts referring to Geno as a bust?

Brando 08-25-2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9913717)
Geno didn't attempt a single throw for KC tonight, that's all i really care about.

Tuesdays gone with the wiiind...

Well Geno, bye.

Thankfully he did not because he probably would have completed quite a few to the Steelers.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913718)
Why don't you post up the threads asking if Matt Simms could be a starter? Perhaps the smart post that points out that air raid qb's don't transition to the NFL. Maybe the posts referring to Geno as a bust?

I'll answer my own question. It doesn't fit your agenda.

hometeam 08-25-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913707)
If a few beautiful throws was all it took to be a successful NFL quarterback.

You are Whitlock and Geno is Jeff George.


It's a start.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9913722)
It's a start.

Ryan Leaf made some beautiful throws.

hometeam 08-25-2013 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913723)
Ryan Leaf made some beautiful throws.

So did Peyton Manning.

See how that works?

Brando 08-25-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9913725)
So did Peyton Manning.

See how that works?

Geno Smith was no Peyton Manning in college. Geno Smith does not posses Peyton Manning's football knowledge. See how that works?

Check out reality sometime.

Walter Payton broke long runs for touchdowns. Larry Johnson broke long runs for touchdowns. See how that works?

This would be a lot more fun if the Geno mafia weren't so mentally feeble.

hometeam 08-25-2013 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913727)
Geno Smith was no Peyton Manning in college. Geno Smith does not posses Peyton Manning's football knowledge. See how that works?

Check out reality sometime.

Geno Smith was no Ryan Leaf in college. Geno Smith does not possess Ryan Leaf's football knowledge. See how that works?

Check out reality sometime.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:30 AM

Geno Smith showed time and again that he could not handle defenses that pressured him in college. That is reality. Take your head out of your arse.

hometeam 08-25-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913729)
Geno Smith showed time and again that he could not handle defenses that pressured him in college. That is reality. Take your head out of your arse.

You are dumb as ****ing dirt.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9913731)
You are dumb as ****ing dirt.

I watched him play for three years. Perspective is a wonderful thing. You my friend are as intelligent as Jovan Belcher after he put the slug in his head.

hometeam 08-25-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9913732)
I watched him play for three years. Perspective is a wonderful thing. You my friend are as intelligent as Jovan Belcher after he put the slug in his head.

Good one.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9913733)
Good one.

Thank you

splatbass 08-25-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9913568)
The Geno debate is now moot because Ryan is going to screw him up so bad, you will never know just what he could have become under McCarthy or Bellichick or Tomlin.

Yeah, we will be hearing this over and over for the next few years as the idiots that wanted to take him at 1.1 will be using it as an excuse. :doh!:

splatbass 08-25-2013 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9913594)
Well then you are apparently not the smartest rat on the galleon son, because the Alex Dingy is steadily heading towards the Cassel Triangle, never to be seen or heard from again.

You are painfully stupid.

Brando 08-25-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9913741)
You are painfully stupid.

I'm starting to think that is a pre-req for joining the Geno mafia.

RunKC 08-25-2013 03:51 AM

Can you imagine the utter chaos this board would be in right now if Alex Smith had a performance as awful as Geno's last night?

Clay would be going on a rampage. One hand typing on CP and the other stroking it to his Anti-Alex euphoria.

Chief Roundup 08-25-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9913665)
Keep ****ing doubting Geno Smith.

I will. He has not given me any reason to think otherwise. So glad we didn't draft this waste at 1.1
We wouldn't have drafted this POS in the 2cd round either.

SanDiego49er 08-25-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9913793)
Can you imagine the utter chaos this board would be in right now if Alex Smith had a performance as awful as Geno's last night?

Clay would be going on a rampage. One hand typing on CP and the other stroking it to his Anti-Alex euphoria.

There would be quite an uproar. Alex played really well as I suspect he will for you this year.

Chief Roundup 08-25-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9913820)
There would be quite an uproar. Alex played really well as I suspect he will for you this year.

That is a given. I would be curious to know how big the uproar would have been had we actually drafted Geno and he had a game like that.

Dinny Bossa Nova 08-25-2013 06:40 AM

Well, I am an admitted old fart, and I remember a few things about the "old" NFL. I'm not unwilling to learn about "today's" NFL. I think I'm starting to figure it out.

Check me on this:

It doesn't actually matter which team catches the ball at the end of a pass. The important part is the distance the ball travels through the air by the quarterback that threw it.

If your quarterback consistently throws passes that go many yards through the air, regardless of which team catches it, he is an elite franchise quarterback, and your team actually has a chance to win the Superbowl.

If your quarterback rarely throws passes that go many yards through the air, and the only players that catch the ball are players on the same team, your quarterback sucks, and you have zero chance of ever winning a playoff game. You MIGHT back into the playoffs, but you will absolutely never win.

Am I getting this right? Now I gotta figure out how they tie the scoreboard to those passing yards and I'm home free.

This new NFL is kinda quirky, it's like learning to play cribbage.

I don't think it matters if Geno throws interceptions, does it? What was his total yardage on them.... Right?

Dinny

|Zach| 08-25-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9912704)

LMAOLMAOLMAO

RealSNR 08-25-2013 07:29 AM

Dinny Blues has gotten ultra aggressive lately. He's been hunting Clay down and trying to bait him and everything. Posting more often than he has in years.

If we're not careful, he'll actually catch him, cook him up, and eat him for supper. Then Kyle will have some sort of lawsuit on his hands, I'm sure.

Dinny Bossa Nova 08-25-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9913855)
Dinny Blues has gotten ultra aggressive lately. He's been hunting Clay down and trying to bait him and everything. Posting more often than he has in years.

If we're not careful, he'll actually catch him, cook him up, and eat him for supper. Then Kyle will have some sort of lawsuit on his hands, I'm sure.

I actually feel sorry for Clay. I have seen other examples of JW children like him. Clay is not just a ****ed up unit, he's a whole sackful of ****ed up unit.

I'm not baiting him, I'm trying to spark maybe one shred of self-awareness, or something. I'm really on his side.

If the day ever comes that he actually "gets it", I hope it goes well for him.

Dinny

FringeNC 08-25-2013 07:59 AM

What always got me about the Geno Smith fellators is using his college stats to justify his selection at 1.1. His Air Raid stats were no better than Seth Doege and not as good as Case Keenum's, and nobody of course wanted those guys.

Of course, Geno Smith is a better prospect than those guys because of his physical skills. Geno Smith may develop into a good QB, but it's not going to be because his stats in college guaranteed it.

Geno Smith is no more ready to start the season than Tyler Bray -- he's a project and had no business going at 1.1.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-25-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9913871)
What always got me about the Geno Smith fellators is using his college stats to justify his selection at 1.1. His Air Raid stats were no better than Seth Doege and not as good as Case Keenum's, and nobody of course wanted those guys.

Of course, Geno Smith is a better prospect than those guys because of his physical skills. Geno Smith may develop into a good QB, but it's not going to be because his stats in college guaranteed it.

Geno Smith is no more ready to start the season than Tyler Bray -- he's a project and had no business going at 1.1.

Rep.

Red Dawg 08-25-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9913820)
There would be quite an uproar. Alex played really well as I suspect he will for you this year.

Go the **** away. Douche bag trolls must die.

GoChargers 08-25-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9913793)
Can you imagine the utter chaos this board would be in right now if Alex Smith had a performance as awful as Geno's last night?

Clay would be going on a rampage. One hand typing on CP and the other stroking it to his Anti-Alex euphoria.

There's a big difference between a rookie QB on the ****ing Jets playing like that and a veteran quarterback you traded multiple second-rounders for playing like that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-25-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9913621)
That's not the point, at all.

I've said since November that the guy had poor pocket presence and wilts under pressure. He's a checkdown king with little to no leadership skills.

He may develop into an average to above average QB. But he was NOT worthy of first round selection, let alone 1.1, because he is NOT NFL ready.

Tonight's game proved that notion.

And we said repeatedly, you asshole, that we didn't want to select him to start right away, but to sit a year and learn.

But in Dane-World, that just isn't how it's done! God you are a ****ing asshat. Quit crying about how you were so mistreated by fans of Geno, you ****ing bitches twat.

What you SHOULD be crying about, is that goddamned, worthless LOSER we picked up from San Francisco, and who is going to absolutely WASTE two or more years of our lives with his Cassel-esque ****tardation.

And if you REALLY THINK it's going any other way, you are clearly more goddamned, ****ing stupid than I will EVER be. Good day, and go **** yourself.

Twice.

Because it's Sunday.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-25-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9913741)
You are painfully stupid.

More excuses for Axl, please!

Mav 08-25-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9913740)
Yeah, we will be hearing this over and over for the next few years as the idiots that wanted to take him at 1.1 will be using it as an excuse. :doh!:

Can anyone tell me that while completely accurate for Geno Smith, (I BELIEVE THIS, I HAVE SAID IT OVER AND OVER) but when I said the same thing about Alex Smith, who was in just as bad of a situation when he was drafted that its just an Alexcuse?

I was told that if Aaron Rodgers were drafted instead of Alex Smith that Aaron would of single handedly raised the 49er franchise.

I am a firm believer that certain qbs can overcome certain things. But, if you have as much dysfunction as a team like the Jets has, the Lions had for years under Millen, the 49ers had from 2003-2010, that it is almost impossible for a team to succeed, much less a qb that has way too much required of him, and doesn't have the coaching, or front office that is equipped to build around the qb.

There is Civil War going on in New York right now. Geno Smith who I believe is talented, is being looked at as a savior, that was drafted aboard the Titantic that had already hit the iceberg and was taking on water.

Mav 08-25-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9913894)
There's a big difference between a rookie QB on the ****ing Jets playing like that and a veteran quarterback you traded multiple second-rounders for playing like that.

Not really at all. If you make the variables comparable, and you compare Alex Smiths first season, to Geno Smiths first season, its absolutely almost identical.

Both were expected to beat out lame duck qbs, Tim Rattay, and Mark Sanchez, both had far too high of expectations placed on them by their fan bases, and neither were ready to play immediately.

Remember, history repeats itself.

Geno Smith is going to bomb out in New York, and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with his skill set. He is absolutely an NFL qb. But he is going to have to find his Sean Payton, or Mike McCarthy to get there.

9er guy 08-25-2013 09:33 AM

Geno looked like the hot turd that he is last night.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-25-2013 09:35 AM

Replace Alex Smith with Tyler Bray in the Poll and then this thread is interesting...

9er guy 08-25-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9913987)
Replace Alex Smith with Tyler Bray in the Poll and then this thread is interesting...

I'm starting to think Bray vs Geno is the angle myself.

Smitty's out of their league.

Mav 08-25-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9913995)
I'm starting to think Bray vs Geno is the angle myself.

Smitty's out of their league.

Insert Alex Smith haters name here...."Yeah, comparing a rookie, to an 8 year vet, that's logical....DUMBASS."

Lol.

TEX 08-25-2013 10:16 AM

Anyone who was for drafting Geno at 1.1 should be banned from this board for a year, and an additional year should be tacked on for every season that passes without them admitting they're idiots.

We can start with Gochiefs who was also in Brodie Croyle's camp a few years ago.:doh!:
Dude a wordsmith you are, but you DON'T KNOW D!CK ABOUT QB's!

Alex Smiff 08-25-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9913956)
Can anyone tell me that while completely accurate for Geno Smith, (I BELIEVE THIS, I HAVE SAID IT OVER AND OVER) but when I said the same thing about Alex Smith, who was in just as bad of a situation when he was drafted that its just an Alexcuse?

I was told that if Aaron Rodgers were drafted instead of Alex Smith that Aaron would of single handedly raised the 49er franchise.

I am a firm believer that certain qbs can overcome certain things. But, if you have as much dysfunction as a team like the Jets has, the Lions had for years under Millen, the 49ers had from 2003-2010, that it is almost impossible for a team to succeed, much less a qb that has way too much required of him, and doesn't have the coaching, or front office that is equipped to build around the qb.

There is Civil War going on in New York right now. Geno Smith who I believe is talented, is being looked at as a savior, that was drafted aboard the Titantic that had already hit the iceberg and was taking on water.

Geno has it worse than Alex did. While Alex did join a dysfunctional team (which top pick doesn't)...he still had some decent pieces. He's had Frank Gore his entire career. He had Vernon Davis for the majority of his career. He also had good coaching in McCarthy, Norv, Martz for the first 4 years of his career. It all went to shit when Singletary arrived but I'd much rather be in Alex's shoes than Geno's.

Bowser 08-25-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9914077)
Anyone who was for drafting Geno at 1.1 should be banned from this board for a year, and an additional year should be tacked on for every season that passes without them admitting they're idiots.

We can start with Gochiefs who was also in Brodie Croyle's camp a few years ago.:doh!:
Dude a wordsmith you are, but you DON'T KNOW D!CK ABOUT QB's!

Patteu doesn't have enough time to white knight all the people that wanted to draft Geno, therefore this is a terrible idea.

Bowser 08-25-2013 10:29 AM

And yes, I wanted Geno drafted here. So far, that looks like it would have been a real mistake, even if playing in New York for that sinking franchise isn't doing him any favors.

TEX 08-25-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9914100)
Patteu doesn't have enough time to white knight all the people that wanted to draft Geno, therefore this is a terrible idea.

LMAO Just my way of cleaning this place up! We can award weekend passes or something...My gosh some of you guys who wanted to draft Geno at 1.1 were obsessed...LMAO

Mav 08-25-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9914086)
Geno has it worse than Alex did. While Alex did join a dysfunctional team (which top pick doesn't)...he still had some decent pieces. He's had Frank Gore his entire career. He had Vernon Davis for the majority of his career. He also had good coaching in McCarthy, Norv, Martz for the first 4 years of his career. It all went to shit when Singletary arrived but I'd much rather be in Alex's shoes than Geno's.

Think about what you JUST said. He had a new playbook to learn EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS FIRST FOUR YEARS in the league.

Its hard enough for a qb coming out of college to learn ONE play book. Now he has to do it every single year?

This is my problem with Alex Smith haters. They refuse to understand how and why great nfl franchises, STAY GREAT.

Continuity. Now, I don't know who you are on the 49ers board, but im sure that when I brought up this point about how and why players like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, and up until last year Big Ben, had been qbs that thrived year in and year out.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that the minute Bruce Arians left Pittsburgh that the Steelers didn't make the playoffs.

Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, have had the same systems their entire career.

Hell, Peyton Manning has had the same system his entire career. Even now in Denver.

What, you don't think that having Jim Harbaugh since day one is a huge help to Kaepernick?

Come on. The situations for both guys, are, and were terrible.

Neither Nolan, nor Rex Ryan believe that a qb is as important as the rest of the league knows.

Eleazar 08-25-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9913983)
Geno looked like the hot turd that he is last night.

After turning the ball over 4 times and managing to somehow look wholly inferior to Sanchez, he might be downgrade from hot to lukewarm.

Mosbonian 08-25-2013 10:55 AM

it still seems odd that people are swooning over Geno Smith....he's struggling in NY and last nights debacle didn't help to give anyone hope, especially that absolute brain-fart of a safety.

The funny thing is, he wasn't really highly sought after once he went thru the Combine. He didn't set himself apart from any of the other QB's and then to see him fall like he did should speak for itself.

He may very well be a decent QB a few years down the road but he was nowhere near someone we should have spent either a 1st or 2nd round draft pick on.

hometeam 08-25-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 9914138)
it still seems odd that people are swooning over Geno Smith....he's struggling in NY and last nights debacle didn't help to give anyone hope, especially that absolute brain-fart of a safety.

The funny thing is, he wasn't really highly sought after once he went thru the Combine. He didn't set himself apart from any of the other QB's and then to see him fall like he did should speak for itself.

He may very well be a decent QB a few years down the road but he was nowhere near someone we should have spent either a 1st or 2nd round draft pick on.


You may be right.


But isn't that about as stupid as calling his career after a couple of pre-season games?

Both things (swooning/detracting) are based on shit that has not even happened yet.

Sandy Vagina 08-25-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9913643)
"Smart" Alex Smith (yes, he's a smart QB) looked like a ****ing dumbass out there for at least his first 6 seasons in the league. Can't beat out Mark Sanchez as a rookie? Try not being able to KEEP HIS JOB over the likes of Shaun Hill and JT O'Sullivan.

And I'm not shitting on Alex Smith here. I'm really not.

Not making a big thing of this, but there is either intellectual dishonesty or straight ignorance flowing here.

Continue reading or don't... but if you want to know what's what? Then continue on...

Alex's rookie season was no doubt abysmal.. that much is true. Terrible personnel and novice and horrid HC.. 20 year old Urban Meyer QB getting thrown out on the field in a WCO run by a 1st year OC.

Alex had a pretty solid 2nd year with Norv Turner as 1st yr OC. It was even better than the 2nd year put up by HOF-er Troy Aikman, and Troy had a much better team supporting him. Norv departs when offered a HC job... ****!!!

Alex's year 3 was going okay, considering that Jim Hostler was the new OC... ask any SF fan and they laugh and cry about that turd.... SF was 2-1... that loss being @ Pittsburgh. Then in game 4, Alex got the separated shoulder vs the Hawks. Then, Alex was goaded by his HC to get back out there and play a month later... that did not go well, and everyone could tell that Alex was throwing with a damaged shoulder. Hostler is fired for being the turd he was.

In year 4, Nolan brought in Mike Martz.. and Martz brought in "his guy" J.T. O'Sullivan. While there was a QB competition, it was not an even one, as Alex's shoulder was heading for surgery #2... a wire was accidentally left in his shoulder and was sawing through the bone with each pass attempt. Oops. He went to I.R. before the first regular season game.

In the late part of year 4 while Alex was on I.R... O'Sullivan was yanked out for poor play and in came Shaun Hill. Martz was struggling as OC and SF brought in Ted Tollner to "assist" with the playcalling. So Shaun Hill did a pretty decent job in spot duty... mostly playing vs crap defenses, IIRC.

Because Hill did fairly well.. and because Singletary.. now the HC.. was an offense-impaired moron, he let Hill take the reins. Hill became remarkably ineffective once defenses had his number.. so in comes Alex around late Oct.. He steps in and does well in some games.. in others, just okay.. a couple of stinkers in there.. but again, this is a crap Singletary offense of predictability.

2010 kicks in, and there are still lots of underwhelming games from Alex... still crap offensive coaching and predictable ineptitude gameplanning. So the OC gets fired after week 4. QB coach Mike Johnson gets his 1st crack at the OC job... It's week 5 @ Philly... and it's going very ugly... but this is the game where Alex just shuts out the boos and the inner pressure... and he starts turning things for the better.

There were some games during this season where Alex was out due to injury... so Troy Smith got the nod. Defenses were typically unprepared for this and Troy had a couple of decent games. After two decent games, he really started spiraling... and Singletary was late in making the change back to Alex. Singletary was on the hot seat and was panicking.. QB carousel in full. Since that time back in week 5 @ Philly, Alex was looking like a pretty good and consistent (as reasonably consistent as QBs are) quarterback.

2011.. Harbaugh and Co. take over... they want Alex back to bridge the gap and turn their franchise into a winner. He does... not with big production, but by being efficient and safe.. but making enough plays to allow for wins.

-King- 08-25-2013 11:27 AM

Are you two paged Everytime someone makes a post about Alex Smith?
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Sandy Vagina 08-25-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9914184)
Are you two paged Everytime someone makes a post about Alex Smith?
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No, we get a sensation of injustice, and immediately sprint to CP to purge the evil. :)


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