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duncan_idaho 03-25-2021 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602698)
I’ve learned that guys like Eric Fisher and Garrett Bolles who have excellent athleticism aren’t going to be necessarily the best option.

I want size, smarts and technique first and foremost. If a guy isn’t the most athletic then I can understand it. Guys like Fisher and Bolles had poor technique and it killed them for years.

Meanwhile a guy like Schwartz who wasn’t the most athletic guy had adequate technique but learned from Joe Thomas and became a ****ing savant there.

God watching Schwartz shut down Von Miller time and time again was just a thing of beauty. And Von was so much faster then Mitch but it just didn’t matter bc Mitch had elite technique. He mastered hand placement, leverage and stance. He was so smart and recognized moves and just out maneuvered those guys.

Get me the best tackle with technique that’s available and have them go to Mitch’s house all summer
What I have read lately/seen lately about Radunz is how good/clean his technique is. Ideally, you get a guy with great athleticism AND great technique.

I'd agree that I generally would take great technique first, though. It's more important than raw athletic ability. But if you can get good technique (or a guy with the foundations of it) and more athletic upside, I'd take that.

The Franchise 03-25-2021 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15602756)
What I have read lately/seen lately about Radunz is how good/clean his technique is. Ideally, you get a guy with great athleticism AND great technique.

I'd agree that I generally would take great technique first, though. It's more important than raw athletic ability. But if you can get good technique (or a guy with the foundations of it) and more athletic upside, I'd take that.
If they take Radunz at 31.....I’m good with it.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 11:14 AM
WR Willie Sneed visiting the Raiders

thabear04 03-25-2021 11:24 AM
Zach Fulton signed with the Giants.

Wilson8 03-25-2021 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 15602732)
This is what I found.

https://overthecap.com/collective-ba...nt/article/27/


Section 7. Four-Year Player Qualifying Contract
(a)
For purposes of this Article, a “Four-Year Qualifying Player” shall be defined as a player with four or more Credited Seasons whose contract with a Club has expired after four or more years of continuous, uninterrupted service with that Club (i.e., the player must have been under contract to that Club and on that Club’s 90-player roster for the immediately prior four or more consecutive League Years without interruption prior to the contract’s expiration. For the purposes of determining whether a player qualifies as a Four-Year Qualifying Player in accordance with the immediately preceding sentence, a player must have been on the Club’s 90-player roster for every regular season and postseason game in which the Club participated during each of the four consecutive League Years.) Such a player may sign a Four-Year Qualifying Contract, which shall be defined as a Player Contract that covers only a single League Year and contains a Paragraph 5 Salary for up to $1.25 million more than the applicable minimum Active/Inactive List Salary for a player with the Four-Year Qualifying Player’s number of Credited Seasons for the 202021 League Years and, in the case of a split contract, for up to $1.25 million more than the applicable minimum non-Active/Inactive List Salary for a player with the four-year Qualifying Player’s number of Credited Seasons for the 2020-21 League Years. In any League Year, a Club may sign a maximum of two Four-Year Qualifying Players to Four-Year Qualifying Contracts; provided, however, that the combined amount by which the players’ respective Paragraph 5 Salaries may exceed the players’ respective minimum Active/Inactive List salaries or, in the case of a split contract, the players’ respective minimum nonActive/Inactive List salaries, shall be limited to a total of $1.25 million. For example, without limitation to other examples, in the 2020 League Year, a Club may sign one player for $1.0 million more than his applicable Minimum Salary and a second player for $250,000 more than his applicable Minimum Salary. In the case of a split contract, under no circumstances may the difference between the player’s stated “down” amount and the Minimum Salary for a player not on Club’s Active/Inactive List be greater than the difference between the player’s stated “up” amount and the Minimum Salary for a player on Club’s Active/Inactive List. A Four-Year Qualifying Player Contract must be so designated at the time of signing. A Four-Year Qualifying Player shall be eligible to receive Additional Compensation subject to the terms and conditions of Sections 2 and 3 of this Article; provided, however, that such a player may receive a guarantee for salary and/or salary advance of up to the Four-Year Qualifying Player’s stated Paragraph 5 Salary. A Four-Year Qualifying Player Contract may not be extended or renegotiated in any manner except as provided in Section 11 below.
(b)
The maximum combined amount by which a Club’s two Four-Year Qualifying Players’ respective Paragraph 5 Salaries may exceed the players’ respective minimum Active/Inactive List Salaries or, in the case of a split contract, the players’ respective minimum non-Active/Inactive List Salaries shall be increased to $1.35 million for the 2022-23 League Years; $1.45 million for the 2024-25 League Years; $1.55 million for the 2026-27 League Years; $1.65 million for the 2028-29 League Years; and $1.75 million for the 2030 League Year.
Good information!

Demarcus Robinson had a contract like this last year.

This type of contract allows the NFL team to be charged less for the Cap hit. It also allows the player to probably be on the team for the next season because of guaranteed money.

If you look at Daniel Sorensen's 2021 contract he gets paid $2,325,000 for a base plus $137,500 bonus, and the cap hit for the Chiefs is only $1,212,500. If we should cut him though, the dead money would be $2,462,500 which is (base + prorated bonus).

If a team is pretty sure of the player, it is a good deal for the team plus allows a veteran player to be kept.

Contract info from -
https://overthecap.com/player/daniel-sorensen/3424/

siberian khatru 03-25-2021 11:31 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TY Hilton told <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatMcAfeeShow</a> that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> made a serious push to sign him and he came close to finalizing a deal with them. They offered more money than what he ultimately got from Indy.</p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1375137611153608725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

siberian khatru 03-25-2021 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15602742)
Every team in the NFL knows that if we're trading up, we're trading up for a LT.

Kyle Pitts is gonna blow your mind.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 11:34 AM
In other words, Hilton had no intention of leaving Indy.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15602787)
Kyle Pitts is gonna blow your mind.
ROFL

Pitts is going way before we can pick. He might be a top 6-7 pick at this point.

RunKC 03-25-2021 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15602742)
Every team in the NFL knows that if we're trading up, we're trading up for a LT.

So they're either going to give up a shitload of picks to trade up or they're going to stand pat and you're going to be disappointed.
Every team in the league knew we wanted a QB in 2017 but yet we traded up. Half of these teams don’t give a shit bc they aren’t in our conference.

Andy Reid’s tree is damn near 1/3 of the league now anyway. That’s what partially got us Patrick.

Only thing that sucks is every team from pick 21 through 27 is AFC. Though that might not deter a team like the Jets or Jags from securing an extra pick to do their rebuild.

staylor26 03-25-2021 11:36 AM
The problem I have with Radunz is that he wasn’t dominant at that level of play. That scares me with small school guys.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 11:39 AM
Breeland will be back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting to get a pretty clear sign that Breeland is coming back on 1 year deal and what the contract would look like.</p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1375136171605557250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 03-25-2021 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602805)
Breeland will be back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting to get a pretty clear sign that Breeland is coming back on 1 year deal and what the contract would look like.</p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1375136171605557250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Good.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 11:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15602819)
Good.
Breeland deserves a long term contract tbh tho. He’s been our best outside CB for awhile now. He’s been rock solid as well

RunKC 03-25-2021 11:50 AM
So basically we’re bringing the band back + Thuney (as of now). I’d like to get a Ingram in here and maybe one more rotational player, then attack LT, WR and LB/S in the draft.

Please, for the love of Christ....get Neimann off the ****ing field

The Franchise 03-25-2021 11:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602821)
Breeland deserves a long term contract tbh tho. He’s been our best outside CB for awhile now. He’s been rock solid as well
2 years max with the ability to get out after one. Breeland is past the point of long term, big money deals. Once he loses a step....he’s done.

The Franchise 03-25-2021 11:51 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Cardinals’ CB Malcolm Butler now will play his home games at State Farm Stadium. The first time he played there - then known as University of Phoenix Stadium - he recorded the most well-known interception in Super Bowl history. <a href="https://t.co/niyy8Yz5NP">pic.twitter.com/niyy8Yz5NP</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1375134490612412416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Archie Bunker 03-25-2021 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602805)
Breeland will be back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting to get a pretty clear sign that Breeland is coming back on 1 year deal and what the contract would look like.</p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1375136171605557250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Excellent, probably a guy I think too highly of but I love his style of play. Let’s Sneed continue to play all over the place as well.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602828)
So basically we’re bringing the band back + Thuney (as of now). I’d like to get a Ingram in here and maybe one more rotational player, then attack LT, WR and LB/S in the draft.

Please, for the love of Christ....get Neimann off the ****ing field
I'd willing to bet we still see a healthy dose of Niemann given that they were so hesitant to put Gay out there as a rookie and he's really the replacement for Wilson anyway.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:02 PM
Bringing Breeland back on a 1-year deal is a great move.

Jamie 03-25-2021 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15602740)
Andy was in Philly for 10 years and had TWO LT's. I'm sure you can handle elementary math, right?

It really doesn't matter how they're "looked" at. Andy has NEVER had a left tackle nailed down for a "decade". That's actually reality, not some BS fantasy.
In fairness, both of those players lasted in Philly for a decade. Andy just got fired before the second one was finished.

BossChief 03-25-2021 12:11 PM
Breeland has been one of the best ROI players we’re had over the last 10 years.

We’ve paid him in gift cards and he’s been a true #1 corner for that price.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15602862)
Breeland has been one of the best ROI players we’re had over the last 10 years.

We’ve paid him in gift cards and he’s been a true #1 corner for that price.
Exactly.

BossChief 03-25-2021 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15602740)
Andy was in Philly for 10 years and had TWO LT's. I'm sure you can handle elementary math, right?

It really doesn't matter how they're "looked" at. Andy has NEVER had a left tackle nailed down for a "decade". That's actually reality, not some BS fantasy.
Ummm you’re totally wrong...Andy was in Philly from 1999-2012...elementary math must be hard if you think that’s 10 years.

Moving on to the rest of your post...

Tre Thomas was Andy’s LT for his first 10 years there.

After that, he traded a lot for Jason Peters (and made him the highest paid LT of all time) and Jason Peters has been their LT for 12 years...granted some of those were after Andy left...

Then Andy got to KC and spent his first pick on...a left tackle.

Pitt Gorilla 03-25-2021 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15602874)
Ummm you’re totally wrong...Andy was in Philly from 1999-2012...elementary math must be hard if you think that’s 10 years.

Moving on to the rest of your post...

Tre Thomas was Andy’s LT for his first 10 years there.

After that, he traded a lot for Jason Peters (and made him the highest paid LT of all time) and Jason Peters has been their LT for 12 years...granted some of those were after Andy left...

Then Andy got to KC and spent his first pick on...a left tackle.
Good thing you edited that; would hate to think that "elementary math must be hard" for you.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15602874)
Ummm you’re totally wrong...Andy was in Philly from 1999-2012...elementary math must be hard if you think that’s 10 years.

Moving on to the rest of your post...

Tre Thomas was Andy’s LT for his first 20 years there.

After that, he traded a lot for Jason Peters (and made him the highest paid LT of all time) and Jason Peters has been their LT for 12 years...granted some of those were after Andy left...

Then Andy got to KC and spent his first pick on...a left tackle.
Tre Thomas played 11 seasons in Philly, one of them before Andy arrived, so he wasn't drafted by that regime. Peters was acquired in 2009 and Andy was fired after the 2012 season. Far short of 10 years.

Again, NOBODY in the NFL drafts ANYBOY with the idea of "nailing things down for the next decade". Ever. It's pure fantasy to even think it. The average NFL career isn't even 5 years, let alone 10.

BossChief 03-25-2021 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15602887)
Good thing you edited that; would hate to think that "elementary math must be hard" for you.
I’m a big dude...6’4” 275 and huge hands. When I’m on my phone, I often have to edit after I post because of it.

BossChief 03-25-2021 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15602890)
Tre Thomas played 11 seasons in Philly, one of them before Andy arrived, so he wasn't drafted by that regime. Peters was acquired in 2009 and Andy was fired after the 2012 season. Far short of 10 years.

Again, NOBODY in the NFL drafts ANYBOY with the idea of "nailing things down for the next decade". Ever. It's pure fantasy to even think it. The average NFL career isn't even 5 years, let alone 10.
We’re gonna have to agree to disagree because you are way off base here imo.

No team drafts a left tackle without the expectation of that pick locking that spot down for a decade.

Pitt Gorilla 03-25-2021 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15602893)
I’m a big dude...6’4” 275 and huge hands. When I’m on my phone, I often have to edit after I post because of it.
It was a joke, bro.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:33 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs are re-signing WR Demarcus Robinson, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1375153812026101761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:35 PM
1 year deal

The Franchise 03-25-2021 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602926)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs are re-signing WR Demarcus Robinson, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1375153812026101761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Not a horrible move. Knows the offense and has worked with Mahomes. Still don’t see us passing on a WR in the first three rounds.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:36 PM
D Rob is an excellent blocking WR

BossChief 03-25-2021 12:37 PM
I’m sure that’s another super cheap deal like 1/1.5

Won’t even impact the cap and he knows the system so I’m ok with it. Hopefully this is a sign that Sammy is signing elsewhere.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:39 PM
Tyreek a big fan of this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">☺️thank you chiefs <a href="https://t.co/JRTkAvP4Cd">https://t.co/JRTkAvP4Cd</a></p>&mdash; Ty Hill (@cheetah) <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah/status/1375154976553586688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602926)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs are re-signing WR Demarcus Robinson, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1375153812026101761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Pretty predictable. They need bodies, there aren't really any better options at WR better than him out there right now.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15602900)
We’re gonna have to agree to disagree because you are way off base here imo.

No team drafts a left tackle without the expectation of that pick locking that spot down for a decade.
No team drafts ANY player with the expectation of that player playing 10 years. Ever.

They certainly HOPE that player can play 10 years but nobody ever expects it.

staylor26 03-25-2021 12:40 PM
For all the talk about Veach missing, he made upgrades and created competition on the interior OL and he’s re-signing a lot of our guys for cheap.

He just needs to have another good to great draft while finding our LT and we’ll be fine.

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602805)
Breeland will be back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting to get a pretty clear sign that Breeland is coming back on 1 year deal and what the contract would look like.</p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1375136171605557250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The Breeland thing baffles me. Maybe idk wtf im looking at, but i see a good experienced corner with size, speed and he's an aggressive willing tackler. How this guy hasn't gotten a multi year contract is beyond me.

RunKC 03-25-2021 12:43 PM
You guys are delusional. Demarcus Robinson sucks

TEX 03-25-2021 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15602953)
The Breeland thing baffles me. Maybe idk wtf im looking at, but i see a good experienced corner with size, speed and he's an aggressive willing tackler. How this guy hasn't gotten a multi year contract is beyond me.
I think he's past that age to get a long-term deal. I'm glad he's coming back.

TEX 03-25-2021 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602956)
You guys are delusional. Demarcus Robinson sucks
And he does stupid stuff on the field.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs bring back Demarcus Robinson, which basically equals what the Josh Reynolds signing would have brought.<br><br>Past four years...<br><br>Robinson: 120 rec., 1,415 yards, 11 TDs<br>Reynolds: 113 rec., 1,450 yards, 9 TDs</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1375155471938621442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602956)
You guys are delusional. Demarcus Robinson sucks
As a 4th-5th receiving option he's pretty damn good.

CasselGotPeedOn 03-25-2021 12:46 PM
Robinson will be WR2 to start the season.

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15602972)
Robinson will be WR2 to start the season.
Doubt it. He was already losing reps to Pringle to close the season.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:47 PM
Robinson is a damn good player but for the love of god please D Rob quit running sideways after you catch the ball

RunKC 03-25-2021 12:48 PM
We brought this guy back LMAO

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staylor26 03-25-2021 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602956)
You guys are delusional. Demarcus Robinson sucks
Who’s expecting Robinson to be anything more than he is? A body that knows the offense.

staylor26 03-25-2021 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602979)
We brought this guy back LMAO

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Are they asking him to be a PR?

No, so how exactly is this relevant?

siberian khatru 03-25-2021 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15602979)
We brought this guy back LMAO

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You should've seen the profane rant I went on in my living room when that happened.

O.city 03-25-2021 12:49 PM
He's.....fine i guess.

Meh, whatever.

Draft someone.

CasselGotPeedOn 03-25-2021 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15602975)
Doubt it. He was already losing reps to Pringle to close the season.
Unless they sign Brown or bring back Sammy, who else is it gonna be? I don't see us going WR in round 1, so at the earliest it would be a late 2nd round pick, and I highly doubt that guy is WR2 on day one. I guess it's possible it's Pringle, but I don't really see that either. Andy puts a ton of emphasis on knowledge of the system, and that's what DRob brings.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:52 PM
He’s better than Josh Reynolds who some people wanted

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:52 PM
Hardman better be running routes till his legs fall off this offseason

-King- 03-25-2021 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15602988)
He's.....fine i guess.

Meh, whatever.

Draft someone.
This.

staylor26 03-25-2021 12:54 PM
I don’t think we have to even question whether the Chiefs will draft a WR.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602977)
Robinson is a damn good player but for the love of god please D Rob quit running sideways after you catch the ball
Every single guy on the team does it.

Andy Reid is going to have to put a stop to it because right now, he's not telling them not to. It's pretty obvious.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15603006)
Every single guy on the team does it.

Andy Reid is going to have to put a stop to it because right now, he's not telling them not to. It's pretty obvious.
Tyreek is the only guy who should be allowed to because of his speed

RunKC 03-25-2021 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15603005)
I don’t think we have to even question whether the Chiefs will draft a WR.
Well yeah. Because we couldn’t get Juju or Reynolds.

We need to sign Ingram or Okung bc we aren’t coming out of this draft with 3 starters day 1 at LT, WR and DE

htismaqe 03-25-2021 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15603009)
Tyreek is the only guy who should be allowed to because of his speed
There's times even he does it when he shouldn't. There's really no reason for it. The risks outweigh the rewards almost always. BTW, Kelce does it too. They all do it.

The coaches should just tell the entire team to stop doing it.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15603011)
Well yeah. Because we couldn’t get Juju or Reynolds.

We need to sign Ingram or Okung bc we aren’t coming out of this draft with 3 starters day 1 at LT, WR and DE
Robinson is better than Reynolds tho

O.city 03-25-2021 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15603011)
Well yeah. Because we couldn’t get Juju or Reynolds.

We need to sign Ingram or Okung bc we aren’t coming out of this draft with 3 starters day 1 at LT, WR and DE
They've gotta fill a few spots prior to the draft. Just can't go in with that many starters needed.

htismaqe 03-25-2021 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15603013)
Robinson is better than Reynolds tho
Reynolds wasn't already on the team. You know how it goes.

staylor26 03-25-2021 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15603011)
Well yeah. Because we couldn’t get Juju or Reynolds.

We need to sign Ingram or Okung bc we aren’t coming out of this draft with 3 starters day 1 at LT, WR and DE
We don’t need a day 1 starter at WR. We just need more talent/youth/depth.

There are starting caliber LTs and DEs in free agency still available. We will sign 1.

O.city 03-25-2021 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15603020)
We don’t need a day 1 starter at WR. We just need more talent/youth/depth.
According to Nate Taylors article in teh Athletic today, they feel they do or atleast need a vet #2 WR pretty strongly.

staylor26 03-25-2021 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15603021)
According to Nate Taylors article in teh Athletic today, they feel they do or atleast need a vet #2 WR pretty strongly.
If they truly feel they do they wouldn’t have settled for Robinson.

Lilmrp117 03-25-2021 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15602948)
For all the talk about Veach missing, he made upgrades and created competition on the interior OL and he’s re-signing a lot of our guys for cheap.

He just needs to have another good to great draft while finding our LT and we’ll be fine.
Upgrading the interior OL is nice but the problem with bringing back a lot of our guys is that we badly needed upgrades to some of those positions. I don't know how they can be comfortable with Robinson as WR 2 and Taco as a starting DE or Niang at LT. Also, the LBs still suck outside of possibly Gay stepping up. These are way too many holes to fill for one draft.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 01:07 PM
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staylor26 03-25-2021 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 15603027)
Upgrading the interior OL is nice but the problem with bringing back a lot of our guys is that we badly needed upgrades to some of those positions. I don't know how they can be comfortable with Robinson as WR 2 and Taco as a starting DE or Niang at LT. Also, the LBs still suck outside of possibly Gay stepping up. These are way too many holes to fill for one draft.
1. They aren’t done in free agency. There are starting caliber LTs and DEs still available.

2. Gay will be a starter and a huge upgrade on athleticism alone. The mental part should come along in year 2.

3. Most of the 14-2 team that coasted to the SB is returning and they have a lot of talented year 2 guys and this years draft that should help as well.

O.city 03-25-2021 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15603024)
If they truly feel they do they wouldn’t have settled for Robinson.
Again, according to the article, they did try. Didn't get it done.

HOpefully it's better in the long run they didn't.

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 15603027)
Upgrading the interior OL is nice but the problem with bringing back a lot of our guys is that we badly needed upgrades to some of those positions. I don't know how they can be comfortable with Robinson as WR 2 and Taco as a starting DE or Niang at LT. Also, the LBs still suck outside of possibly Gay stepping up. These are way too many holes to fill for one draft.
Quit this "Robinson is our #2" shit. It's not a thing. There's nothing that would suggest that's true.

O.city 03-25-2021 01:14 PM
I don't know that I see any starting caliber LT's available that I'd be very comfortable with.

staylor26 03-25-2021 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15603039)
Again, according to the article, they did try. Didn't get it done.

HOpefully it's better in the long run they didn't.
That’s exactly why it sound more to me like they wanted to upgrade.

They didn’t, and they re-signed Robinson and will use the draft to add young/cheap talent.

staylor26 03-25-2021 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15603043)
I don't know that I see any starting caliber LT's available that I'd be very comfortable with.
Nobody is saying we should sign one and not also draft 1 in the first 2 rounds.

The idea is to have a vet and a young talented rookie. Just like RT with Remmers and Niang.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-25-2021 01:16 PM
Robinson signed for the vet minimum. You gotta think that he took a discount to stay here. He could’ve gotten more elsewhere

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15603039)
Again, according to the article, they did try. Didn't get it done.
There are varying degrees of trying. There's $16M a year multi year deal for Watkins trying, and then there's 1-yr barely less/more than what every other team is offering trying....

The WR FA class this year was hot garbage. The highlight player was Golladay, who's a nice player, but not an ace.

The rest? Juju, Reynolds, Samuel and Hilton?

LMAO

Yeah, the Chiefs didn't exactly miss any world beaters in that group. Lackluster at best.

O.city 03-25-2021 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15603047)
Nobody is saying we should sign one and not also draft 1 in the first 2 rounds.

The idea is to have a vet and a young talented rookie. Just like RT with Remmers and Niang.
It just doesn't pencil cost wise though. Unless you can get one of those vets on a cheap 1 year deal, I wouldn't tie up 8 mil on a meh LT if I'm gonna spend an early pick on one.

If you're drafting a guy in round 1 or 2, start him.

ToxSocks 03-25-2021 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15603051)
It just doesn't pencil cost wise though. Unless you can get one of those vets on a cheap 1 year deal, I wouldn't tie up 8 mil on a meh LT if I'm gonna spend an early pick on one.

If you're drafting a guy in round 1 or 2, start him.
8M a year for a LT is ****ing peanuts.

O.city 03-25-2021 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15603050)
There are varying degrees of trying. There's $16M a year multi year deal for Watkins trying, and then there's 1-yr barely less/more than what every other team is offering trying....

The WR FA class this year was hot garbage. The highlight player was Golladay, who's a nice player, but not an ace.

The rest? Juju, Reynolds, Samuel and Hilton?

LMAO

Yeah, the Chiefs didn't exactly miss any world beaters in that group. Lackluster at best.
They weren't looking for a world beater. They're looking for a competent #2 vet.


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