Last time I made it out for a game, our uber driver came in from the east on 43rd to try and avoid some traffic. It's not a bad neighborhood per se, but it's crazy how it's almost rural under a quarter mile from the stadium. Just for fun, I looked at it on street view, and this donkey is about a quarter mile from the turn onto Blue Ridge Cutoff, and this lovely house is about 100 yards from it.

Same could be said about the legends area. It was nothing before people tried. It's not like theyve ever really tried to build around the TSM and it failed. They just never tried to build there and I don't see how the legends would be a better attraction than the present location if they built it up. Would people pass up going shopping there to go to the legends or go drinking if it were available?

Legends is easy to get to from the airport and that entire area from Overland Park to Bonner Springs to KCK is kind of ripe for development I mean eventually all the growth to the south becomes too far for people. I mean, eventually Metcalf runs into a lake.

Yeah it's a weird dead zone with crap housing, industrial bullshit and donkeys apparently.

If you zoom in on that donkey pic you can see all that special Raytown flavor aka trash left in the ditch.

I just can’t imagine why no one has thought of developing that whole area to make it more attractive for year round shopping and dining.

It's a mystery for sure.

You see, Crossroads was just a strip club and some shit local restaurants. Perfect for a downtown baseball stadium to displace. But TSC, that is a goddamn gem that's ripe for development and the Chiefs should fight to stay.

Hell I bet if we go back far enough in this very thread we have a bunch of folks trashing TSC and the surrounding areas when the Royals wanted to move. But now it's sacrilege for the Chiefs to want out of that exact same shithole. Because we love the building. And that's fair, it's a marvelous venue. But you just know it's got the concrete cancer too and will have to be put out of commission one way or another.

LMAO 30 min drive is the deal breaker

People from central and eastern mo can't afford the extra diesel to hump across the state line and back.

I have no idea specifically why it hasn’t been tried but I’m quite certain people have thought about it and researched it and decided not to do anything further with it.

30 extra minutes to watch the Chiefs in person: nah

Sitting for 12 minutes in the drive thru for 4th meal only for them to forget your Diablo sauce: hell yeah brother!

20 minutes.

Lol! But I bet it would have passed easily. Continue the tax and keep everything same, or stop tax and lose teams.

Sounds like a pretty easy decision.

But Shermy needs a new stadium! The K wasn’t good enough for him and his **** wife

I know exactly where that is lol. Honestly, I could drive down Metcalf Avenue in OP Ks and take a pic of a strip mall that looks just like that. Even has Marshall Arts and Smoke Shop rest boarded up. This isn't all that surprising.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some Kansas lawmakers have seen conceptual renderings of what a domed new stadium for the Kansas City Chiefs could look like positioned near The Legends and Kansas Speedway in western Wyandotte County. <a href="https://t.co/QpbigpgY7O">https://t.co/QpbigpgY7O</a> <a href="https://t.co/sSAyS1EMHE">pic.twitter.com/sSAyS1EMHE</a></p>&mdash; FOX4 News Kansas City (@fox4kc) <a href="https://twitter.com/fox4kc/status/1785474341263577089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

yikes

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Andy will retire before going to Kansas, as all mormons know Missouri is the holy land

The future is beautiful isn’t it?

Generic, Soulless, Corporate.

Just gross.

Well, Bills fans can point out Mahomes' playoff losses, too... :shrug:

Not with game day traffic, more like 45 minutes +

I hate to tell them, but I don't think Kelce will be playing in that stadium.

(Aside from that, it looks fine to me as a concept. Whatever.)

And that strip mall was a shit hold in the early 90s, too... I remember there was a 50s style car in the parking lot that was full of newspapers from the mid-80s, sat there for the 5+ years I lived there. Nobody gave a shit about that place 30+ years ago and according to older Google maps photos, it was mostly abandoned except for one end of it as early as like 2015.

I invested in 4-plexes down State...shit-hole city isn't too far from the Legends, just a few miles

Is a few miles more than 500 hundred yards?

Why would they drive by Robandee? Far greater chance of getting shot around Quindaro going from the airport through kck via 635.

I just remember the TrueValue Hardware store. Still not Rattown. Bannister and James A Reed is KCMO.

That's probably a 2 billion dollar stadium, but it still makes more sense than being in Raytown.

Does it matter if you drive past it every time?

Nobody would go that route. Unless you just had dipshit sense for how to get around KCKS

North JoCo has definitely gotten a little seedy in the past few years. It's starting to resemble old Olathe

In other words, "out-of-towners"

Of course it matters dummy. Location matters in real estate and development.

Being three miles removed from a shithole is preferable to 1/3 mile. You understand how that works?

Maybe if you took better care of those places that area wouldn’t be so bad?

That rendering looks 100 times better than the arrowhead one

He’s a 65 year old “real estate investor”. Code for bought a bunch of trash I won’t sink money into back in 2009.

They didn’t even highlight all the luxury suites and lounges for rich people. That’s the important stuff fans want to lay eyes on.

I did my part. Bought two burned out husks for back taxes and rebuilt from the studs. Sold them immediately to investor who dumped at least one of them because the rest of the development has continued to devolve into a crime riddled shit hole.

Yep I thought so too. I am not opposed to a dome but rather it be some kind of rolling roof and they have to play on a grass.

You're a child.

And you’re an elderly moron

I've been down State Avenue many times, probably ~5 miles down to Don Antonio for some of the best street tacos in the city, and it's completely fine. It's an older area, never saw anything sketchy.

There's a mediocre Chinese buffet in a building that used to be a Ponderosa... a good Mexican joint in an old IHOP building. Culture.

From what I could gather, rolling roofs add up to $50mm to the tab, but it would be worth it to not have to watch a game in a dome.

Sounds spooky!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s the video that&#39;s being circulated of what a new <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> stadium would look like in KS. <br><br>This comes as the House and Senate are still working on a tax cut deal. <br><br>The STAR Bond proposal still hasn&#39;t been brought up. The later the night goes, the less of a chance it has. <a href="https://t.co/sE7GA9SD5f">pic.twitter.com/sE7GA9SD5f</a></p>&mdash; Matt Evans (@MattEvansKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattEvansKMBC/status/1785490381615812983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I vaguely remember Bannister Mall... mostly for Annie's Santa Fe and fighting with my brother over the queso soaked tortilla they used to serve chips and queso.

The only stadiums I know of in Rattown is Raytown and Raytown South HS? Please steer me to a professional sports stadium in Raytown.

Truman Sports Complex is nearer to Independence than Raytown. In fact if memory serves me They have an agreement with the Independence Water department that serves some of TSC with water.

TSC is in a barren shithole of an area whereas Village West is already well established. MO needs to come up with something to match what KS is offering. If it's just another piss poor Arrowhead renovation like in the recent vote then it's already a foregone conclusion they are moving over the state line IMO.

Something like this would be ideal IMO as long as they keep grass as the field surface

My favorite part is the ten full rows of parking on one side of the stadium and eleventy billion cars on the opposite side.

Anyone else thinking that the Royals/Chiefs both planned all along to see this vote fail, so they could go their "separate" ways and leverage Kansas and Missouri against each other? Say the Chiefs get a deal cut with Kansas sooner than later, leaving Missouri with nothing but the Royals and their hopes to get a new downtown/NKC stadium?

Might be the best thing for both franchises and the KC Metro region as a whole.

As someone moving to Basehor, I'm all in. I would get season tickets again.

That was the best Annies Santa Fe in the area. The best looking babes they filter later over to Jerimiah Tuttles to dance.

We were the engineer and surveyors for Copaken White and Blitt who built the Bannister Mall. I spent a lot of time out there when it was being built. Memories !

As long as the team stays in the metro area Chiefs fans in general should be happy. As a fan I think the most important thing is that the Chiefs fundamentally remain the same team. And a nice location on the KS sounds fine.

Having said that, for the state of Missouri, surely it's be a bad look to end up losing four championship winning major league teams in the last 15 years.

Maybe the average non sports fan doesn't give enough of a shit for the state to do much about this. Again, I don't know how this works but I'd have thought that the state would want to work with the counties to keep these teams around. Especially when one is in the middle of a dynasty which has thrust Kansas City into the international sports spotlight.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s the video that&#39;s being circulated of what a new <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> stadium would look like in KS. <br><br>This comes as the House and Senate are still working on a tax cut deal. <br><br>The STAR Bond proposal still hasn&#39;t been brought up. The later the night goes, the less of a chance it has. <a href="https://t.co/sE7GA9SD5f">pic.twitter.com/sE7GA9SD5f</a></p>— Matt Evans (@MattEvansKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattEvansKMBC/status/1785490381615812983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bringin' em back to the table with a better plan

Are you 80 years old? Holy crap, my parents took me to Bannister to buy school clothes ( and eat at Annie’s Santa Fe. )

STAR bonds bill fails in KS Legislature tonight, btw. Wasn't even brought up. KS legislature is done until January 2025, although they will have a special session for a tax bill.

Bannister mall was the place to go to get new shoes for the school year

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW OVERNIGHT: Kansas Legislature adjourns without taking up STAR Bond proposal meant to lure the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> to the state. <br><br>Lawmakers may try again in January.<br><br>They did send another tax cut plan to the governor, which she is likely to veto and call a special session.</p>&mdash; Matt Evans (@MattEvansKMBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattEvansKMBC/status/1785577703954915720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The mall opened in 1980 and Annies at that mall 1985. Me I was born in 56. I started Surveying as a entry level Rod and Chainman early in 1977 moved up fast to Instrument operator then in 85 got my first truck and crew as Party Chief. I am not eighty but feel it some days.

you hate to see it

Yes. Neither ownership or even the leagues liked the Royals and Chiefs being tied together. It doesn't fit how they do business today.

I disagree that they did this just to play MO and KS against each other, they are going to sell to the sweetest deal.and it might not be KS or MO. This is how the leagues do business.

Just put the damn sliding roof over arrowhead and call it a day.

Move the Royals to the riverfront as part of the riverfront revitalization.

Putting a domed stadium in Kansas would make the whole Guinness world record dick measuring contest over the last decade seem so funny. Would definitely miss Mahomes playing in home snow games. The crowds will inevitably be much softer and they won’t be able to pack as many people in with the new handicap regulations they’ll have to follow. I wonder if you’ll be allowed to even stand on defense at the new stadium if they build it in Johnson County.

You will get enough snow games playing in Buffalo in my opinion. They inexplicably are building another stadium without a roof, just so they can get firehosed in snow every year

If they wanted it to fail why did they make Reid, Kelce, and Mahomes shill for them on social media and in commercials?

I'm going to hit your house with a golf ball.

I didn't really see it as a big push. The Reid and Mahomes effort was weak at best and we all know Kelce will pimp anything for a quarter and some air time, so did they really make a big effort or did they just go through the motions?

I see baitism lives on hole 10 at Dub's Dread. LMAO

Wish I could get paid for coming to work once every 7 months.

Yep. I'll be the one to say it -

The city ****ed up putting the Current's stadium where it did, because that's where the Royals' stadium should have gone. The Current could have fit in nicely where they proposed the new Royals stadium to be, right across the highway from P&L. It'd have been tight with the railroad tracks right there, but it could have worked. The lack of foresight regarding these two stadiums and what they could have been is staggering, really.

Should have just put it where Royals stadium is now. Haha

Woogieman no one, outside of locals, are going to drive to the Airport via 635 when they would already be right next to 435...

Chiefs got dragged into it by the Royals locking their brains on needing to be real estate developers around a new stadium to have a future.

Chiefs make a bigger profit as exclusive tenant with concert revenue rights at Arrowhead than they would make as owners of a new Stadium that they would own and have to service the debt with no public funding.

It is funny how cynical people think people are. Last year's Super Bowl rings did not have to be all about Arrowhead Stadium being the greatest place on Earth.

Somebody with the Royals ownership group needs to interrogate their belief that they have to make money in real estate around a new ballpark in order to survive.

The whole thing flopped because Royals fooled themselves into thinking their survival depended on emulating the Cardinals. That does not make sense and they never explained why they believed that.

Interesting image. It reminded me that Kansas dropped close to 100 million in bonds for the AR complex, which is still years away from completion after multiple delays. It also makes the stadium site look like an after thought that they crammed into some corner on the map.

Oh good grief. Maybe the City messed up by failing to name you king of the world monday morning QB.

KC Current was the only team looking into that location. Royals never said anything about locating there.

That would be super shitty to shit on the team taking the initiative, because of some imaginary best case dreamed up after the fact and not based on anything anyone is asking for.

Survival? Maybe not. But it's certainly been a national trend for baseball stadiums to try and create entertainment districts around them. With 81 home games per year, it's a lot easier to get businesses to invest around a stadium compared to 8-9 NFL games.

It's worked beautifully for the Rockies - so well, in fact, that the owner has very little incentive to invest in the team because so many people head down to the area just to have a good time, and the game is kind of secondary. :(

This situation is 7+ years in the future. Mahomes will be 35+ years old by that point and I don’t think he will be anywhere near as good in freezing weather as he is right now or earlier years. And I would guess a 35-40 year old Mahomes would really appreciate a warmer stadium.

It was a really radical thought that nobody else in this city once considered, I bet. :rolleyes:

Good on the Current to be located where they are now, but like I said, this city has no foresight. And it hates change, as well, and that equals not having their baseball stadium in a premium location that was available for the taking for years on end.