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IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17365740)
I think we have a good chance tomorrow, but nobody seems very concerned about the loss of Thuney. He's damn good.

Look at the betting odds for Ravens pass rushers to get a sack. Vegas doesn't think they are going to get many.

staylor26 01-27-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17365964)
Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

I would expect at least a couple of those.

RunKC 01-27-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17365970)
Look at the betting odds for Ravens pass rushers to get a sack. Vegas doesn't think they are going to get many.

Bc that DL isn't that good. They couldn't sack Stroud one time and only had 4 QB hits. That's with the Texans garbage OL outside of Tunsil.

They're gonna have to blitz to get pressure and we all know how it goes when you blitz Mahomes

BWillie 01-27-2024 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17365964)
Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

I suspect we see that at leastb5 times

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17365957)
Mahomes career passer rating versus ravens defense: 119.1 (71.78% 12/2)
Lamar career passer rating versus the Chiefs defense: 78.9 (56.2% 4/2)

And that is coming against much worse Chiefs' defense.

Yes, Lamar Jackson is playing in a better passing scheme with better weapons than he has ever had. But the Chiefs have a much better secondary, too, with two All-Pro level corners headlining it and no easily exploited pieces.

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 04:32 PM

Re: the actual game, I am not concerned about Mahomes, or Kelce handling the confusing stuff the Ravens throw at them. My biggest concern is if the Chiefs WRs can read what's happening the same way as Mahomes and make the same adjustments/right adjustments. Does Rashee Rice run the hot when his guy comes off the corner? Does Noah Gray? Does Valdes-Scantling find open spaces in the secondary during the blitz, as the coverage rotates (and does he catch the ball like last week?).

Another and far smaller concern is how the Chiefs OL hands off defenders. With Thuney in there I'd have zero concern. Allegretti is a vet who knows Creed Humphrey well, but he doesn't have a lot of reps with Donovan Smith in live action. Hopefully he's ready.

FringeNC 01-27-2024 04:41 PM

Remember last year when we went into SF and absolutely destroyed what I think was the #1 defense at the time. Until we shut it down late, we were averaging over 10 yards per play.

Zebedee DuBois 01-27-2024 04:41 PM

I expect a close game, tied or one score at half time.
In the second half, when the mental pressure on the Ravens starts to increase, mistakes will be made and the Chiefs will win by 7-10 points.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17365986)
They're gonna have to blitz to get pressure and we all know how it goes when you blitz Mahomes

Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

RINGLEADER 01-27-2024 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366005)
Re: the actual game, I am not concerned about Mahomes, or Kelce handling the confusing stuff the Ravens throw at them. My biggest concern is if the Chiefs WRs can read what's happening the same way as Mahomes and make the same adjustments/right adjustments. Does Rashee Rice run the hot when his guy comes off the corner? Does Noah Gray? Does Valdes-Scantling find open spaces in the secondary during the blitz, as the coverage rotates (and does he catch the ball like last week?).

Another and far smaller concern is how the Chiefs OL hands off defenders. With Thuney in there I'd have zero concern. Allegretti is a vet who knows Creed Humphrey well, but he doesn't have a lot of reps with Donovan Smith in live action. Hopefully he's ready.

There will undoubtedly be some goofs that are rooted in the examples you provided. What will determine success or failure is if Mahomes and the Chiefs can overcome those penalties and sacks when they do happen.

The difference the last couple weeks has been staying ahead of the chains and, when someone does goof up (like the drops on the first two passes vs the Dolphins that got us in a 3rd and 10), can we overcome it to keep the chains moving (the Kelce conversion on that same opening drive).

Again, I think your concerns are warranted and the Ravens will be disruptive now and then. If the Chiefs overcome those moments then we’ll be fine. If drives stall because of it then that will be a whole other story.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17365964)
Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

That is exactly the game plan
watch the Eagles game and look at what that did to Hurts (a smarter QB than Lamar)

RINGLEADER 01-27-2024 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17366015)
Remember last year when we went into SF and absolutely destroyed what I think was the #1 defense at the time. Until we shut it down late, we were averaging over 10 yards per play.

Would love to see Mahomes carve them up in the same way.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366023)
Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

It's not unhinged, Vegas odds are insinuating that it will be hard for Baltimore to sack Mahomes. I believe we are the 2nd least sacked team in the league, just behind the Bills. Even with Thuney out, our Oline should be ok. Also, statistics show most of your sacks were against QB's that get sacked more than average.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366023)
Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

Your pressure rate sucks ass (22nd)and Mahomes is the best in the business at avoiding sacks from pressure...you do realize that right?

Again you feasted on absolutely DOGSHIT QBs racking up cheap sacks and turnovers that an elite QB would avoid

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 04:56 PM

Ravens are soft. Prove me wrong...


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