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*****OFFICIAL 2013 Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp Thread***** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=274697)

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9864976)

I actually found that to be Clay's most insightful and realistic and empathetic post. The gifs are awesome, the statistics are skewed. But that was real, honest, shit-upon fandom.

I agree his butthurt has gone too far. But damn if the triggers weren't very real. The Chiefs QB situation is a travesty at best.

I mean, for crying out loud, we could have still drafted Fisher, signed Bray, and got Geno in the second round. At least then we'd have TWO potential QBOTF duking it out. And we'd still have our second rounder next year.

Quite simply, the front office was unwilling to go through another losing season. So they got a solid yet unspectacular veteran starter. The dream of the first round QB will die for another decade unless we trade or cut Bray.

However, I do believe that Dorsey will pull the trigger on a QB if a guy he likes falls to them. I really do believe that.

When they traded for Alex they had no way of knowing Geno pizza was going drop to the second round- Chiefs just knew he was not a # 1 pick-which he is not.

I thought this was a **TRAINING CAMP** thread- not a still Butthurt over Alex thread-Jeez people put on your big boy pants already-lol

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9865001)

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d05bc7a.jpg

Lions & tigers & bears oh my

Lions & tigers & bears oh my

Lions & tigers & bears oh my

Who is the kid on the right...? Was some Jr. High runninga , "be a qb for a day" program...?

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865046)

When they traded for Alex they had no way of knowing Geno pizza was going drop to the second round- Chiefs just knew he was not a # 1 pick-which he is not.

And neither is Fisher

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9864755)

Shoulder injuries, his playing style, and concussion history say what's up? Nice another positive, you are also saying Alex holds on to the ball too long also!!!!!!!!!!

Ive been said that. You are far too quick to judge me, but I really don't think that you have once read what I actually say about Alex Smith. I am a fan, but I know he has faults. Gun shy, takes too many sacks, cant carry your team. At least that is what I saw the last two years.....How is this so hard to comprehend?

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9864894)

He is a ****ing mediocre quarterback that is the best Alex Smith is. He doesn't bring anything exciting to the game. He cannot carry the team himself like an Aaron Rodgers. **** Alex Smith.

You mean like the Aaron Rodgers who the past two years has choked hard in the playoffs because even as good as he is, he cant carry the defense? That Aaron Rodgers? Look, I know the guy is the best qb in the game, but what I have tried to say many times, is that you have to have more than a QB to win. The ELITE qbs didn't win last year. Drew Brees was on a 7-9 team and his defense was the WORST IN NFL HISTORY. You have to have a strong team. I get it that you guys are so qb starved, but your TEAM around Alex Smith, is VERY STRONG. Alex doesn't have to carry your team..

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9864965)

Your team hasn't sucked ass for 43 years u have no idea about what this team does emotionally to its fans. It is like a big **** you. Yes football is only a game but its a game one gets emotionally invested in. If you are a football fan you are emotionally invested in your team. There is no halfway in.

This team keeps repeating its **** ups over and over again. The front office never learns. For some stupid reason I don't understand each and every coach and gm that works for the chiefs think they can win the Superbowl the way no other team wins it. Its like they take the hardest possible road to winning. It makes no sense .

God, every time I hear this bullshit, I look at my sig, and I look at my avatar, and I go, child, PLEASE. You ****s don't know suffering........My qb is a second year player, and hes OLDER than your qb. Okay? I have an owner, that might have to give power of the team to his 83 year old dad. We have a VP that no one likes, and a GM that EVERYONE HATES. Your team, at the very least, has been in a super bowl. Mine is regularly in the ****ing toilet bowl.......

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9864999)

When was his other concussion? And I don't think I need to study about concussions. If one is an NFL fan then they've learned all about concussions pretty recently.

I still don't recall this other concussion either.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9865000)

Iirc he had one last year and one in 2011. May have been 2010, not totally sure.

But with te new insight into concussions, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it comes to the poit where a 3 one means your done in the league.

he didn't get a concussion in 2011. He wasn't hurt at all. He did suffer a shoulder ding in 2010. I don't recall this concussion that is brought up numerous times.

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9865065)

And neither is Fisher

You will change your mind when Fish is smashing gapping holes for JC to run through.

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9865065)

And neither is Fisher

Now we are going to cry about FISHER?

Almost to a man, everyone here who wanted a qb, was FINE with the pick, as LONG AS IT WASNT JOECKELL. Now that its Fischer people want to bitch about it?

I wish I was able to stay at camp a whole week as I had planned.

Trying to find good info about practice is hard from home.

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9865074)

Now we are going to cry about FISHER?

Almost to a man, everyone here who wanted a qb, was FINE with the pick, as LONG AS IT WASNT JOECKELL. Now that its Fischer people want to bitch about it?

Wrong. A RT was wrong.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9865039)

I agree with most of that.

I'd say that half of our problems have been addressed, if not corrected...a lot less than the 95% Marcellus was saying.

What it all boils down to is how well Alex Smith plays in meaningful games. This team will go as far as Alex will take them and I think anywhere from 5-11 wins is possible.

I'll even push it a step further...if Alex Smith can give us what Trent Green did, we can probably beat any team in the league. Regular or post season.

He would need to develop an ability to ignore the rush and test defenses deep more than he ever has, though.

And that is going to depend on how willing he is to "take the keys, drive the car." as Andy Reid said. There is no doubt in my mind that Alex Smith can be a Rich Gannon type of qb. He just has to play fast, get the ball into the hands of the playmakers, DMC, JC, DBowe, and not get hurt. Don't get rattled if he throws a pick. **** it, if he is going to throw a pick, make sure its throwing it deep to Baldwin, and giving the guy a chance to make a play. hes going to make some mistakes, just don't make them like he made last year against the Giants. Those are the mistakes I cant stand. Even as an Alex Fan, I was cussing his ass out.

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9865071)

You will change your mind when Fish is smashing gapping holes for JC to run through.

How many years of him getting tipped on his ass by scrubs before that happens?

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9865079)

Wrong. A RT was wrong.

Flimsy argument.

Fisher will be the LT next season.

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9865079)

Wrong. A RT was wrong.

Then you weren't listening.....AT ALL.

Andy Reids philo, you know the old offensive linemen himself, has always been that he doesn't value Left over Right......

That's who he is. That's not wrong, if that truly is his philosophy. Another thing that was said, was that if they drafted Joeckell/Fischer and let Brandon Albert go, or trade him, then it was a lateral stupid move. Which I agree with. Now you have solidified your line. At least the tackles. And between Joeckell, and Fischer, Fischer was the more athletic one capable of making the switch.

That's just smart. Andy has seen enough of his qbs the last few years getting demolished, and it has been pointed out on several occasions that like him or hate him, if you don't have Alex Smith healthy, the chances of the Chiefs having a successful season, are slim and none, and slim ran away.

Just truth bro.

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9865086)

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archiv...st-dallas.html

fair enough. Didn't remember that, only remembered that he didn't miss any time, and Tony Romo suffered broken ribs in that game.