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htismaqe 01-15-2025 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17911762)
I personally believe switching him out in the Divisional round of the playoffs is us ****ing around at a time when we absolutely shouldn't be. We should know who our guy is now and ride him to the end.

Starting your LG at LT and playing a bad backup in his place is ****ing around too. ****ing around with inferior lineups is playing not to lose. That gets you best in the playoffs.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-15-2025 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17911774)
Starting your LG at LT and playing a bad backup in his place is ****ing around too. ****ing around with inferior lineups is playing not to lose. That gets you best in the playoffs.

Mahomes played his best ball this year with that lineup, inferior as it may be. Enabling your best player to play his best ball is the opposite of playing not to lose.

Now if Humphries comes in and we get the same level of play, you won't hear a complaint from me. But ill be quite pissed off if we're losing at halftime and then swap back to Thuney.

htismaqe 01-15-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17911794)
Mahomes played his best ball this year with that lineup, inferior as it may be. Enabling your best player to play his best ball is the opposite of playing not to lose.

Now if Humphries comes in and we get the same level of play, you won't hear a complaint from me. But ill be quite pissed off if we're losing at halftime and then swap back to Thuney.

They neutered the offense and changed the play calling to mask deficiencies in that lineup. Saying Pat played his best ball against Houston and Pittsburgh isn't being completely honest about the situation.

Marcellus 01-15-2025 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17911794)
Mahomes played his best ball this year with that lineup, inferior as it may be. Enabling your best player to play his best ball is the opposite of playing not to lose.

Now if Humphries comes in and we get the same level of play, you won't hear a complaint from me. But ill be quite pissed off if we're losing at halftime and then swap back to Thuney.

Correlation does not = Causation.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-15-2025 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17911839)
They neutered the offense and changed the play calling to mask deficiencies in that lineup. Saying Pat played his best ball against Houston and Pittsburgh isn't being completely honest about the situation.

I mean, you could say the same thing about last year.

Sure, we benched Moore and Toney, but its not like we had any breakout players in the postseason, outside of MVS finally not dropping passes. We simplified our playbook and played mistake free football to mask our deficiencies. At the very least, we went into the postseason with a plan and knew our identity. Playing musical chairs at LT while we're in the playoffs isn't having a plan.

Pick a guy, be confident about him, and stick with him, is how I feel about this. If you feel you need to switch Humphries out mid-game, he shouldn't be the guy.

And to be fair to the other side, if you feel Calidendo is THAT much of a liability and you don't trust him at all, go with Humphries. But my main point remains. Pick a guy. Don't pull this musical chairs shit in the playoffs.

wazu 01-15-2025 03:01 PM

I trust the Chiefs to do the right thing with their O-line. The good news is we have options, and a "floor" that is known with Thuney at LT. From my armchair, know-nothing perspective, I want Thuney because I've seen it work. But they could be looking at film and practice reps and saying things can be even better with Humphries. When it gets scary is when there is no viable option, like SB 55. We'll be fine.

MahomesMagic 01-15-2025 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17911853)
I mean, you could say the same thing about last year.

Sure, we benched Moore and Toney, but its not like we had any breakout players in the postseason, outside of MVS finally not dropping passes. We simplified our playbook and played mistake free football to mask our deficiencies. At the very least, we went into the postseason with a plan and knew our identity. Playing musical chairs at LT while we're in the playoffs isn't having a plan.

Pick a guy, be confident about him, and stick with him, is how I feel about this. If you feel you need to switch Humphries out mid-game, he shouldn't be the guy.



Our offense last year did just enough. They at one point went 15-16 drives without a TD in the AFC Championship and SB.


We need a higher level of performance this year and we have the weapons to do so.

Kman34 01-15-2025 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17911865)
Our offense last year did just enough. They at one point went 15-16 drives without a TD in the AFC Championship and SB.


We need a higher level of performance this year and we have the weapons to do so.

?..

royr17 01-15-2025 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17911774)
Starting your LG at LT and playing a bad backup in his place is ****ing around too. ****ing around with inferior lineups is playing not to lose. That gets you best in the playoffs.

It be fine if we still had Allegretti

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-15-2025 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 17911876)
It be fine if we still had Allegretti

God I miss him. Now he's living it up in Washington. Oh well.

MahomesMagic 01-15-2025 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17911868)
?..

It is possible our defense is lights out again but if our offense does better this playoffs we will have much more of a margin for error.

Coogs 01-15-2025 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17911736)
As pointed out earlier that 108 includes a ton of yards from Mahomes and Worthy.

First 5 games of the year we averaged 117ypg while only gaining 79 week 1. In that time frame Pat had 1 game he ran for 33 and we racked up 149 total in that game.

Other than that they (Mahomes and Worthy) didn't do much of anything to contribute to the rushing stats averaging 117 a game start of the season. Games 2-4 we averaged 129 a game almost all from the RB's.

Pacheco got hurt and it didn't seem to slow things down initially, it almost seems we got away from the run in a bunch of games only rushing 14-20 times.

Probably a lot of factors to go with it along with the OL changes but I don't trust Caliendo playing RG in the playoffs. The overall stats prove out he is well well below average there.

Nah! First 6 games Mahomes rushed for 122 yards, or 20 yards a game. Next 7 games he rushed for 126 yards, or 18 yards a game. Last 3 games he rushed for 59 yards, or 20 yards a game.

dannybcaitlyn 01-15-2025 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17911863)
I trust the Chiefs to do the right thing with their O-line. The good news is we have options, and a "floor" that is known with Thuney at LT. From my armchair, know-nothing perspective, I want Thuney because I've seen it work. But they could be looking at film and practice reps and saying things can be even better with Humphries. When it gets scary is when there is no viable option, like SB 55. We'll be fine.

As long it isn’t solely Andy Heck’s decision. I mean he gave the green light to Reid and Veach that we were good to go for the season with a Rookie and W morris.

Hammock Parties 01-15-2025 04:01 PM

Looks like DJ is definitely not starting now. ChiefsBlitz is Nick Athan.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">News out of KC is that the team is leaning towards starting Humphries at LT &amp; Thuney at LG this week vs the Texans. This is per a source given to <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsBlitz</a><br><br>Feels risky. ��*♂️ <a href="https://t.co/c0MsEnCemA">pic.twitter.com/c0MsEnCemA</a></p>&mdash; All Chief&#39;d Up! (@AllChiefdUp) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllChiefdUp/status/1879644418237727091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 01-15-2025 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17911618)
I'm no PFF guy but 28.1 has to be some awful output no matter what your system is. Like can't imagine the coaches graded him out well at all.

Thuney had a 43.5 pass block grade, allowed 10 pressures, 8 hurries, and 2 QB hits in his only game in which Mahomes wasn't throwing the ball faster than he ever has. Thats a 23% pressure rate. The next game he allowed 4 pressures (8% pressure rate) 3 hurries and 1 QB hit and that's when Mahomes was getting rid of it pretty much immediately.

Wanya allowed over an 8% pressure rate in 4/10 starts at LT, so 40%. Thuney allowed over 8% pressure rate in 2/3 starts at LT or 66%.

So the only conclusion I can come up with is that neither Thuney nor Humphries should be starting at LT and it should be Morris!


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