And that makes what difference to me?

It's really a difference of opinion. And as for me, I've said EJ. That's singular. I've never said KU has multiple, lazy starters.

You think EJ hasn't been lazy.

I think EJ has been lazy.

We could do circles all night.

From your keyboard to God's ears. I'd still like to see them play a hell of a lot better... as they should do as we go along.

He is lazy, though. Call it unfocused or complacent or careless (I think Self has used these terms to describe his play this year), but it's just a different way of calling him lazy. He can and should be far better than he's played this season.

I still have confidence that he'll come through in the big games/moments like he did last season (and like he's done somewhat this season). But he needs to be better.

no, there's you saying the typically dumb ku fan thing...

then there is the objective reality that the #1 team in the country with a 19 game win streak doesn't have a 'lazy' starter...no need to even mention the fact that Self didn't become the best coach in basketball by playing 'lazy' players...

you're not just wrong, you're insulting Self...typical spoiled ku fan nonsense

He's a senior right? He better do better if he wants to be drafted.

The defense is good enough to keep them in the game against any team in the nation (except perhaps Florida...they're playing out of their minds right now). And that defense was really all they needed to make the finals last year. But sure, the offense could be better and they need to take care of the ball better. Still think that comes down to complacency, though, because they have shown the ability to score and go on runs when they absolutely need to.

he's not

he's being asked to do something he is not capable of doing...and we have no one else to do it...he is what he is, a limited 2 guard being asked to be a point guard...

when the offense ran through taylor and robinson, EJ was fine as a 3rd wheel two guard...now that he has to initiate the offense his limitations are painfully obvious

the guy was a starter on a team in the national championship game, and now the #1 team with the best defense in college..for the love of ****ing christ spare me with the 'lazy' bullshit

Probably too late for that at this point with the way he's played all year. But there's still a month or so remaining for him to turn a few heads.

Well complacency needs to stop soon. I'm the first to say "hey they're kids" but the deeper into a season you go the more adults need to come out.

I've had a lot of respect for you and your posts..but man.

You're pounding your chest because you have an opinion about a player on the #1 team in the nation. But, my opinion is wrong because I'm some fanboi who hasn't been around forever -- whatever that ****ing means.

You keep mentioning defense where I never originally mentioned anything about his ****ing defense, stupid.

He's incredibly lazy with the basketball and he makes lazy mistakes.

But, please, tell me how calling Elijah lazy insults Bill Self more too.

Numbnuts.

Bullshit. He can do it just fine. Perhaps not as well as some that have come through here, but he can manage getting through games without making 5 careless turnovers every night. The kid's an incredibly talented individual and he's shown the ability to handle difficult situations throughout his entire career.

I'm not sure why either of those things means he hasn't played lazy this year. Basketball players are lazy all the time, especially incredibly good/talented ones. Look no further than the awful stretches this KU team has had in games over the last month where the effort level wasn't there.

HEY YOU. YEAH YOU. CUT THAT SHIT OUT, FANBOI!!

I'd just like for us all to stop using "fanboi" because we aren't a bunch of f a g g o t s.

For some reason using "boi" makes me think of the Chinese.

I can assure all of you I'm 100% jew.

i just pointed out that you were wrong...and many dumb ku fanboi's share your wrong opinion...i generally hate our fanbase for this reason

it blows my mind to read all this nonsense...it is not ****ing possible to play the way Self insists that KU plays, to have the success they have, to have the best defense in college, to be undefeated in conference and be lazy....it...is....not...possible

players make mistakes, some just are limited or not that good..but lazy? at KU? please...

watch a god damn MU game...that is ****ing lazy...watch a baylor game...