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staylor26 08-17-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12372870)
If that's the case, it makes the extension even worse.

What I'm saying is, I doubt they would sign him to that extension if they didn't feel he could still play a lot on Sunday's and be effective.

DJ's left nut 08-17-2016 01:11 PM

SNR!!!!

Timbone is picking on staaaaaaylor! Make him stoooop.

Chief Northman 08-17-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12372857)
Thankfully we signed him to an extension.

Yeah, because, you know, DEE FORD IS GONNA LIGHT SHIT UP!

Whether you like it or not, Tamba is still our most dependable OLB. I could give a shit if they give him a Segway to get around the practice field. The man never takes a play off. It will be a sad day when his career is over. But until then, enjoy what he brings because players like him are few and far between....

O.city 08-17-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372875)
What I'm saying is, I doubt they would sign him to that extension if they didn't feel he could still play a lot on Sunday's and be effective.

Or more likely, with Houston missing a big chunk this year, they didn't have much other choice.

staylor26 08-17-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12372873)
Bro, to say you have an outlook full of optimism would be a huge understatement. I enjoy reading football takes, but it's hard to take yours seriously because you've got like nine pairs of the red glasses on.

There's plenty of well respected football minds that respect my football takes, because over time they've seen I know my shit. You just talk out of your ass.

TimBone 08-17-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372867)
Shut the **** up. It's a completely logical conclusion to come to.

I can't stand people like you on CP. You never have anything to really say about football, but yet you come off as you have a strong opinion or even a clue. Stick to your ****ing anti-football threads moron.

...and what in the **** is an anti-football thread?

Is there a thread here where folks are openly bashing football?

TimBone 08-17-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12372876)
SNR!!!!

Timbone is picking on staaaaaaylor! Make him stoooop.

I'll stop.

I don't want to derail the thread. It's mainly been a good read.

DaneMcCloud 08-17-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12372621)
If this is true, then it seems to point to Streater having almost certainly clinching a roster spot.

Actually, it looks kinda like the opposite, which is surprising

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...e96180652.html

Chiefs gain $4 million in cap room with Rod Streater contract adjustment


The Chiefs had a little over $3 million in cap space on Wednesday, according to the NFL Players Association, which was a sharp contrast from previous days, where the number was around negative-$900,000.

So what happened? It appears there’s been an adjustment to wide receiver Rod Streater’s contract. Streater’s cap number dropped from $4.8 million to $810,000 due to a restructure of contract’s incentives that was filed in early August.

The renegotiation created cap room because Streater’s incentives — which were for things like receiving yards, touchdowns and receptions and total $4 million — were restructured to go from being likely-to-be-earned (and thus, counting against the cap) to not-likely-to-be-earned (and thus, not counting against the cap).

It is unclear why the change occurred — the Chiefs don’t comment publicly on business matters — but the Chiefs now find themselves with an adequate amount of cap room to play with as the season draws near.

staylor26 08-17-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12372878)
Or more likely, with Houston missing a big chunk this year, they didn't have much other choice.

I don't think they pay him what they paid him if this were a legitimate concern. Sounds to me like Reid basically said what I've been thinking all along and Teicher twisted it. Tamba doesn't need practice to be effective on Sunday's, and is better off being rested.

DJ's left nut 08-17-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12372878)
Or more likely, with Houston missing a big chunk this year, they didn't have much other choice.

Exactly.

Sometimes you get lucky and someone like Jerry Hughes falls into your lap. The Bills got themselves a minor miracle when the Colts cut a young veteran loose that fit their system perfectly and came cheap.

But that doesn't happen very often. More often than not you either sign a JAG that doesn't help you or you overpay for an import that doesn't help you nearly as much as his pricetag suggests he should because there's a learning curve (and he might be an asshole).

Hali just made too much sense. You know who he is and he knows how to play here.

That said, when Dwight Freeney was out there to be had cheap, I don't know why we didn't kick the tires there. He'd have been a fantastic rotational option for us, IMO. I just wonder if the Chiefs are trying a bit too hard to hold onto some of these more limited players like Zombo and Moses (or maybe they've invested a little too heavily in young LB depth with Alexander, Nicolas, March and Wilson all in a 2 year span).

staylor26 08-17-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12372882)
...and what in the **** is an anti-football thread?

Is there a thread here where folks are openly bashing football?

You know what the **** I mean by that. This place is like 10% football discussion at best. You're here for friends and jokes and that's fine, but I'm here to talk football, and you're a clueless moron with nothing to offer in football discussion. So GET OFF MY NUTS.

Meatloaf 08-17-2016 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12372885)
Actually, it looks kinda like the opposite, which is surprising

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...e96180652.html

Chiefs gain $4 million in cap room with Rod Streater contract adjustment


The Chiefs had a little over $3 million in cap space on Wednesday, according to the NFL Players Association, which was a sharp contrast from previous days, where the number was around negative-$900,000.

So what happened? It appears there’s been an adjustment to wide receiver Rod Streater’s contract. Streater’s cap number dropped from $4.8 million to $810,000 due to a restructure of contract’s incentives that was filed in early August.

The renegotiation created cap room because Streater’s incentives — which were for things like receiving yards, touchdowns and receptions and total $4 million — were restructured to go from being likely-to-be-earned (and thus, counting against the cap) to not-likely-to-be-earned (and thus, not counting against the cap).

It is unclear why the change occurred — the Chiefs don’t comment publicly on business matters — but the Chiefs now find themselves with an adequate amount of cap room to play with as the season draws near.

Good find, Dane. Yeah, that sounds very odd, doesn't it? Wonder who decides what is likely/unlikely to be earned. Hmmmm...

DJ's left nut 08-17-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12372885)
Actually, it looks kinda like the opposite, which is surprising

They never should've been called LTBE anyway.

They're mostly 'per game' incentives as well as catch/yards incentives, IIRC. How they're classified is based on how the player played the year before.

Well Streater hardly played the year before and the NFL isn't supposed to consider why in that calculus. He only played 1 game so by the general rule, only 1 game worth of game incentives should've been considered LBTE. And as he had 1 catch for 8 yards, none of the catch/yard incentives should've been considered LBTE.

To me this is just righting a wrong, not actually changing much. I mentioned it the first time I noticed his cap figure; it never made sense for those to be called likely to be earned based on any rule I could find.

It won't have any bearing on his roster status. If he were cut, all those LBTE incentives would fall off anyway. So this doesn't do anything to grease the skids on cutting him.

Meatloaf 08-17-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12372897)
They never should've been called LTBE anyway.

They're mostly 'per game' incentives as well as catch/yards incentives, IIRC. How they're classified is based on how the player played the year before.

Well Streater hardly played the year before and the NFL isn't supposed to consider why in that calculus. He only played 1 game so by the general rule, only 1 game worth of game incentives should've been considered LBTE. And as he had 1 catch for 8 yards, none of the catch/yard incentives should've been considered LBTE.

To me this is just righting a wrong, not actually changing much. I mentioned it the first time I noticed his cap figure; it never made sense for those to be called likely to be earned based on any rule I could find.

Thanks for the clarification, nut.

O.city 08-17-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12372886)
I don't think they pay him what they paid him if this were a legitimate concern. Sounds to me like Reid basically said what I've been thinking all along and Teicher twisted it. Tamba doesn't need practice to be effective on Sunday's, and is better off being rested.

He can't practice because of his knees. I dint know how that isn't a concern


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