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Ultra Peanut 08-08-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4902405)
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/ba...page=age27myth

Suffice to say, from the chart above, it's clear a player's prime runs about six or seven years, from ages 26 through 32.

Which is where the entire starting lineup outside of Edmonds and DeRosa happens to fit?

Obviously, they're going to be declining by 2010. That's why having such a strong team this year is so nice.

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4902353)
Soriano is 32, Fukudome is in his thirties, as are Ramirez, Lee, DeRosa, Theriot is 29.

Your team is aging in dog years and you're set?? ROFL ROFL

Let's not forget that Harden is made of glass, Lilly is 32, Dempster is 31 and has never done this before, and Marquis is trash.

You better savor this year because you guys are going to need a massive rebuild and soon.

32 is young in baseball...if they were all 37 then I'd be worried...

So the Cubs have 5-8 years before they need to worry about having a "rich" farm system...

Oh my, what are they going to do?!

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4902360)
Once again, Howry plays win vulture. Amazing.

It's almost like... these guys are in their primes?!?!?!??!

30-35 is baseball prime for most players.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-08-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4902411)
Which is where the entire starting lineup outside of Edmonds and DeRosa happens to fit?

Obviously, they're going to be declining by 2010. That's why having such a strong team this year is so nice.

Or 2009. I'm sure Hootie is right though, and Felix Pie will be the Ansa.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-08-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 4902436)
30-35 is baseball prime for most players.

No, it's 26-32.

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4902380)
Yep I am a fair weather fan because I didn't want to spend 4-5 innings arguing about Soriano's arm.

and on SportsCenter when they show him gun the guy at the plate they talk about how strong his arm is ROFL

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4902383)
Someone please let Lance Berkman, Pat Burrell, Milton Bradley, Chase Utley, Alex Rodriguez, Jason Bay, Chipper Jones, and J.D. Drew know that they're supposed to start sucking any time now.

Exactly...

30-35 is prime years...you figure out a routine, you figure out pitching, etc...

Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Fukodome, Theriot...they aren't going anywhere for the next 5-8 years.

And the Cubs can buy talent just like anyone else.

A farm system is nice, but have fun with all of those young guys and being in 3rd place for the next half decade.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-08-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 4902446)
Exactly...

30-35 is prime years...you figure out a routine, you figure out pitching, etc...

Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Fukodome, Theriot...they aren't going anywhere for the next 5-8 years.

And the Cubs can buy talent just like anyone else.

A farm system is nice, but have fun with all of those young guys and being in 3rd place for the next half decade.

Then please, explain this, 'tard.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/ba...page=age27myth

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4902397)
JD Drew does suck.

A-Rod is having a down year, Jones can't stay off the DL, Berkman has slowed way down in the last two months and probably won't match his power numbers from last year despite a better lineup.

Utley, Bradley, and Burrell are all having career years. Funny how that tends to happen right before you decline.

C'mon, Peanut.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Jones was hitting .400 for most of the season...ARod got hurt for the first time in his career...Berkman is having another typical Berkman year...if you think players start declining at 32 you are insane.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL HAMAS JENKINS LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4902438)
No, it's 26-32.

maybe for the typical Reed Johnson type player...

but the Cubs have SUPERSTARS...

Derrek Lee, superstar.
Aramis Ramirez, superstar.
Alfonso Soriano, superstar.

These guys will be producing into their late thirties.

And their pitching is rock solid...

AND

unlock the Cardinals...

They are always buyers in the offseason.

You are insane if you prefer the state of your organization over the state of the Cubs organization...

They are STACKED.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-08-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 4902461)
maybe for the typical Reed Johnson type player...

but the Cubs have SUPERSTARS...

Derrek Lee, superstar.
Aramis Ramirez, superstar.
Alfonso Soriano, superstar.

These guys will be producing into their late thirties.

And their pitching is rock solid...

AND

unlock the Cardinals...

They are always buyers in the offseason.

You are insane if you prefer the state of your organization over the state of the Cubs organization...

They are STACKED.

Funny, how that article shows the top 100 homerun hitters of the last decade, and shows when they hit their peak # of HR's as well as their best AVG. and OPS years, and 87% of them came before 33.

Wouldn't those people be your superstars?

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:16 PM

Big Z, Harden, Dempster, Lilly...

Or

Carpenter, Lohse, Looper, Wellemeyer

LMAO

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4902465)
Funny, how that article shows the top 100 homerun hitters of the last decade, and shows when they hit their peak # of HR's as well as their best AVG. and OPS years, and 87% of them came before 33.

Wouldn't those people be your superstars?

So instead of Lee hitting 35 HR's at age 35, he'll hit 28...

Oh no!

and besides, Pujols is at least 35...so he should be slowing down pretty soon.

Ultra Peanut 08-08-2008 04:19 PM

Hamas? You're arguing with Hootie again.

Just thought you should know that.

Hootie 08-08-2008 04:21 PM

and besides, that article is pretty fucking misleading...and dumb.

Ok, a guy hits him prime when he's 27 and slows down at...wait, it doesn't show them slowing down because they scale everything to 600 AB's...

That was reeruned after I went back and really looked at it...

Tristin is a homo, anyways.


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