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Mecca 09-24-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5051242)
OU still runs that shotgun spread the field way out thing right? That would have me a bit leery because you'd have a lot more space to throw into etc...

Yea you see alot of that, it's not as gimmicky as the spread but it's not pro style either, it's kinda in the middle.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 09:24 PM

I value a brain on a quarterback more than I do his body. Its been the main reason why a guy like Romo or Hasselback makes it in the league and an Akili Smith or Todd Marinovich falter. I think you are getting a little too worked up on Stafford's body. He is only 6'3, its not like he is 6'5 or 6'6. He does have a hell of an arm though.

DaKCMan AP 09-24-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5051168)
I'm 99% sure if he played for Georgia and Stafford played for OU or Texas this debate would be switched, there's serious big 12 attachment around here.

This.

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5051247)
Um Ryan is a bit limited too.....I don't even think Bradford is comparable to Ryan right now, he has to get bigger and show he can make NFL throws. Hell I even think Ryan has a better arm than Bradford does, I say he's limited in his arm strength.

Kind of like Manning, Brady, and Steve Young arm strength limited? I can live with that.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5051253)
I value a brain on a quarterback more than I do his body. Its been the main reason why a guy like Romo or Hasselback makes it in the league and an Akili Smith or Todd Marinovich falter. I think you are getting a little too worked up on Stafford's body. He is only 6'3, its not like he is 6'5 or 6'6. He does have a hell of an arm though.

I honestly question if Bradford can make NFL throws, he has a quick release and good footwork but he gets to throw to alot of guys running free with giant gaps of separation, you don't see that in the NFL.

With Stafford I see, 6'3, 235, huge arm, good mobility, playing without NFL caliber WR's aside from Green for this year as a true freshman. In a tough conference..there's alot about Stafford to say he's being set up well...

Not to mention he has been starting since his true freshman year at that program, and will have 35 starts at the end of this year.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5051255)
Kind of like Manning, Brady, and Steve Young arm strength limited? I can live with that.

His arm is in no way comparable to Youngs....or even Mannings. Brady and Manning don't have rockets I think Ryan is comparable to them I think Bradford is below that level, now if he gains weight his arm may strengthen some that is possible.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 09:30 PM

I think you are putting way to much stock in Stafford's arm. Now its a cannon I will admit that.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5051268)
I think you are putting way to much stock in Stafford's arm. Now its a cannon I will admit that.

The arm has to be there.....you can't use a top pick on a guy with a peashooter.

Every thing I've ever seen of Bradford gives me a couple of huge questions. Can he make NFL throws, like the 20 yard deep out. Can he put the ball on a line in the window it has to be in to get it by the defenders, can he fit the ball into a guy who only has slight separation. I haven't seen any of that, I've seen huge stats with him throwing to guys with huge separation and him just throwing it up to them.

Stafford on the other hand I've seen him make all those throws.

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 09:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf...%3Cparam&hl=en


Courtesy of MIAdragon, he looks like he has a sufficient arm to me

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5051274)
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf...%3Cparam&hl=en


Courtesy of MIAdragon, he looks like he has a sufficient arm to me

I've watched this video, it's on the first page of this thread...where is he making any NFL throws, 95% of the stuff is him throwing to guys that have a full body length of separation of not more.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 09:41 PM

For Oklahoma having as good of line that have he sure he got hit alot. Made some big plays while getting nailed as well.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5051290)
For Oklahoma having as good of line that have he sure he got hit alot. Made some big plays while getting nailed as well.

I think you should watch all those videos I posted and tell me which guy makes more NFL throws.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 09:55 PM

I've never questioned Stafford's arm one bit. Stafford has this month to prove how good a QB he really is. Starting with Bama this week and ending with Florida in the Cocktail Party. If Georgia is undefeated through this stretch my opinion might change of Stafford.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5051186)
at #1 overall he has to be, and Bradford is the closest thing out their to a truly polished prospect.BTW, how does Mustain look the Arkansas transfer, now that's a kid that intrigues me a couple years down the road.

Mustain isn't even the 2nd QB on the SC depth chart and with #1 recruit Matt Barkley committed he may never even play.

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5051365)
Mustain isn't even the 2nd QB on the SC depth chart and with #1 recruit Matt Barkley committed he may never even play.

interesting, I thought I read that there was a heated QB competition between him and Sanchez which came down to the wire.


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