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OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477567)
Tyler Thigpen had numerous chances to make a play and win a game at the end, he failed every time.

But, he had a bad OL, and the playcalling was bad, and the QB coach is an idiot, and....

SAUTO 02-10-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477566)
I can't believe I'm actually watching people say that running the spread helps your OL when it leaves them unprotected..

Is this bizarro world?

It's one of the reasons I have serious questions about a guy like Jason Smith being rated so high as an OT, yes he's athletic, yes he can pass block but he literally never lines up with his hand on the ground and has very little experience run blocking or drive blocking.

how many sacks did oklahoma give up this year? would you want to draft their LT in the first round? 2 nd?

doomy3 02-10-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477566)
I can't believe I'm actually watching people say that running the spread helps your OL when it leaves them unprotected..

Is this bizarro world?

It's one of the reasons I have serious questions about a guy like Jason Smith being rated so high as an OT, yes he's athletic, yes he can pass block but he literally never lines up with his hand on the ground and has very little experience run blocking or drive blocking.


:spock:

So, what you're saying is that Jason Smith looked like a better OT than he was because he was in a spread offense?

SAUTO 02-10-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477575)
:spock:

So, what you're saying is that Jason Smith looked like a better OT than he was because he was in a spread offense?

yes exactly. but it doesnt help the oline:rolleyes:

Mecca 02-10-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477575)
:spock:

So, what you're saying is that Jason Smith looked like a better OT than he was because he was in a spread offense?

No I'm telling you he has very little experience doing something that NFL teams will expect him to do.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477570)
I apologize. I shouldn't have taken that out on you.

I'm doing all the dirty work here, pulling up stats, and I'm basically being called a liar.

Forgive me for being short with you, it should have been directed at the source.

who has called you a liar?

Mecca 02-10-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477577)
yes exactly. but it doesnt help the oline:rolleyes:

....You guys have bad reading comprehension skills.

Shaid 02-10-2009 07:10 PM

I'm not going to read this whole thing so sorry if I repost something. At this point I think Thigpen is servicable. He might be able to develop into something more but I just don't see him becoming a true Franchise QB. I don't really have too much of a problem if we spend another year with him.
With that said, I do like Sanchez. I haven't seen a enough of him to really give a good opinion but his demeanor on the field, some of the throws I've seen, etc. just make me think he could be something special. You have to understand that it is tough for people to want to gamble a #3 pick on a guy with so little starting experience so it's pretty easy to side with Thigpen for another year when you can see some of the success he's had with an awful coach like Herm at the helm.

doomy3 02-10-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477572)
But, he had a bad OL, and the playcalling was bad, and the QB coach is an idiot, and....

...he still moved the ball and made us look like we actually had some chance of scoring a touchdown.

Mecca 02-10-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477573)
how many sacks did oklahoma give up this year? would you want to draft their LT in the first round? 2 nd?

I wouldn't want their lineman because they are slow...they get away with that in the Big 12 against all the shitty defenses but Florida's defense absolutely exposed that entire offense as slow.

Just Passin' By 02-10-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477572)
But, he had a bad OL, and the playcalling was bad, and the QB coach is an idiot, and....

Which one of those isn't true?

Brock 02-10-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477583)
...he still moved the ball and made us look like we actually had some chance of scoring a touchdown.

Until they hit the red zone.

doomy3 02-10-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477578)
No I'm telling you he has very little experience doing something that NFL teams will expect him to do.

But how can you argue that he looked better as a tackle because he was playing in a spread. It's what you just said. Same could be said for Loadholt, etc.

Mecca 02-10-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477583)
...he still moved the ball and made us look like we actually had some chance of scoring a touchdown.

If he could have put up decent 2nd halfs at all they'd have won some more games...

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477563)
did their defense suck? no it had a bad half. our defense sucked all game long in every playoff game TG played in

:spock:

IIRC, (I was there) we held Peyton and Company to NINE points in the 1st half in 2006. Only giving up 23 for the game was a miracle, considering the defense was on the field the entire game.

We held Denver to 14 points in 1997.

You can bitch about the Indy home game, and that's it.


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