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Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=227117)

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708046)

Gruden compared him to Ronde Barber and said he'd watched him since high school.

If that's the case, I'll take it.

Out of your list, only Washington appeals to me. And FTR, I don't think he's a "slot project". This isn't rocket science, it's football. The dude should be fine.

Ask the Ole Miss fan who's sucking him off how many times McCluster lined up in the slot and ran a route.

Then come back and tell me the kid should walk right in, at the position known for being the hardest to adjust to from college to the pros - when he's never played it - and "be fine."

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708046)

Gruden compared him to Ronde Barber and said he'd watched him since high school.

He also pimped Tim Tie-bow and drafted the $#it-tastic-nasty that's put Tampa in the QB mess they have now.

And he's supposed to be a QB Guru...

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708052)

The draft is about matching need with value, the best drafting teams consistently do this. You don't reach for need or overvalue guys you don't need.

This is not difficult to understand, yet it seems to be for some.

And yet, the draft isn't a science nor are there any absolutes

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6708056)

Ask the Ole Miss fan who's sucking him off

Dude, don't be a mother****er.

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6708055)

no, we're pointing out what terrible ****ing value they are.....but no one wants to read the ****ing words

we had top 5 picks in every round and passed over pass rushers, lbs, and nts for nickel cbs, injured te, and a hb that will be converted to wr....

This...

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6707994)

lbs are more important than nickel cbs, especially in a 3-4, and especially in te 2nd round, and especially when you DRAFTED A CB LAST YEAR

Nickel CBs are extremely important in any defense, with offenses moving to 3 to 5 receiver sets. Washington was a horrendous pick last year. He's not the answer. If Arenas is a solid nickel back, it's an important need at some point. There's no way in ****ing hell you can beat a team like New England or Indy in the future playoffs when they have slot receivers that stomp all over Donald Washington all game long

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same for TEs...WHICH WE DRAFTED LAST YEAR

Charlie Weis runs a ton of 2-TE sets and values TEs quite a bit. And he likes TEs with the versatility to block and receive, so he can be deceptive in his sets.

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guess what we didn't draft? either year?

LB
NT

you can't just pretend everything is equal, because it isn't true

bad choices have long term consequences...that is why we have sucked for years and years and years...

Not drafting a Nose Tackle surprises me. But again, you draft the guy you think is BPA. You don't draft a guy because he's there. A lot of scouts seemed to really dislike Cody. You have guys like Sergio Kindle who dropped b/c of concerns about microfractures in his leg. And you have no idea what these coaches value. Charlie Weis builds his entire offense around versatility. Go ahead and look up any site about how he runs his offense. When I heard we hired Weis, I knew Sproles was about as dangerous of a weapon they could find and I think there's definitely potential for McCluster to play a similar role. If he's returning kicks, lining up on 3rd downs, lining up on 4-5 receiver sets, and getting a carry or two, the guy's going to be a full-time player playing specialized roles.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708054)

Then I assume you're unhappy with Carr and Flowers? Because, he's the same size as those guys.

If you're upset they didn't draft a "big" CB, the kind that Gunther preferred, I'd get that.

But if you're upset they drafted the most dynamic returner in the country that also doubles as a damn good CB, I'd offer that your anger is misguided.

We'll agree to disagree on this, but I'm pretty sure that I'm going to be proven right about Arenas. I think he's obviously a great returner but I think he's a middling CB prospect at the pro level.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708059)

And yet, the draft isn't a science nor are there any absolutes

Is there anyway to bold and make this larger this so it breaks through some people's computer screens.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6708056)

Ask the Ole Miss fan who's sucking him off how many times McCluster lined up in the slot and ran a route.

damnit if you aren't the epitome of the angry message board butthead. jesus. you don't have to insult me.

Explain to me why Arenas was featured on the draft coverage...in the other players draft highlights constantly being beat like a drum.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6708059)

And yet, the draft isn't a science nor are there any absolutes

You, of all people, pick now to be vague and blindly optimistic?...

:spock:

We get it Zach you're above it, now you can passive aggressive yourself out the ****.

You can say Ass. Shit. ****. Bitch on this board. It's not middle school.

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6708057)

He also pimped Tim Tie-bow and drafted the $#it-tastic-nasty that's put Tampa in the QB mess they have now.

And he's supposed to be a QB Guru...

And as for the Barber comparison, he did coach him AND saw Arenas play in high school in Tampa. You can take that as a negative if you'd like but I'd prefer to go the opposite direction until proven otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6708068)

We get it Zach you're above it, now you can passive aggressive yourself out the ****.

If you can drone on with the same bullshit all day I am allowed to as well. That wasn't even an I am above it post.