4 years tho? people really don't count that 10-6 season? You are right though, I remember back in 08-09 when Pioli got signed..I felt like this team was going to be a playoff team because of what Pioli did with Belichick in NE. So far, it looks like its gotten worse then better. I know I wasn't posting here in the off season, but boy was I wrong..I had the chiefs winning the afc west and going deep in the playoffs, I felt like our D was too stacked and that our offense would unleash. I've never been more wrong in my life. I must have been a prisoner of the moment after the packers and broncs game. I also used chiefs way too much in madden and was handing out spankings left and right, on paper this team looks good, we just can't execute. Pioli's to blame for that but I put more blame on Pioli for making Crennel the head coach then anything.

In Carl's first 4 years he drafted 3 HOF players.

In Pioli's first four years he hasn't drafted 2 pro-bowl players.

Keep in mind that Carl was fired for a reason...

The guy. Is personnel man of ravens Eric decosta you want a young hungry gm ready for the job it's him. Yes there is the fear that ozzie new some is the only reason ravens have success. But decosta has been in charge of the drafts. Would he bold enough to get the franchise qb he did it with flaco. This is guy much like the falcons gm was out of new England hungry and ready. He was our second choice next to pioli let's correct our original mistake.


Fire pioli and hire decosta during the bye like I said Clark already interviewed the guy. Let him evaluate this team rest of the season who to keep and who to get rid of. Let him have time to get a list of potential front office and coaches together. That time when the draft comes we hit the ground running. I disagree with the ones here who don't want a rookie qb. The situation a rookie would be walking into would be ideal. A young emerging team hungry for a leader. Though our d isn't as great as the steelers it would be similar to big ben's rookie year.

This is just my two cents

Derrick Thomas, Will Shields,....and who's the 3rd? You have Tony Gonzalez but that wasn't until 1997

Again, I stand corrected.

Only 2 HOF players in his first 4 years.

And then 2 probowl (Okoye, Kneel Smith) players...

Eric DeCosta has been a part of the Ravens organization since the beginning. A graduate of the Ravens’ “20/20 Club” (includes members of the team’s personnel staff who started with the Ravens as young assistants and grew into evaluators with more input), DeCosta joined the franchise in an entry-level position in 1996. He moved up the personnel ranks, first as an area scout, then as director of college scouting (six years) and director of player personnel (three years) before his most recent promotion to assistant general manager (2012). DeCosta assists GM Ozzie Newsome in overseeing both the college scouting and pro personnel departments. The Taunton, MA, native was honored in 2005 by The Sporting News as one of the top young stars in sports and was selected to both the 2008 Baltimore Business Journal and Baltimore Magazine “40 under 40” group. He also served on the eight-member committee to interview and select Ravens head coach John Harbaugh in 2008.
During DeCosta’s tenure as scouting director, the Ravens drafted Pro Bowlers LB Terrell Suggs (’03), DT Haloti Ngata (’06), G Ben Grubbs (’07), FB Le’Ron McClain (’07), G Marshal Yanda (‘07) and RB Ray Rice (‘08) and a number of other key contributors, including OLB Jarret Johnson (’03), C Jason Brown (’05), T Jared Gaither (’07 Supplemental Draft) and QB Joe Flacco (’08).

Good question.

Plus, Shields was drafted in 93, which would have been Carl's 5th draft.

Carl did draft 3 HoF players in 9 drafts.

Not too bad, I Suppose.

Pioli has tempered my hate for him.

Pioli makes him look exemplary...

How can Scott win in Tampa when he doesn't play?
Sounds more like something you tell the coach or starting QB.

What about the extension rumor? Two exact opposites, which one are we to believe?

What part of the year did the Bears hire Phil Emery? I can't remember.

I call BS. The only one firing Scott is Clark and its not like he is walking around blabbing it.

Like 2-3 months before the draft.

Clark should re-hire Kuharich. **** you, Scott!

No wonder Cassel was ruled out for the game...